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Campaign for Free Software in the Bundestag

mpawlo writes: "According to Swedish IDG.se, the president of Microsoft Germany is outraged over the Bundestux campaign. The campaign aims to put Linux in the Bundestag (German Parliament). He has sent a letter to the campaign workers - some of them members of the German parliament - stating that Microsoft is not a threat to democratic values (as argued by the campaign). Kurt Sibold also states that the only thing achieved through the campaign is a public slander of Microsoft." Also reported by the Register, if you prefer English.

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  1. Trusted software. by AntipodesTroll · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Governments should be using software they can trust, and trust is earned, never gained.

    Windows has some good technology in it, and it is nowdays a halfway-decent product. The problem isnt windows, its Microsoft.

    You just plain cant trust Microsoft, one bit. You dont evven have to ascribe to malevolence. I'm not saying they are nessesarily evil, I am saying they are unreliable. Their attitude to fixing their broken and insecure software (whatever proportion of it you think fits that description) is poor to non-existant, and getting worse. And if they arent going to take the US government seriously (DoJ) then we know they dont even care about any other government, once the licence fees have been paid up.

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  2. linux by sireenmalik · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My first real experience with LINUX came at the Uni of Stuttgart. Almost every lab/computer pool is running linux. I am sure other Unis here in Germany are doing the same. I dont want to flame but i recall the remarks of one German that a **** system like Windows would never be made in Germany, its too unstable. I can only agree with him as i see the Germans's passion for precision, stability and quality. You decide which OS come naturally to their minds.

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  3. Re:Poor Bill? by Saint+Fnordius · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Swedish government? Porting the Mac to x86? Huh?

    First off, the first link points to a Swedish news site (instead of German newswires like Stern or Heise), but the debate is raging in Germany. Microsoft was taken off guard by this petition, and by the amount of support it has been receiving. Thus the "wounded bear" attitude in Microsoft's open letter.

    Second, this is about Linux on existing computers, a market Apple definitely does NOT want to enter. Apple makes hardware, and writes its own interface above Darwin/FreeBSD. In Apple's eyes, the OS is only there to sell its own hardware, not for profit. But this isn't the place to beat THAT horse carcass.

    Third, AFAICT the only one seeing this as a War is Microsoft. Microsoft is playing a Monopoly/Risk sort of game, where the winner drives all other players from the board. Apple is playing a totally different game, one where you win by being the best/coolest/owning the McGuffin. Linux advocates are sometimes playing one game, sometimes playing the other, but rarely do Linux users/advocates all play the game, or the same rules, or share the same goals.

    I personally find the goal of the petition worth supporting. My personal taste runs towards Apple, but I'm willing to see the massive benefits of using existing hardware (if for no other reason than to save landfill space). And Linux is, at the moment, the best option.
    Oh, some links to other reports, in German:

    Stern:
    http://www2.stern.de/computer-netze/news/topnews /i ndex_45450.html

    Spiegel:
    http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/politik/0,1518,18 02 42,00.html
    http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/politik/0,1518,18 09 33,00.html

    Heise Online:
    http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/odi-01.02.02 -0 04/

  4. Why you should not trust'em by AftanGustur · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The chances may be slim, and a conspiracy theory involved, but still, this is a good reason not to trust Microsoft.

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  5. Goose - Gander Time. by sallen · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What's that old cliche`..what's good for the goose is good for the danger?

    I find it interesting MS is going so far as to be saying they're being discriminated against by comments made about Microsoft.

    Wasn't it fairly recently Ballmer and those of his ilk in the MS empire were saying Linux / open software was 'unamerican' and 'communist'?? They oviously don't mind criticizing when they're playing hardball or violating antitrust laws but if they're on the end of the comments, they're so offended and being discriminated against.

    Speaking of anti-trust laws. Though convicted, have they yet said 'gee, guess we did it.' or so much as 'sorry'. I don't believe they yet acknowledge it, even to themselves. Guess that's why I have little use for them.

  6. Rationale why "Every government...." by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Ok, let's enumerate the advantages

    Source is open, no sneaky CIA or Microsoft or script kiddies spying on formative legislation, intelligence, etc.

    Saves big zorkmids on license fees (the tender spot for M$, government is a HUGE customer and can establish the trend for business and education software standards used, see all those zorkmids departing the pocketbook)

    Costs some zorkmids for support and mods, but you actually get support and mods you want, rather that support and mods the closed vendor feels like providing you, creating competition in the support market (a GoodThing)

    Built-in extortion of government having to "upgrade" (and shell out really big zorkmids) every few years for upgrades because M$ announces it will no longer support Windows n

    Customer driven market. What the customer wants/needs isn't anticipated (and turned out in an incarnationof one-size-fits all), but tailored to the needs of the customer. If the Bundestag says "we want x that does y, in z way, then someone can step up and do it, it may take time, but of course others can benefit as it adds to open source.

    As to suggestions that open source isn't good quality or pracicable (muchly as part of M$ whispering campaign against Linux, Open Source, etc.), much of that would be addressed by an expanding market.

    If it succeeds, props to the Bundestag, way to show some moxie!

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  7. Reply to Microsoft's Letter from a German MoP by Cynical_Dude · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A German Member of Parliament replied to Microsoft Germany's letter.

    Original (German)

    Google translation