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ElcomSoft Files For Dismissal Of E-Book Case

EconomyGuy writes: "ElcomSoft, the Russian software company accused of such evils as producing software to enable the blind to read legally obtained e-books, has filed for a dismissal of the charge that they violated the DMCA. Their main arguments seem to be what we anyone would expect: the DMCA is too vague, copyright holders have too much power, infringement of 1st amendment rights. CNN has all the details, as well as news.com. Interesting to note that there is no mention of the 'we didn't violate Russian law' argument." The efforts to get the case dismissed will no doubt continue.

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  1. This is... by Gaijin42 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    an exceptionally good thing. Here is a clear cut case of the DCMA interfering with fair use. And as a bonus, that fair use isn't tainted by any piracy, mp3, ripping, warezing etc stigma.

    There will come a day when nobody but eccentrics and bibliophiles will read normal books. Everything will be digital. If this case were to succeed, the US government would condem the blind people of the world to illiteracy. (Note to lawyers : feel free to use my comment in your closing arguments :) )

  2. Wise move... by Amarok.Org · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Interesting to note that there is no mention of the 'we didn't violate Russian law' argument.

    I think this is a very wise move on their part. While the basis for a US court having jurisdiction is somewhat questionable (IANAL), if that's a cornerstone of their defense, they end up in a very precarious position.

    Should a judge decide that in fact he/she *DOES* have jurisdiction, a major portion of the case is lost, and that momentum loss would be very difficult to recover from. Rather than challenge jurisdiction, they're challenging the overly ambiguous and inevenly applied law itself. I say good for them.

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  3. Irony by Bob(TM) · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The real irony here is that a Russian company is effectively working to defend American freedoms against its own capitalistic forces. Should make for some pretty amusing classroom reading in about 100 years.

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  4. Dismissal means nothing for the DMCA? by Score0,+Overrated · · Score: 4, Insightful


    If they get a dismissal, then that means the DMCA will go unchallenged right?

    The decision won't have precedent over any subsequent case?

  5. Re:Russian Law by Fjord · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Wouldn't it be more like opening a brothel in Amsterdam, possibly serving clients from the U.S. on vacation there (and possibly not), and then saying "We didn't violate any Amsterdam laws".

    Of course, the U.S. can enact such a law that says that people who serve prostitutes to Americans abroad are in violation of American law, and if they ever come to the U.S. they can be arrested. Helms-Burton is an example of such a law, only is penalizes companies that deal in nationalized Cuban property. The U.S. can make any law it wants. They could even say it's illegal to be Afghani. It's their country. If you violate the laws and then go to their soil, then they can put you in jail, because they have the authority on their land.

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  6. Re:Russian Law by haruharaharu · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They could even say it's illegal to be Afghani

    Well they could, but only after getting the Constitution completely out of the picture. Currently, such a law is illegal

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  7. Re:Good! by James1006 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think that "blind people being about to read eBooks" is just a plea to sympathy.

    I mean, it makes the copyright holders out to be really bad people if they aren't letting blind people have access to books. Villianizes them. I guess it is a fallacy of argument (They should get a better example... perhaps several more actually that they can play from multiple angles).

    It is not just that blind person argument, I think they need to emphasize the fundamental impact on freedom that is occuring because of the DMCA.

    They also need to bring it to the American people, because while right now it is a bunch of online geeks fighting it (Read: A small minority). That is if the American public even knows/cares about the DMCA and this case altogether.

    It shouldn't wait until it gets worse before popular support makes it get better.

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  8. Re:Russian Law by jgerman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Wouldn't it be more like opening a brothel in Amsterdam, possibly serving clients from the U.S. on vacation there (and possibly not), and then saying "We didn't violate any Amsterdam laws".


    No it wouldn't, it would be more like opening a brothel in Amsterdam and selling prostitutes to U.S. citizens on vacation to sneak into the U.S.. You left out a key point in the analogy.

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  9. Re:Headed Down the Same Road? by Jim+Tyre · · Score: 3, Insightful
    While I pretty much agree with everything ElcomSoft established in its brief (DMCA violates free speech, fair use, etc.), I can't help but thinking that we're headed down the same road, and that a federal judge will take one look at the complaint and dismiss it. The Felton case look like a perfect challenge, and look how far that trial got.

    There is a major difference between the Felten case and this one.

    In Felten, the judge never addressed the merits of the DMCA argument, finding instead that there was no case or controversy, because the threats were either withdrawn or misunderstood. Here, Elcomsoft specifically has been charged with violating the DMCA, so the threshhold jurisdiction question which the Judge found in Felten will not be an issue at all here. Unless the charges are dropped in this case or there is a plea, the Court cannot avoid addressing the constitutionality of the DMCA.

    -J, one of the Felten team lawyers

  10. Re:Good! by rgmoore · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Incidentally, though, this "blind people used e-book reader" argument seems a bit thin on the ground,

    Well, the two reasons you listed are probably linked. After all, if only a handful of people have use the software, it's not terribly surprising that you haven't heard many stories about how useful it is. The "satisfied customers" test is only useful if there has been a genuine chance for their to be some customers to be satisfied.

    More importantly, I think that the idea of making E-books useful to blind readers remains a good example, whether or not any specific blind person has used it for that yet. It's an example of a legitimate, non-copyright-infringing use for the product that has been forclosed by the combination of Adobe's restrictive policies and the DMCA. Adobe didn't stop to think about the possibility that blind people wouldn't be able to use their product, and the law says that nobody else can correct their mistake with an add-on. That's idiotic, and it's good to point out how stupid it is.

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