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Black Holes Disputed

JScarpace writes: "Researchers at the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico and at the University of South Carolina in Columbia have proposed the existence of "gravastars" which are bubbles of superdense matter. If they are correct, the idea of a black hole with a singularity at the center may be just a fantasy."

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  1. But if there are no black holes... by Oroborus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Where do all my left socks go from the dryer?

    1. Re:But if there are no black holes... by gumleef · · Score: 2, Funny

      they mutate into coathangars... just look in your wardrobe

  2. Re:gravastar? by nomadic · · Score: 5, Funny

    Fine, I shall rename them.

    From now on they will be referred to as Doom Spheres.

  3. Re:Mathematical models were based on... by lightfoot+jim · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm glad to see that the anti-MS sentiment is applicable to the science of astronomy. I'd be so disappointed if this kind of thinking was only relevant in the limited context of the software industry.

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  4. Re:no singularity... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    U can go faster than light, u just have to have been going faster than light ur entire existance (u cannot accelerate from c )

  5. Re:You can still get sucked in by scottgfx · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ahhh, that explains Slashdot then.

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  6. "the first time that Einstein's dazzling" by Tibe · · Score: 2, Funny

    Two U.S. scientists have questioned the existence of black holes both seem to be superdense not that this matters. The theroy is currently only supported by a springy, weird space the pair cannot explain. So far, however, physicists have mixed feelings about the idea of gravastars. Their verdicts range from "outstandingly brilliant" to "unlikely." as we can see this 'outstandingly brilliant' is obviously 'unlikely' due to the fact that The gravity near one of these objects would be so strong that nothing -- not even photons [light] -- could escape its grasp. However, The exact nature of the exotic stuff inside the gravastar shell is still open to debate, as any man and his dog's guess can be supported maybe there'll no longer be any need for black holes -- maybe they really are pure fantasy. To the dismay of Sci Fi writers arround the globe.
    Source: Old Scientist

  7. Hot Off the Presses! by loraksus · · Score: 3, Funny
    Roy-Ter's News Service

    SEATTLE - Bill Gates, richest man in the world, announced late Friday evening, that in keeping with his company's new policy of "Discover Your World" he would be putting 30 billion dollars into funding a trip to the far reaches of outer space to finally put an answer to the question, " What is a black hole?"
    "We must strive to stretch our horizons" Mr. Gates said while unveiling a mock up spacecraft. "The Qube is singularly revolutionary - it is controlled via neural networks which interface between the ship with these nifty lasers that go over one eye."
    However skeptics maintain that information will not be able to travel back from the ship even if it does collect scientific data about the nature of black holes. Microsoft, however, seems unfazed; "We realize at the current time, that issue may cause us problems, though we aren't worried - we work best under deadlines - take our release of windows 97 . . . well that's a bad example, umm. . . Microsoft has a great team that helps us get out of tight situations - take the DOJ trials - no one expected us to come out of that scot-free."
    Top Enron executives also expressed interest in coming along for the trip, and plan on funding their portion selling Enron Ethics Handbooks on Ebay , with a source close to the vice president mentioning that "Anyplace would be better than here when our employees find us." - a view shared by Garth Wayne Johnson, Ken Lay's future cellmate in New York's "Ban Gurahz" prison, "Ah no dat da eron beetches ah gonna be ah hoes, so dey nee' packtis an' shit!"


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  8. Cosmic junk food by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    "...gravastars are cold, dense shells supported by a springy, weird space inside."

    Black holes are really Moon Pies?

  9. Re:Your own reference seems to contradict you by SecretAsianMan · · Score: 2, Funny
    scroll down to the bottom of the page, to see what happens when the angle of attack becomes too big. Yes, the upper and the lower flow no longer meet.
    Yeah, but at that point, the airfoil is no longer generating lift, and the plane stalls. That seems to reaffirm the aerodynamics engineer's statements.

    Also, think for a moment that you (YANAAE) are disputing the word of an aerodynamics engineer who works with this stuff every day. That's like disputing Alan Cox's idea of how the Linux kernel works.
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  10. We've already proved the existence of black holes by guttentag · · Score: 4, Funny

    A famous former surgeon general discovered the first of these monsters a few years ago, and named it drkoop.com (the .com designation is often used to help identify black holes). Then there was altavista.com, webvan.com, and many others. The escape velocity exceeds the speed of VC money. Since nothing can go faster than VC money... Enron, by the way, is not a black hole. It's a pulsar -- a dead star that regularly flashes us with reminders that it's dead ("Enron doesn't have any money," "Enron doesn't have any money," Enron doesn't have any money," etc.).