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Episode II Gets Rave Review

Astin writes: "Dark Horizons has obtained a copy of what it believes is the script for Attack of the Clones, and has posted a review. Apparently they got this one right, with epic battles, lots of action, and that sense of adventure that was missing from Episode I. Canoe.ca is also carrying a synopsis from the site."

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  1. Re:So, maybe sucky title != sucky movie? by ASCIIMan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "a movie with such a horribly bad title"

    ... like Star Wars?

  2. Re:I don't think so. by Llywelyn · · Score: 4, Funny

    I thought this too, then I thought to myself self:

    "Self, who am I fooling? I would go see it if it was titled `Episode II: Jar Jar's Revenge'"

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  3. !Scoop by Rogerborg · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A short, shallow review of something that might be the script for Episode II hardly qualifies stopping th presses.

    A decent script is neither a guarantee of quality, nor necessary for it. The script for Episode IV looks like a fourth grader wrote it, and yet it produced a film that both children and adults loved. The magic happens in the casting, sets, costume, makeup, acting, lighting, camerawork, direction, FX and post production editing. Even if it's a genuine script (what reason have we to believe that? There must be dozens of fan scripts doing the rounds) then the final product might be almost unrecognisable.

    It's an interesting bit of speculation, but I'm giving it no more credence nor weight than any other fan generated hype.

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  4. Its not the battles, it's not the action... by xxSOUL_EATERxx · · Score: 5, Funny
    What made STAR WARS a great film is that it was a synthesis of all the aspects of moviemaking, not only special effects space battles, but polt, acting, a great script, and even the details like music (try to imagine STAR WARS witout that glorious theme!), and even the credits: think about the famous screen crawl at the start of the film.

    But the heart and soul of STAR WARS is undeniably the characters: rakish Han Solo the rogue with a heart of gold, trading insults with spunky Princess Leia, so beautiful and so brave; gung-ho Luke Skywalker, the hero right out of Joseph Campbell, who manages to be annoying and inspiring at the same time; even characters like R2-D2 and Chewbacca, who don't have a coherent line in the script, are developed as recognizable personalities! A cast straight out of Shakespeare or Dickens is what makes Lucas' film an immortal classic.

    Don't get me wrong, Space battles and lightsaber duels are great, but let's hope Lucas is able to inject some life into the two-dimensional caricatures who pranced around onscreen during Episode I (name three differences between Obi-Wan and Kwi-Gon-Jinn's personalities, or for that matter, between Obi-Wan and Queen Amidiala), otherwise those of us for whom the STAR WARS flame burns bright in our hearts may be in for another ho-hum prequel.

    1. Re:Its not the battles, it's not the action... by Milalwi · · Score: 5, Interesting

      ...and even the credits: think about the famous screen crawl at the start of the film.

      I'm no Lucas lover, but the opening credit crawl is brilliant! And Lucas had to fight the directors guild to get it in there:

      The Director's Guild of America (DGA) didn't like the fact that there were no specific credits at the beginning of the film. They "ordered" Lucas to re-cut the film and put some credits at the beginning. Lucas refused, claiming that this would destroy the opening of the film. The DGA fined Lucas, who paid up, and promptly quit the DGA.

      Milalwi
    2. Re:Its not the battles, it's not the action... by CaseyB · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I'm no Lucas lover, but the opening credit crawl is brilliant!

      You can continue hating Lucas then, because he borrowed it from Flash Gordon.

  5. Probably a hoax. by netsharc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I doubt the script is real.. and seeing how much of a freaking lunatic George Lucas can be, he'd probably decide to change the script if the real one that got leaked out were the real one.

    I saw the trailer of Episode 2, and I can't believe how fucking cheesy the dialog is. "Anakin, you have grown."; "So have you, Princess. In more ways than one.", or "What if something you want is really here.", said while they're holding hands before Anakin has to go fight some aliens. fffUUUCCCKKK!!! In contrast, Dawson's Creek may not have realistic dialog, but at least it's better than watching a dialog that looks like it was stolen from a conversation between a Britney Spears-listening, boyband-loving bimbo teenager and his duh football-jock boyfriend.

    Stupid Hollywood shit, I can't stand watching most films nowadays, goddamn unrealistic plot development and fucked-up acting of unrealistic dialogs...

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    1. Re:Probably a hoax. by Tryfen · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Stupid Hollywood shit, I can't stand watching most films nowadays

      Then don't watch films from Hollywood! There are pleanty of films from Britain, France, India etc. etc.

      Broaden your horizons - don't just eat what the commercials force feed you.

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    2. Re:Probably a hoax. by Tomster · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Advantages of watching older movies:

      1. No trailers or commercials to fast forward through. Just a few seconds of the FBI's you-better-not-copy-this-tape.

      2. A storyline developed by someone over the age of 10.

      3. Characters who act like human beings, instead of ludicrous puppets being jacked around by plot devices and ridiculous situations.

      4. A soundtrack that supports the movie, instead of screaming "here's what you should be feeling".

      5. Less makeup and other artifices to create the "perfect" visual image.

      6. Characters who show good principles and morals, instead of "oh, well, I just felt like it" ethics.

      I could go on. The point's been made.

      Are there still good films being made? Sure. Are all older films better than today's? No. But the quality of the "average" film has IMO declined considerably.

      -Thomas

  6. Re:I don't think so. by nzhavok · · Score: 4, Funny

    Lets start a fund to hire Jango Fett to assasinate Jar Jar, it's the only way.

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  7. Re:I don't think so. by mgv · · Score: 5, Funny

    I thought it would show Jar-Jar's progress towards enlightenment and progression to a Jedi Knight himself. Similar to that which we saw with Luke Skywalker starting as a simple farm hand ....

    I can see it now, by episode 3 a master in his own right, wielding a light sabre and slicing those from the dark side into pieces (To the cutting victory cries such as "yousa going to be twosa")

    Michael

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  8. SuperShadow's site is known to be fake by Jugalator · · Score: 5, Informative

    SuperShadow's site is known to be 100% bogus. Do a search at Google on "supershadow" to find out for yourself.

    1. SuperShadow doesn't personally know Lucas.

    2. SuperShadow doesn't work at LucasFilm.

    3. The "script" for Episode II he says he got himself, was actually made by TheForce.net fans and others collecting spoilers/leaks from various sites and compiling them into a speculative "script".

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  9. Post predictions for this story by karmma · · Score: 5, Funny

    14 posts about Natalie Portman (petrified or otherwise)

    23 posts calling for the death of Jar Jar

    18 posts wondering if CG was done on Linux boxen, and if not, why not

    12 posts arguing whether or not Boba Fett is the coolest Star Wars character of all time

    Written the way Yoda speaks, 9 posts there will be

    6 links to fan fic that are remarkably similar to the plot in the affore-mentioned script

  10. JarJar binks. Groan. by Alsee · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ok, JarJar's going to be a main character again. May as well put the 'nSync footage back in. Expand it even. Write Briteny Spears into the script. Perhaps even petrify her. And what the heck, why not re-unite Menudo and give them a role too.

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  11. Re:Not so fast by Geek+In+Training · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It just seems like he's jumping on the cloning bandwagon we've been seeing lately in sciencefiction.

    Perhaps you've heard of a little movie from 1977, called "Star Wars?" Later retitled "Star Wars - A New Hope?"

    There's this little plot piece in there that goes soemthing like this:

    Luke: "You fought with my father in the Clone Wars?!?"

    Obi-Wan (Ben) Kenobi: "Yes, your father was one of the best fighter pilots in the Galaxy..."

    I'd hardly think that coming up with a premise twenty-five years ago qualifies as "jumping on the cloning bandwagon" of today.

    :P

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  12. Acting??? by Mr.+Neutron · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Sure, Harrison Ford was great as usual, but Mark Hamill whined his way through the trilogy, and Carrie Fisher was too wasted to put on a decent performance.

    What made the original trilogy great was the "human" aspect of the characters. Han's scoundrel-turned-reluctant hero. Leia calling Han a "scruffy-looking nerfherder" and Chewy a "walking carpet." While the fate of the galaxy hung in the balance, the main characters were really just a bunch of crazy kids having a good time. It was light-hearted in the face of impending doom.

    That element was utterly missing from TPM. Qui-Gon was serious and dour. Obi-Wan was serious and dour. There was no sense of fun in the face of grave danger, but rather a sense of solemness in the face of bland political intrigue and trade embargoes. Jar-Jar was an attempt to inject the needed element into the movie, but it was forced and stale. If Jar-Jar had been a human, or at least a live actor, it might have worked.

    I also have a great fear about AOTC: the trailers clearly are geared towards the "WB crowd." A cheezy romance story (unlike the childish and subdued Luke-Leia-Han triangle that was not the focus but rather a "fleshing out") isn't going to fit well into the arc of the Star Wars saga in general. I fear it's going to be forced, stale, and drag down a trilogy that already shows deep flaws.

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  13. Amazing by NiftyNews · · Score: 4, Funny

    A Star Wars fan site is psyched about an upcoming Star Wars movie?

    Color me amazed.