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TrustE Launches Trusted Spammer Program
Silverhammer writes: "InfoWorld is reporting that such luminaries as TRUSTe, ePrivacy Group, MSN, and DoubleClick are getting together to develop a "trusted senders" program to certify "commercial email" and "elevate" it above ISPs' and end users' spam filters. Why, you ask? Because they believe it's actually our fear of fraud that's hurting their response rates. Apparently all that stuff about invasion of privacy and theft of resources is just a big misunderstanding..." The Infoworld story linked above has the best information about this seal program, but CNet has another story including a quote forecasting 1400 pieces of spam per person per day in five years. Update: 01/31 17:02 GMT by M : The FTC is announcing a crackdown on spam.
Personally what I do is setup a seperate address for all my mailing list mail, and then dump everything with the word "remove" into the trash for my personal mail address. Of course i still glance at the trash, just to make sure.
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I ran the TrustE "vs." Real story here in 1999, and I spent a little while summing up their history-to-date.
Spam is theft. Deleting it takes up time that eventually accumulates...time that can't be billed out. It also eats up network resources in terms of bandwidth and storage space. So, unlike postal junk mail, where the sender pays for postage, *you* pay for spam. Spam is like a collect call that you're forced to accept.
Bill Clinton: Pimp we can believe in. - The Shirt!!!
Wrong, wrong, wrong. Assuming that you are refering to the US postal service you are 100% wrong.
The USPS receives no tax dollars to pay for operations. Not some, not a little, not a few, NONE! The USPS pays for itself. That's why they have to occaionally raise rates. They can't just go ask for more tax dollars. If you don't like the US Mail, don't use it and you won't be paying for it. Don't you wish all government programs were like that?
Bulk mail, presorted stuff, stuff mailed and labeled by machines is actually cheaper for the Post Office to deliver, but the PO doesn't pass ALL of this cost savings on to the Bulk Mailers. You see, those folks sending out junk mail are actually SUBSIDISING YOU! That Valentine's Day card you're about to send to your grandmother costs you less than it should because of all those coupons and solicitations you receive.
If you eliminated junk mail from the US Mail, the Postal Service would cost _more_ per piece to maintain, the price of stamps would go _up_ and it wouldn't save a dime from the Federal Budget.
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Actually, "commercial" junkmail is where the P.O. makes most of its revenues. Presorted (as mass mailings are required to be) requires less handling and sorting by the P.O. itself, so costs less to process and deliver. That's why the P.O. can charge lower rates for it yet still make more money from it.
~REZ~ #43301. Who'd fake being me anyway?
This is completely correct. TrustE will certify that you have a privacy policy, that's about it. When RealNetworks spammed their users repeatedly, anti-spam groups reported to TrustE that Real was violating their own privacy policy. TrustE should have revoked Real's membership, but they did nothing.
Also, what does spam have to do with privacy? TrustE mostly concerns themselves with how companies use your information - but spammers don't have any information about you, only an e-mail address they harvested or bought!
Under capitalism man exploits man. Under communism it's the other way around.
You might look into an anti-telemarketer service. I have Qwest and they call it "Privacy Plus", it's a service bundled with caller ID for $9.95/month. If someone calls, and their caller ID info is unavailable, it prompts them to press a button and record their name. Then, the system will double-ring my phone, play their name, and ask me to press 1 to accept or 2 to decline the call.
:(
The beauty is, most telemarketers can't press the 1 button to speak their name, so your phone never rings. I've gotten two unwanted calls in all the time I've had it (2+ years), one was from the University I work for, asking me to donate money (they had legit caller ID info), and the other night I had someone from the Special Olympics get through, who apparently wasn't using an autodialer. I just pressed the 2 button, and the computer voice told him to shove off.
Yeah, it's a bit pricey, but I'd rather not spend my time running to the phone to deal with those people. I also don't own an answering machine or voice mail, I have a cell phone with those features, and if it's important, and you have to leave me a message, you'll know my cell phone number. Otherwise, you can e-mail me.
I'd ditch the landline completely, but I have two TiVos that depend on it.
When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout. --Robert A. Heinlein
> Dear Chet,_ __
>
> By the way of introduction, I am the Business Development
> Administrator at TRUSTe, the Internet's leading privacy seal program.
> Privacy, the handling of personal information collected from consumers,
> has become the key issues that dramatically shapes consumer trust.
> According to Business Week/Harris Poll, 92% of users mistrust privacy
> statements unless the site uses a third party oversight program. It
> also stated that 78% of online users said they would increase use if
> Internet was more protected and 61% of non-users would more likely to
> begin using the Internet. Clearly, consumers are demanding enhanced
> privacy protection and, responding to these demands, smart companies are
> beginning to take steps to ensure that their customers have control over
> their personal information. To that end, there are several best
> practices that companies can follow to ensure that appropriate, trust
> building privacy guidelines are in place. One of which is to join
> TRUSTe's Web Privacy Program.
>
> TRUSTe, the leading online privacy organization, is the most
> trust-invoking symbol on the Internet. TRUSTe currently has more than
> 2000 licensees, which includes companies such as MICROSOFT, INTEL AOL,
> EXCITE@HOME and many more. The TRUSTe Privacy Seal program was founded
> on the core tenets of Fair Information Practices, which are endorsed by
> the Federal Trade Commission, and is constantly updated. In addition to
> its privacy seal program, TRUSTe has several other programs such as the
> Children's Privacy Seal Program, EU Safe Harbor, e-Health Seal Program
> and the Software Pilot Privacy Program.
>
> One central element in all of these programs is the TRUSTe Watchdog, an
> alternative dispute resolution mechanism that allows consumers to bring
> their privacy-related complaints to TRUSTe.
>
> By addressing consumer privacy concerns, you can take the initial
> steps to gain user trust. If you have any questions about the issue of
> privacy or the TRUSTe program, please feel free to contact me or visit
> or Web site at www.truste.org for more in depth information. I look
> forward to hearing from you.
>
> Best,
>
>
> Israel Canjura, JR.
> Business Development Administrator
>
> TRUSTe
> 1180 Coleman Ave Ste. 202
> San Jose, CA 95110
> Phone (408) 494-4970, Fax (408) 494-4960
> _________________________________________________
>
> TRUSTe http://www.truste.org
> Building a Web you can believe in.
Oddly enough, it is impossible to contact truste.org through their main phone number, you only get a machine. The phone number here is Israel's and he does answer it. So maybe I am wrong, maybe this unsolicited piece of mail is not spam, maybe it it is just what i asked for when I blew out my birthday candles... I guess you could give Israel a call and ask him.
It sounds drastic, but if you want to get rid of every telemarkter that will every try to reach you ... get a cell phone and cancel your primary line.
Sure you might still use the copper for dial-up or DSL ... in that case, unplug your phone and turn off your modem ringer.
I did this after purchasing my home and it was a welcome relief. I know the tricks with telemarketers, I know the magic words, "put me on your company's do not call list" but I was still getting the calls.
With the cell as my primary number it does not happen. Granted, this might depend on my carrier (EdgeWireless, basically a front for AT&T), however from what I understand most cell providers are very skeptical about selling their number list to telemarketers for fear of the enormous consumer backlash (interestingly enough, it would be for the same root reason we all get so pissed about spam: ergo, we pay to receive spam just like we'd pay, per minute, to receive telemarketing calls on a cell phone).
I hope this helps you out. Yes, I am well aware how annoying it is to change one's primary phone number.
Cheers,
-- RLJ
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