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Incredible Shrinking PC

Lawrence_Bird writes "Reuters is reporting that IBM is set to announce next week a prototype PC called a 'metapad' 5"x3"x0.75". 128Mb Ram, 10GB, and an 800 Mhz cpu. Understand this is a module that can be plugged into other devices, such as a LCD screen or docking station. "

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  1. Can you imagine... by Wind_Walker · · Score: 2

    ...putting one in your pocket on a crowded subway?
    ...trying to *type* on this thing?
    ...the cost of these things?
    ...how this will impact the PDA market?
    ...the cost of these things?
    ...having a Beowulf cluster in a card catalog?

    1. Re:Can you imagine... by JabberWokky · · Score: 5, Interesting
      It's solid A4 paper sized!! Do you put your laptop in your pocket????

      Actually, it's 3x5, i.e., the size of a small stack of 3x5 cards. It'll fit in a pocket, but more importantly, will fit in most organizers/office supply holders. It's a known format.

      And to the person who said "imagine tryng to type on this thing?" - Well, imagine trying to type on a Pentium chip!!! Because that's what this basically is - only mugh higher level. It's the processor and storage in a modular block. Realistically, I'd love to see it become standardized and OSes support it - pop one into a "empty" laptop, and you have your data. Pop one into a "empty" desktop, and you have it there - or pop two in, and you've got twice the diskspace (or maybe just mirrored), and twice the processor power. Is your game too slow? Pop in two more.

      As stupid as it is, the phrase: "Can you imagine a Beowulf cluster of these" almost makes sense. Well, not Beowulf, per se, but personal clustering on a shared bus.

      HAHAHHAHA! I just realized - after 25 friggin years of moving towards PCs and peer to peer, we may be not only be going back to minis and mainframes storing data (accessable via a wireless, pervasive network), we *may* just go back to a neutral backplane - can you say "S-100 bus"? Hehehhee....

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    2. Re:Can you imagine... by govtcheez · · Score: 3, Funny

      ...being pickpocketed and losing your computer!

    3. Re:Can you imagine... by CDWert · · Score: 2

      GOD i hope so !!!!

      I am / was a S-100 Junkie, not the neatest and most compact, but in 81 I had a z80, a 8080 , and a 6502 all sharing the same backplane and devices....

      God those days were good when the only thing that could ruin your day was the smell of toasting caps..

      I have a hell of a time making a connection to the surface mount crap.

      But back to the Bus, this is in my opinion The only way to fly, Ive been thinking about what it would take to ressurect a new S-100 standard,

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    4. Re:Can you imagine... by markmoss · · Score: 2

      Well, imagine trying to type on a Pentium chip!!! Or a slot 1 Pentium. The CPU & cache came in a little board, which with heatsink was quite a lot bigger than this.

      Sounds like it might be more successful as an embedded control module than as a consumer product. But I do want to know how they got away with an 800MHz CPU without adding a humongous heat-sink. Does it throttle back to 66MHz most of the time?

  2. Portable! by yonnage · · Score: 2

    Nice, now I can have a pc where ever I go! Oh wait, then what would I do with my laptop? Maybe I can attach it to my laptop, and use Merlin with it :)

  3. ironically.. by dag2001 · · Score: 2

    .. the better/smaller the device, the easier it is for pickpockets ;)

  4. A 10-gigaBIT hard drive? by pomakis · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The article actually claims that the unit has a 10-gigaBIT hard drive. I wonder if that was a mistake, or an intentional marketing ploy to make it sound more impressive than it actually is.

    1. Re:A 10-gigaBIT hard drive? by pinkpineapple · · Score: 2

      It's also possible that the device will sport the latest 10GB HD that will also be featured in a upcoming rev of the Apple iPod (really soon now.)

      PPA, the girl next door

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  5. A rose by any other name ... by dzym · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Understand this is a module that can be plugged into other devices, such as a LCD screen or docking station.

    In other words this is a laptop without a screen?

  6. MetaPad?? by tonywestonuk · · Score: 4, Interesting

    MetaSearch=Search a set of search engines

    MetaModerate=Moderate a set of Moderations

    MetaPad=Pad a set of Pads???!!

    Can 'Meta' prefix a Noun, rather than a Verb?

    1. Re:MetaPad?? by screwballicus · · Score: 5, Informative

      From www.m-w.com:

      Main Entry: meta-
      Variant(s): or met-
      Function: prefix
      Etymology: New Latin & Medieval Latin, from Latin or Greek; Latin, from Greek, among, with, after, from meta among, with, after; akin to Old English mid, mith with, Old High German mit
      1 a : occurring later than or in succession to : after b : situated behind or beyond c : later or more highly organized or specialized form of
      2 : change : transformation
      3 [metaphysics] : more comprehensive : transcending -- used with the name of a discipline to designate a new but related discipline designed to deal critically with the original one
      4 a : involving substitution at or characterized by two positions in the benzene ring that are separated by one carbon atom b : derived from by loss of water

      Looks like 'meta', as a prefix, can mean a great deal of abstract things. Presumably, the idea of transcendence is what they're looking for here.

    2. Re:MetaPad?? by pinkpineapple · · Score: 2

      Symbolics used the word Metakeys for their bunch of modifier keys.

      The only diff is : Metakeys sounds cool. Metapad sounds dumb.

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    3. Re:MetaPad?? by leshert · · Score: 2

      You mean like metaphysics, metastasis, metamorphosis?

      Yeah, I think so.

  7. Just a mini-mini-minitower by mblase · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...In other words, no keyboard, no mouse, no screen, no input or output of any kind. It's a PC you're meant to take home and plug into a docking station which has all your input and output devices ready for you.

    Why this is any better than an ultraslim laptop, which has pretty much all the same features plus the ability to use it without a docking station when needed, is not immediately clear to me.

    1. Re:Just a mini-mini-minitower by hey! · · Score: 2

      I think it is step in a certain direction, not an ultimate desintation. Because of the aging of the population, I've been imaginging something like this for a long time, but much more advanced. As people get older one of the things that should be done is to keep them independent as long as possible consistent with safety. They will need technology that will help them deal with the decay of their ability to remember recent events, their ability to orient themselves geographically, and their hearing and seeing.

      What I have imagined is a device that could be worn like a wristwatch (perhaps it will be a wristwatch), that would function as a supplementary memory, but be less obtrusive and less easily misplaced than a PDA. It would have voice recording/recognition, medical alert data, PDA functions, two way paging, and emergency location, and general computing features such as record keeping. Because of its small size and senior's perceptual difficulties, it would have only basic UI capabilities on its own, but it could interface wirelessly with large format displays, public kiosks, smart vehicle systems, and perhaps with a number of user interface appliances. For example, you could perhaps add an LCD pad which interfaced wirelessly with your wristwatch computer to provide "continuous translation" when your hearing is no good anymore.

      We'll all be there some day, so I personally applaud every advance towards ultraminiaturization of computers and wearables, even if I personally have little need for them today.

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    2. Re:Just a mini-mini-minitower by Catbeller · · Score: 2


      Make it 802.11 capable, then build generic keyboards and screens that use that work through RF. Bluetooth, if it ever works, would fill the bill nicely if it ever gets cheap enough.

      Storage? Firewire enabled hard drives in at your office or home, or connect to your data bank in your house via modem, broadband, or RF.

      And hard drives are shrinking. And MRAM is coming in a few years, which means solid state non-volatile storage.

      The PC is dead, long live the PC! The world is changing again. I think modular 802.11 micro-micros with commodity peripherals are the next wave.

      And what a HELL of an e-book reader it could be!

  8. Transmeta makes a comeback.. by Evanrude · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This sounds like something that would be a great application for a Transmeta CPU. These will definitely need low power and cool-running chips. It's too bad the article didn't have many details.

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  9. Brilliant by AlexCV · · Score: 2, Interesting

    With a little device like this, I could move my "Computer" from home to work, have the laptop be a "dock" for the computer.

    Taking it one step further, an industry standard device could allow one to buy laptops as a chassis with engine. I could buy the Thinkpad X's chassis and plop in a transmeta computing module to get 2x the battery life.

    Alex

    1. Re:Brilliant by bpowell423 · · Score: 2

      I like your idea. The removable "engine" could contain the cpu/memory/hd/video... and the chassis could contain the screen, battery compartment, removable drive-bay. The screen is one of the pricier parts of a laptop, I'm guessing, and not likely to change much, given that 15" is about as big as a laptop screen can get, and smaller pixels aren't of much use. Might make a decently upgradable laptop, just replace the "engine", the battery, the removable media drive, whatever. Break the screen? Just get a new chassis and move everything over. So, who's gonna make this?

    2. Re:Brilliant by JediTrainer · · Score: 2

      Why not just get one of these?

      It's got everything you want, in a PC the size of a CD player.

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  10. Just a stripped-down notebook by InsaneCreator · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Add a battery, DVD drive, keyboard. Is it still a lot smaller than a notebook? It seems to me like someone just took an old notebook apart... Not all that revolutionary when you look at it form this perspective, is it?

    1. Re:Just a stripped-down notebook by Rogerborg · · Score: 2
      • seems to me like someone just took an old notebook apart

      Yup, it's a crippled notebook or a fancy removable HDD. Considering how much this will cost, and that it needs full docking stations at both ends to make it usable at home/office (and anywhere else you go), you'd probably be as well buying two complete desktop system (at a much lower price for the same spec) and adding a removable HDD. The advantage of the super-removable-HDD is that it carries its own OS and apps, but there's nothing stopping you doing that with a normal removable HDD with two similar desktop systems, or running VmWare and mounting your portable OS/apps as a virtual machine for that matter.

      Perhaps we're getting the wrong idea though. They're talking about using it as more of a super-but-crippled-PDA for hotel checkins and such. Say what? So, it's like a PDA, only there's no way to use it on the move, which really means that it's like a super-smart credit card, only stupidly expensive and much bigger and less convenient?

      Sound to me like a cool toy without any real application. I kind of want one, but I don't really know why. ;-)

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  11. Choices by smashin234 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Finally, a mainstream computer both small and fast enough to fit in a car.

    I am looking forward to watching movies and listening to the music I want to in the car, and it is removable and can have (Maybe) a cdrom so I can watch even more movies!

  12. "Metapad"? by erroneus · · Score: 2

    I'm not sure about the name...

    ...I think there could be a lawsuit coming from whatever Japanese company owns "Poke'mon." Isn't there a pokemon out there by that name?

    1. Re:"Metapad"? by liquidsin · · Score: 2

      that's "metapOd"
      you were close though

      and I think "whatever Japanese company owns Pokemon" would be Nintendo.

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  13. iPod killer? by bentini · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This thing sure has the potential to be an iPod killer. Not only do you get to have all your music, you get to have all your workspace and all your files with you, wherever you go. I just plug it into another computer and that computer instantly acts as a dumb terminal into my own computer. That sounds like a really great idea!
    What does this do, you may ask, other than act as a penis-size indicator without a screen? Well, if I want, I can run it as a personal server that's small. If I want the portability of a laptop without the size, I can have one docking station for it at home and one at the office, and play mp3's on it in the car during my drive between. (If it's a pc, then somebody can make a panel you put on it that will give you an lcd to select files and an audio output). If it's reasonbly priced if/when it comes out, I'll definitely get one if only for the fun use factor!

    1. Re:iPod killer? by Tazzy531 · · Score: 2

      If it's reasonbly priced if/when it comes out, I'll definitely get one if only for the fun use factor!

      Reasonably priced, HA! Things like this never become reasonably priced until like 10 years after its initial release. Just look at Flat panel Plasma TVs. They are still well over $5000. I'm thinking this will come out at around the same price. Would you be willing to pay 5K for a 800mhz, 10 gig computer that you will have to shell out even more money to plug it into an LCD, etc.

      Don't get me wrong, I like this idea. But it's still in its concept stage and at this point, its only something that geeks will go gaga over for a while.

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    2. Re:iPod killer? by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 2

      To be an 'iPod killer' it would have to be released for public consumption in the next year or so. IBM doesn't appear to have any plans to actually market this baby, so it's not going to be killing anything, any time soon. Moreover, if the 10GigaBit HDD thing is correct, the drive is a fifth the size of the iPod's.

      That said, I think this is a fabulous idea. Pluggable, portable. You don't have to worry about cracking the screen, 'cause you don't bring the screen along. When they release this (if?) in a couple years, LCDs'll be cheap. You buy one for home, and one for the car, and one for work, and you tote this thing around with books and notes and appointments. More portable than a laptop, and more flexible than a PDA.

      People have been saying recently that the place for Linux is in embedded and portable systems, 'cause that's the wave of the future. Little PC things like this are exactly what they were talking about!

    3. Re:iPod killer? by Knobby · · Score: 2

      Maybe.. But they need to add a Firewire or USB2 port, a small HD, a DAC, and a nice interface.. For a drive, IBM's microdrive might work, but it's slower and smaller than the Toshiba Firewire drive in the iPod..

      The point is that the iPod looks pretty secure for the time being..

  14. unattributed metanews - grr by mysticbob · · Score: 3, Informative

    so apparently we all read arstechnica too. this was on there long before it showed up on slashdot. i don't blame the /. editors for this, but i'd hope that the people posting news would take a bit more ethical responsibility and report the source. see the original arstechnica article for more details.

    1. Re:unattributed metanews - grr by Catbeller · · Score: 2

      Actually it was Ars Technica sourcing News.com: IBM's Chameleon Computer

  15. Just What the Doctor Ordered by Slothrup · · Score: 5, Funny
    "We've taken the PC down to where you can take it home and finish your work," said Kenneth Ocheltree, manager for next generation mobile at IBM Research.

    ...because pagers and cell phones haven't completely succeeded in making our jobs be 24/7.

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    1. Re:Just What the Doctor Ordered by Em+Emalb · · Score: 3, Insightful

      At this time, the parent post is modded as "funny".

      I really don't think this is funny at all. Some of us *ARE* way too plugged in all the time. It is unhealthy, imo. I remember somewhere, don't have time to find the link, as I would have to dig for a long time...saying that the more we advance, the less time we will have for ourselves. I don't like the sound of that. I want my children to have me there for them, as well as a little time to myself where I can disconnect from the daily grind and do what ever. If I was given one of these, it would NOT leave the office.

      ok, just a little insight on this rainy, ugly day.

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    2. Re:Just What the Doctor Ordered by kin_korn_karn · · Score: 2

      All of us in IT are slaves indentured to our corporate masters. We are given life by them and can have it taken away in an economy like this.

      for a more employee-centric perspective, see the movie "Matewan". If you can find a video store that has it - it's probably considered a terrorism-inciting piece of artwork now.

    3. Re:Just What the Doctor Ordered by kin_korn_karn · · Score: 2

      likewise for the lasseiz-faire capitalist feudal lords who think they can suck the labor of the world dry and leave us all to starve.

      it's the consequence of my choice, but if the world were a better place - even the place it was before Reagan and Thatcher - the consequences would not be so severe that there is no hope of overcoming them.

      If you cage an animal, it will become more angry and agitated and eventually fight back, unless you sedate it artificially. Hence, the entertainment industry, the pharmaceutical industry (to a small extent), and the drug trade.

      no, you won't change my mind. move along, but remember what I said...

    4. Re:Just What the Doctor Ordered by squaretorus · · Score: 2

      Cakes cannot be had and eaten. I sympathise, but if you sit down to write your 'big list' of important things - and the top three are "spend time with the kids", "spend time with the missus", "have a lot of sex", then make sure you do them!

      If that means you have to ditch the career into a lower gear then cool - it WASN'T FIRST ON THE LIST!!!

      Some peoples list will be "earn shitloads of cash", "shag dozens of women", "play better football" - They too should go for it and make sure they get what they want.

      The fact that a wee computer exists doesn't make the slightest difference to this. I carry my laptop everywhere, I'll boot up and check my messages when visiting my parents, I love my job, my first three are different from yours, tech rocks.

      I've left jobs because I realised they didn't fit with my top three. If yours doesn't then leave the job. That's not meant confrontationally - but quite seriously nontheless.

      Lifes too short to dick about in the wrong job - they take too much time and effort at the best of times. Job inertia is a powerful thing.. fight it.

  16. if it doesn't sell well as a computer... by Gavitron_zero · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...get AMD to put a proc in the thing, then market it as "MetaHeatingPad".

  17. Oh come on by wiredog · · Score: 2

    That's like the people at k5 complaining "This was on The Other Site". All of us don't read arstechnica.

  18. Wearable PCs by Tazzy531 · · Score: 2

    Hook this up to one of those shoes that generate power as you walk from MIT. Attach it to a glasses HUD with voice recognition and you have a wearable computer.

    This is gonna be cool...

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    1. Re:Wearable PCs by SgtXaos · · Score: 2, Funny

      Won't it scramble the drive when they shoot your shoes with SuperXRays at the airport?

      While I'm burning Karma, I think I went to school with this Ocheltree cat. If it is the guy, he's pretty smart, but he don't have any Elvis in him.

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  19. And why exactly... by Aexia · · Score: 2, Insightful
    ``We've taken the PC down to where you can take it home and finish your work,'' said Kenneth Ocheltree, manager for next generation mobile at IBM Research.

    is this a Good Thing(tm)?

  20. Yes it's true, oversimplifying makes it dull. by NanoGator · · Score: 2

    Assuming it has a touch screen and an OS that takes advantage of that touch screen, then what you have here is much better than an ordinary laptop.

    Frankly, laptops are uncomfortable to use in your lap. A tablet's form factor would work much better for doing things like browsing the web while you're watching TV.

    As an artist, I use a sketch pad with an array of pencils and markers. With a sufficiently designed tablet, I could run Photoshop on it and use that as my sketchpad. Since all the work I do is digital, being able to save the step of scanning my sketches is a big time saver. Not to mention that with Photoshop, I could start with a real photo (PCMCIA camera?) and draw on top of that. Plus, I would need a lot fewer art supplies, and those aren't cheap. Heck, if I really wanted to get fancy (and I do...) I could get an 802.11 card and have it automatically upload my sketches to my website. Since I post my artwork on forums alot, this would be a time saver too.

    The execs where I work have expressed interest in replacing their laptops with tablets. One of them actually said "I wish my PDA was about 8.5 by 11 inches." On a plane and in meetings, its far more convenient to use in that form factor.

    If you oversimplify anything, it can sound dull. The revolution comes from how it's used, not how it's designed. If one teeny weeny little change to a system makes people use it in a whole new way, then that's all it needs to be interesting. You know that little wheel on your mouse? Those didn't always used to be there. Now that it's there, I can't stand mice that don't have that wheel.

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  21. MetaPad ... with Wings? by Chiana · · Score: 4, Funny

    MetaPad sounds WAY too much like a super-absorbent feminine hygiene product.

    1. Re:MetaPad ... with Wings? by kin_korn_karn · · Score: 2, Funny

      funny you should mention that. this idea is not so fresh :)

  22. Bizarre article, interesting device by PhotoGuy · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I think this is an excellent idea. I move back and forth between work daily, and it always seems wasteful to carry a laptop, when all I really need is my data/os/environment moved, and not all the peripherals, screen, keyboard. I'm not using them in the car.

    I realize this was for Yahoo Finance, and not exactly aimed at the SlashDot crowd, but seriously:
    that runs at 800 megahertz, or 800 million cycles per second.
    Sheeesh. Like explaining that 800 megahertz is 800 million cycles per second is going to clue folks in with such valuable information. "Gawrsh, that's a lot of cycles per second." :-)

    And IBM's statements seem weird:
    Ocheltree said IBM doesn't have specific plans to sell the prototype, which could be ready for market in few years.
    Ready for the market in a few years??? In a few years, this thing should be *way* obsolete, with tiny pocket computers more powerful than our desktops of today. This thing would be useful and interesting today, not a year from now.
    IBM is talking to computer makers and customers about how it could be used, he said.
    ``We're trying to understand how people would use it and interact with it,'' Ocheltree said.
    I thought IBM had top notch people in usability, market research, laptop design, and so on. It seems strange to hear them say "we have this cool technology, but we're not sure how people would use it." I can think of a dozen ways it could be turned into a useful product. I guess it's good that they're asking the industry, but it sounds like these guys are a bit directionless, and will end up deliverying too little, way too late.

    Too bad, I'd likely buy one of these if it were available today.

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    1. Re:Bizarre article, interesting device by cellux · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The best thing would be a non-forgetting memory card with ca. 60GB of static RAM (which doesn't lose its data when power is cut off).

      The computers would host this card (think of flat screens with slots in the side) plus the CPU and the peripherals (monitor, keyboard, mouse, printer, modem, whatever). So the bit-storage would be basically separate from the host unit and replaceable while the machine is running.

      There would be no need for hard disks anymore. If you'd want new data for a program (create a new document, save it, whatever), all you'd do is malloc() it, no need for files or anything. The static memory would store it all. No file systems, just memory managers (associating "filenames" and "folders" with handles of allocated memory blocks)

      The task states would be stored on the memory card, too, so if you'd just remove the card from the computer, all programs would be left as they were, if you'd insert it into other computer, the memory would be automatically appear in the address space of the CPU and all programs would continue where they were left off. (the host would provide the power to drive the bits on the storage :-)

      Hope I'll see this happen...

  23. The danger inherent in a small device by kiwimate · · Score: 2

    I was crossing the street one day and a few steps in front of me was a young lady talking animatedly on a cellphone. So animatedly was she talking, in fact, that she failed to notice the height of the curb and consequently stumbled when she reached the other side. The cellphone flew out of her hand and crashed down in the gutter, whereupon the battery fell off the back of the phone.

    Leaving two very small black rectangular objects.

    Both of which were easily small enough to fit in the gaps between the bars of the sewer grating on which they landed.

    ...unfortunately, as much fun as it may be to leave it there, I have to report they didn't fall down the drain, but instead both bounced off the bars and onto the road. Pure dumb luck she didn't lose them both.

  24. shrinking? by mrroot · · Score: 2

    ...and when I opened up the box, there had been significant shrinkage.

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    1. Re:shrinking? by talks_to_birds · · Score: 2
      Not to worry:

      "This package contains the full measure advertised."

      "It may appear to be less than full because the package contents are measured by weight, not by volume."

      "Some settling of the contents is to be expected during handling."

      Thank you.

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  25. Ergo Brick by wcspxyx · · Score: 2, Informative

    Isn't this just a re-hashing of the Ergo Brick? It was a 486/Pentium that was just a brick with ports. Sold with the idea that you could afford a second monitor, kbd and mouse at home, and you would just lug this thing back and forth. Was used in some secure environments because you could pop the whole machine in a safe at the end of the day.

    Point is, this really isn't a new idea. Not that it's a bad one, but it's definately not original.

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  26. it runs Windows XP? by WildBeast · · Score: 2

    I thought that IBM was going to be supporting Linux.

  27. Another article, with less cheese by Xemu22 · · Score: 2, Informative

    This article on CNN has the same basic content, a few more details, but infinitely less painful to read than the cornball "humor" in the Yahoo article.

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  28. Plug In? by barnaclebarnes · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why the hell would you want to plug it into a base station? Haven't they heard of Bluetooth? Simply walk up to a screen/mouse/keyboard station, pair the device and of you go. This is the medium term future of computing, one small device that holds all that you currently have on your local machine with the ability to pick it up and walk away with it, just like todays PDA's. Of course it will be full featured when linked with the right I/O devices unlike todays PDA's.

    Longer term it should all be networked but since the networks don't cover everywhere we need to be and are not fast enough yet this isn't fessible.

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  29. Re:Metapad Name Already Taken (so?) by teridon · · Score: 2, Informative

    Trademark does not apply -- the link you point to is for software, while IBM's handy-dandy miracle machine is hardware.

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  30. 800 MHz what?i by teridon · · Score: 3, Funny
    and a microprocessor ... that runs at 800 megahertz

    oooooooh, I'm supposed to be impressed? What microprocessor? My cordless phone runs at 2 GHz. :-/

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  31. hey! by nomadic · · Score: 2, Funny

    Understand this is a module that can be plugged into other devices, such as a LCD screen

    A computer that can be attached to a monitor? I'll believe it when I see it!

  32. As Will Rogers might have said... by Robotech_Master · · Score: 2

    ...I never metapad I didn't like.

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  33. Re:Take it Home? by NMerriam · · Score: 3, Funny

    Photoshop over Telnet always seems to give me some sort of error...

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  34. Turn it around by fobbman · · Score: 2

    A computer this small means you can take it to work and finish that game of NetHack you were doing so well on at home.

  35. Where are *your* priorities? by Tenebrious1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Bah, that's a load of BS. Where are your priorties? If you want to spend more time with your kids, then do so, don't sit there and complain about being too busy.

    I get paid way less than I should because I turn my pager off on weekends. I don't put in any overtime unless it's critical. Yeah, I'm not living the high life, and not going to have much when it comes to retirement funds, but the important thing to me is that I enjoy my time with my son, NOW. Once he's grown, I'll probably have to work much harder and longer to make up for lost time, but that's just money. You can't make up lost time with your kids.

    I don't have a GHz computer at home, I don't drive a Benz, I don't own a big house, I can't buy the latest gadets. But I do take my son out hiking and camping on weekends. That's where my priorites are. Think about yours...

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    1. Re:Where are *your* priorities? by Rupert · · Score: 2

      Ditto. I figure that at some point my children will realize I'm not cool and they will not want to spend any time with me at all. Until then I'm going to be with them as much as I can.

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    2. Re:Where are *your* priorities? by Em+Emalb · · Score: 3, Insightful

      from the previous poster...

      "I get paid way less than I should because I turn my pager off on weekends. I don't put in any overtime unless it's critical. Yeah, I'm not living the high life, and not going to have much when it comes to retirement funds..."

      And why is this fair? This is what I am saying. Why should you be plugged in 24/7 to get a good salary? Basically you are saying that you are forced to sacrifice salary because you want to spend time with your child. I commend you in this, and I wish more people would. However, is it fair that you can't have it both ways? Why not get that good salary AND spend time with your kid? Are corporations blind to this? Seems to me to be that way. And yes, I know that life isn't fair...but this isn't something to be taken lightly. He's taking an admitted pay cut because he wishes to spend time with his family. IMO, shame on your company, and others like it.

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    3. Re:Where are *your* priorities? by caffeined · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "And why is this fair? This is what I am saying. Why should you be plugged in 24/7 to get a good salary? Basically you are saying that you are forced to sacrifice salary because you want to spend time with your child."

      Well, suppose you were the person who was working like a dog. How would you feel if someone working plain old 9-5 got the same pay? I think that would be perceived as unfair.

      "Why not get that good salary AND spend time with your kid? Are corporations blind to this?"

      Um, corporations don't exist for the purpose of providing their employees with a generous salary for a light work load. Their purpose is to turn a profit. The corporations are not blind - they are quite clearly looking at those things which affect the bottom line.

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  36. Embedded controller? by markmoss · · Score: 2

    This sounds rather dubious if it's sold to consumers. Remember the "brick" computers of a few years ago? These were compact and reasonably high performance boxes, more than pocket size but still not hard to take home with you. But you had to have a monitor, keyboard, mouse, and CD & floppy drives at every place you were going to use it. They were far sturdier than laptops, and I think had considerably higher performance than a laptop in the same price range. But they were duds on the market. I doubt that shrinking it to pocket size will be sufficient to overcome the basic problem that to the average user it's just a laptop with critical parts missing...

    But I can see an embedded system designer salivating over this, IF the price is right and there is a good way to attach the required I/O. Give it USB, Firewire, and RS-232 ports so we can hook in I/O modules and bury this thing somewhere inside of a machine. For program development, we might have to reach inside and hook up the docking port, but once the software is released we just load up the internal HD and stick it in the machine.

  37. Here is a list for you: by Erris · · Score: 2
    Mega Pad.
    Tera Pax.
    Giga Tex.

    Spot the madness!

    5PM time for dinner, chow!

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  38. GOOD GREAT GRAND by diesel_jackass · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I hope its running a lite version of XP. 1.25GB isn't too much space.

    this would make a sweet little MP3/DVD player though if you could attach IDE/USB devices.

    i just hope i don't have to take my work home with me every night.

  39. A retirement spreadsheet by hawk · · Score: 2
    I use this for my classes:


    http://www.personal.psu.edu/reh18/micro/retireme nt .xls


    It's in an older excel format, if memory serves (as old as I could save with whateverI was using that day).


    ANyway, it assumes a 7% real return (the historical average forthe stock market), though this can be set in a cell to other values.


    It shows the effects of putting $2000/year (the old IRA amount; it's now $3000, but you can change that in the sheet) every year from 21 to 65, including the value of that year's contribution on its own at 65. It also shows starting at 31, and stopping at 30--come retirement time, your contributions from 21-30 are worth more than those from 31-65!


    hawk