Posted by
timothy
on from the it's-an-old-family dept.
RoosterT writes: "AP is reporting that an 11,000+ year-old lifeform has been found in California. The lifeform? A bush. This bush threatens to topple the current world-record holder. Another bush."
Nice sarcasm jerk.
by
perdida
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There's some serious science here.
Yes, it's a bush. That bush may tell us how plant cells adapt to conditions, and they are accurate, living records of thousands of years of climate data. It's not just "another bush".
Re:Sorry to stir, but
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Skeezix
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There are extremists in every camp. Sadly, some creationists give a bad name to the group and stick out like a sore thumb. The ones you don't hear about are the ones who are quietly working behind the scenes. So I certainly wasn't refering to the creationists who give analogies such as the 747 assembling itself in the junkyard or monkeys typing shakespeare or any such nonsense. I was referring to real scientists who have come to the conclusion that the best explanation..well, tell you what, I'll let them put it in their own words.
"Amazing fine tuning occurs in the laws that make this [complexity] possible. Realization of the complexity of what is
accomplished makes it very difficult not to use the word 'miraculous' without taking a stand as to the ontological status of
the word." -- George Ellis (British astrophysicist)
"I find it as difficult to understand a scientist who does not acknowledge the presence of a superior rationality behind the
existence of the universe as it is to comprehend a theologian who would deny the advances of science. " -- Wernher von
Braun (Pioneer rocket engineer)
"Here is the cosmological proof of the existence of God - the design argument of Paley - updated and refurbished. The fine
tuning of the universe provides prima facie evidence of deistic design. Take your choice: blind chance that requires multitudes
of universes or design that requires only one.... Many scientists, when they admit their views, incline toward the teleological
or design argument." -- Ed Harrison (cosmologist)
"When I began my career as a cosmologist some twenty years ago, I was a convinced atheist. I never in my wildest dreams
imagined that one day I would be writing a book purporting to show that the central claims of Judeo-Christian theology are
in fact true, that these claims are straightforward deductions of the laws of physics as we now understand them. I have
been forced into these conclusions by the inexorable logic of my own special branch of physics." -- Frank Tipler (Professor
of Mathematical Physics)
The first, and main, problem is the very existence of the big bang. One may wonder, What came before? If space-time did
not exist then, how could everything appear from nothing? What arose first: the universe or the laws determining its
evolution? Explaining this initial singularity-where and when it all began-still remains the most intractable problem of
modern cosmology. -- Andrei Linde's admission
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Yes, it's a bush. That bush may tell us how plant cells adapt to conditions, and they are accurate, living records of thousands of years of climate data. It's not just "another bush".
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"Amazing fine tuning occurs in the laws that make this [complexity] possible. Realization of the complexity of what is accomplished makes it very difficult not to use the word 'miraculous' without taking a stand as to the ontological status of the word." -- George Ellis (British astrophysicist)
"I find it as difficult to understand a scientist who does not acknowledge the presence of a superior rationality behind the existence of the universe as it is to comprehend a theologian who would deny the advances of science. " -- Wernher von Braun (Pioneer rocket engineer)
"Here is the cosmological proof of the existence of God - the design argument of Paley - updated and refurbished. The fine tuning of the universe provides prima facie evidence of deistic design. Take your choice: blind chance that requires multitudes of universes or design that requires only one.... Many scientists, when they admit their views, incline toward the teleological or design argument." -- Ed Harrison (cosmologist)
"When I began my career as a cosmologist some twenty years ago, I was a convinced atheist. I never in my wildest dreams imagined that one day I would be writing a book purporting to show that the central claims of Judeo-Christian theology are in fact true, that these claims are straightforward deductions of the laws of physics as we now understand them. I have been forced into these conclusions by the inexorable logic of my own special branch of physics." -- Frank Tipler (Professor of Mathematical Physics)
The first, and main, problem is the very existence of the big bang. One may wonder, What came before? If space-time did not exist then, how could everything appear from nothing? What arose first: the universe or the laws determining its evolution? Explaining this initial singularity-where and when it all began-still remains the most intractable problem of modern cosmology. -- Andrei Linde's admission
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