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Linus Does Not Scale

EmilEifrem writes: "Seems like everybody's getting more and more frustrated by Linus' (in-) ability to handle patches. Rob Landley just wrote an "RFC on Penguin Patch Management" wherein he proposes a "Penguin Patch Lieutenant" system that he believes would scale better. The full discussion can be found on the Linux kernel mailing list. Linus seems to dislike it, as usual, source code maintenance tools/organization are for wimps!, but a lot of others find it a good idea. Anyway, it's a very good read."

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  1. Endowments. by saintlupus · · Score: 3, Flamebait

    Linus seems to dislike it, as usual, source code maintenance tools/organization are for wimps!

    This attitude seems pretty common, even to me, and I don't run Linux. Linus takes a lot of flack for his methods of running the kernel development, mostly from people who think that they have a better way.

    Try to remember something. It's his baby. It's his kernel. He doesn't owe you a goddamned thing. And if you've got a better way, start your own Unix style OS project.

    (Reminds me of the book _The Moon is a Harsh Mistress_ -- after the Revolution on the moon is complete, then all of the armchair politicos come out of the woodwork to say how it should be. The analogy to the current situation is an exercise left for the reader.)

    --saint

  2. Monolithic! Duh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Of course it doesn't scale; it's a monolithic OS. Hopefully, someone will fork it and bust it into bite-size microkernelish pieces. Or, better yet, kernel developers will migrate to HURD.

  3. jealousy rears its ugly head by maxpublic · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Amazing how many jealous little twits pop out of the woodwork when articles like these come along (including the author, it seems). You know the kind - they go on and on about how "Linux is bigger than Linus", or that "democracy is better than autocracy", or some such rot. None of these 'arguments' are more than nebulous, poorly-defined horseshit without so much as a smidgeon of hard evidence to back them up, but that doesn't stop the fools from spouting page after page of useless rhetoric.

    What does it really boil down to? The complainers aren't Linus - that's the sum total of the argument. Linus is famous, Linus is respected, Linus approaches the status of a demigod in the eyes of a few - and the complainers are nobodies who'll never reach anything like this stature during the course of their lifetime. Envy galls them, so they do their best to try to pull down the guy who's exceeded everything they might ever hope to accomplish, all before the age of 40. Same shit, different venue.

    What really points out these losers as vicious, jealous little maggots is Linux itself - they aren't in any way required to use it so they can, if they're so dissatisfied with the way Linus runs things, go off and use another OS. Or fork Linux. It's all good. And if they were serious about their unrest they would.

    But that's not the *real* point, eh? The actual goal is to pull down Linus based on the age-old preschool argument "if I can't be Linus, then neither can Linus".

    Transparent, pathetic assholes.

    Max

    --
    My god carries a hammer. Your god died nailed to a tree. Any questions?
  4. Beginning of the End by pcs305 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    And so the end begins. Finally the whole Linux mess will come to a deserving halt and crash to pieces. 2.4 was and still is a disaster. And seeing that nobody are wimpy enough to use source control it is to be expected. Do you people really expect a normal run of the mill user to try Linux? Intall XP or even W2K, and see what users want. They do not care about holly OS wars and ESR's ranting's nor do they want to care if Linus will fix the next kernel. The user want's to play his DVD, record his MiniDV videos on CD using firewire or USB 2.0. He/She can do all that and more with Apple or Microsoft. And you, the "hollier than though " kernel geeks can fight on how to do source control. Linux will never be a major on the desktop nor the server if this is how dev is done. The more growth the higher the demands on the kernel will be. Can Linux handle that? It does not look like it.