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CodeCon: A Conference for P2P Hackers

Rolig liten hattgubbe writes: "infoAnarchy has the scoop about Codecon, which is an interesting P2P-themed hacker conference in San Francisco (Feb 15-17) at JWZ's DNA Lounge. Some of the next-generation projects discussed are already functional, and a demo of Peek-A-Booty is going to be presented. I wonder if anyone will be arrested?"

45 comments

  1. Larry Ellison by mwalker · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ellison to me is just a Bill Gates who never got the chance. He doesn't want Microsoft toppled as a monopoly because Microsoft is bad for consumers; he wants Microsoft toppled so he can treat consumers badly and profit from it. He's just a less successful version of Bill Gates in my mind.

    FUD like this "unbreakable" business just proves that he's cut from the same mold. What's truly sad is that our society selects people like Ellison and Gates as leaders because ruthlessness is a competitive advantage - and I mean "selects" in the evolutionary sense.

    Oracle: the unbreakable national ID card. The whole idea gives me chills.

  2. metallica by jamesidm · · Score: 5, Funny

    as a mark of respect for those who made p2p the big thing that it is today, all files transferred at the conference should be metallica music and/or videos.

    1. Re:metallica by zcat_NZ · · Score: 1
      .. did you forget about Dre?!

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    2. Re:metallica by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no he's just acting like he forgot about dre....

    3. Re:metallica by morbid · · Score: 0

      I didn't realise there were that many coders into Country and Western.

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  3. streaming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    why do they have to meet in real life?
    they could just trade divx of the key speeches! :D

    bnorted!

    slashdot conspiracy? :

  4. It's about time by RC514 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's really time to get rid of central authority technically, because it has been proven to be impossible to achieve freedom of expression by economic and political means. He who owns the press has freedom of the press. After September 11th everyone who even thinks about not swimming in the political mainstream is marked as potential terrorist.

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  5. What about walk-p2p? by redcliffe · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've discovered that the cheapest form of Peer to peer file sharing in Australia is loading the files your friends want on a CD-RW, take the CD to them, and then blank it and put the files you want from your friend's computer before taking it home. Depending on how far you live from your friend's place, and how you get there, it costs between $0.10 and $1.00 AUD per gigabyte. Much cheaper than Pacific internet ADSL at $139 a gig, or Telstra ADSL at $198 a gig.

    1. Re:What about walk-p2p? by zcat_NZ · · Score: 1
      And much faster that capped ADSL. 650M takes basically a whole day at 128Kbps, It's much easier to burn a CD and mail it; total cost about $2 which is about what ADSL costs anyway. If you burn a bunch of CD's at a time it's even better value!

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    2. Re:What about walk-p2p? by Kirruth · · Score: 1
      Hehe, using CD-RWs to exchange files instead of using a network is what we used to call "DHL-net", back in the day. I personally use that method far more often to exchange, er, data files with my friends in Australia than P2P.

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    3. Re:What about walk-p2p? by tundog · · Score: 0

      Does that mean you have to pay for bandwidth in Australia?!?!?! No flat rate deals?

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    4. Re:What about walk-p2p? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's called "Sneaker-Net". At least that's the term that everyone has used in every computer group I have been in... and in college.

    5. Re:What about walk-p2p? by rhost89 · · Score: 1

      Woohoo, all hail sneakernet on steroids :9

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    6. Re:What about walk-p2p? by squaretorus · · Score: 2

      Or string-can p2p! Attach your modem to a bit of wet string pulled taught between you and your friends PCs! Transfer rates are slow but free!

      For additional bandwidth use rope!

    7. Re:What about walk-p2p? by slashdot.org · · Score: 1

      You mean a p2p walk-about?

    8. Re:What about walk-p2p? by redcliffe · · Score: 1

      Yep. The reason for this is that all the links out of Australia are pay for bandwidth, so it costs the ISP's heaps.

  6. Arrested? by ImaLamer · · Score: 2

    Naw... they won't be arrested, they are citizens. They will be asked to sit in front of congress while congress acts like they care.

    [think napster]

    1. Re:Arrested? by RC514 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Even better. The good ones (you know, the ones who could actually make p2p work) will be hired by big business and subsequently forget why they got into the game in the first place.

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    2. Re:Arrested? by ImaLamer · · Score: 2

      You're right, and then they'll make millions off of breaking copyrights.

      P2P is great, but no one should make money off of it.

    3. Re:Arrested? by ImaLamer · · Score: 1

      What?

      Oh, you are... i caught the bait

    4. Re:Arrested? by Don+Negro · · Score: 2

      I doubt that'll happen to Brandon; if it does, I'll invite him over for a long weekend and brainwash him.

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    5. Re:Arrested? by Tessera · · Score: 1

      I don't know much at all about this, but from what I've seen making money isn't the point. Most P2P proponents are against the record companies making ludicrous amounts of money off of the artists' work, (those that don't just want FREE MP3!!11!) but you think they'd try to make money off it? We got a taste of free music sharing with Napster, we're not going to go back to paying. We won't pay the record companies, but we aren't going to pay for P2P either. If people try to charge, someone will come out with a free version, and the fee-driven people will get screwed over. [Using we to mean the community in general, not /.ers or just me.]

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  7. DNA Lounge is a COOL venue... by Tsar · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What with all the Internet kiosks and all. Jamie's input alone will make this a hypercool event. Plus, everything that goes over the Lounge's sound system is streamed live to the Internet. Does that include CodeCon, I wonder?

    Still, it's too bad it couldn't have been held in JWZ's old Tent of Doom (essentially a cubicle wrapped in 500' of camo netting to ward off the ST:TNG theme of the Netscape office decor). I know it's ancient history now, but his TOD page was an inspiration to cubicle-dwellers everywhere, when it was up. Like the once-bright promise of Netscape, it will be missed.

    1. Re:DNA Lounge is a COOL venue... by mistered · · Score: 1

      Of course, the Tent of Doom page lives on at jwz.org.

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  8. Sounds a bit like HAL by imrdkl · · Score: 2, Informative
    The HAL conference in the Netherlands recently seemed to have a similar agenda, although the focus seemed broader there. I am surprized and pleased to see such a forum in the US, even if I cant go.

    The BOFs and after-hour discussions are perhaps deeper and more insightful in Holland, or at least, it seems that way...

  9. Announcing CRAP by Marcus+Brody · · Score: 0, Informative

    "I can see this festering if there isnt a legitimate thread on it soon." -- as seen on /.

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  10. I wonder if by FudgePackinJesus · · Score: 1

    PureFiction is coordinating this convention. There seems to be a mentions of Alpine. There was a story about it before with threads containing a little history of PureFiction.

    Some would call it "shameless self promotion".

    I'd just call it being stoked about what you're doing

    1. Re:I wonder if by Wesley+Felter · · Score: 2

      Bram Cohen is coordinating it. PureFiction/coderman will be there, though.

  11. Less Hacks, More Science by notfancy · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I've read the Chord technical note. After ten or so pages of generic blurb, it struck me as perfectly obvious: binary search on doubly-linked circular lists! But unfortunately, it seems that simple and workable solutions can only be found when everything else has been discarded, an excercise that CS people seem better suited at.

    The Chord protocol is not perfect; its more obvious omission is the lack of a large-scale implementation to prove its viability. But I think it's a step in the right direction, involving people with massively-parallell computing background that I think its very relevant to the P2P infrastructure.

    In the end, P2P seems to be no more than the implementation of a distributed keyed store on a high-latence, low-bandwidth, high-failure-rate massively parallell supercomputer.

  12. Tent of doom working link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  13. dna loung by Jonny+Ringo · · Score: 0

    I just don't think this hacker convention will be as fun as some other dna events NAUGHTY CHRISTMAS

    Seriously, I think its cool that they are not even going to bother with Digital Right Mangement and the hole political aspect of p2p. Just concentrate on the programs and users.

  14. Peek-a-booty by startled · · Score: 2

    "a demo of Peek-A-Booty is going to be presented." Yeah, I'll believe that when Duke Nukem Forever ships.

    1. Re:Peek-a-booty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HA ha heheheheh hrem *cough* yeas. What ever happened to those brave souls at cDc anyway? They used to be so very _regular_ with their products.

    2. Re:Peek-a-booty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      wasn't it originally set to debut at the last DEFCON? Or was it earlier?

      I heard that they were not quite confident enough in its security to release it and let people in countries like China use it, where they would most likely be put in a prison labor camp or killed if the software was cracked or a user were able to be traced.

      It will be a wonderful service if it comes out, but many people will die if the PRC succeeds in cracking it.