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Australian Commisssion Defends Playstation Mod-Chipping

newt writes "The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC) is intervening in a court case to defend Sony Playstation owners' right to modify their consoles to play imported games. The ACCC is submitting a friend of the court brief, arguing that Sony's regional playback controls are unlawful. This has implications for DVD region zoning too: The ACCC has previously published its concerns about DVD regioning, and its latest press release about this case reiterates the problems presented to Australian consumers by Sony's practices."

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  1. Australian sense by Penrod+Pooch · · Score: 1, Insightful
  2. Why? by gillbates · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The more I think about it, the more it seems that the United States is the only industrialized country which actively takes rights away from its own citizens.

    It would seem that the U.S. is no longer the defender of the free world - for a country which values freedom so much, we are doing less than others to protect it. Why is it that Australia, the EU, and Russia (yes, our former enemy) are going to bat to defend the liberties of individual citizens while our government is actively taking them away?

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    1. Re:Why? by starduste · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm not sure of the other countries, but in Australia, we have no rights given to us in the Constitution. Therefore, we have hundreds of civil groups, telling us *why* it's important the government does not take away our freedom. On the other hand, in America, those groups simply claim that the government can't do that (whatever that may be) because of the Constitution - hence some people simply say "oh well, doesn't seem too important anyway". Because we are constantly told why it's important in Australia, we value those freedoms much more, and create a huge uproar when politicians try and take it away.

  3. Call me stupid, but... by lorcha · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... when I purchase a piece of hardware, can't I do whatever I want with it? Recognizing that it might void the warranty, of course...

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  4. Whats the point of region limitations anyway? by deviantonline · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I have never really understodd this. Why do video games and dvd's only play in certain parts of the world? What is the rationelle behind this?

    As far as I know, VHS can be played everywhere (pal/ntsc versions) and computer software isnt limited to specific regions, so why are DVDs and Video Games?

    Anything else limited this way? I can understand that diffrent countries have diffrent ratings and what not, but the fact that digital formats can block usage in diffrent regions of the world seems like a backwards thing to be doing in this time of freedom and what not.

    1. Re:Whats the point of region limitations anyway? by Teun · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No it does not make sense, nobody forced the US studio's to release their movies 6-12 months later in other countries.
      This has no influence what so ever on the income of the studio's.

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    2. Re:Whats the point of region limitations anyway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Except that it may take that long to subtitle, edit, and generally prepare the movie for foreign markets.

      Maybe they should sit on the movie until they've readied it for all markets and then release simultaneously? Just like software, right?

    3. Re:Whats the point of region limitations anyway? by Howie · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How many of them are actually using imports? In 99% of all cases, the mod chip is used to play pirated games.

      Actually, in the case of the PS2 there are huge delays between a game's release in the US and other markets... Final Fantasy X, Metal Gear Solid 2 and Ico are all games I would play as imports, since I still can't buy them in the UK even though they came out in the US last year. I don't give a rat's arse about DVD playback, since I have a perfectly decent DVD player that doesn't require a game pad, and is already multi-region.

      Your argument that DVD imports stop the studio from arbitrarily delaying the release of movies is at best circular, by the way. Harry Potter and LOTR both show that studios can release simultaneously worldwide if they want to.

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  5. Australia, prepare for our wrath! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Given what the U.S. did to the Ukraine recently, I wouldn't be surprised if success by the ACCC would eventually find Australia up against sanctions. If the mod chips are allowed, then dvd region encoding will have a much easier time being banned or legally cracked in Australia. Any government that bans or allows cracks of region-encoding is circumventing the DMCA and even though the DMCA isn't international law you can be damn sure we're going to protect ourselves from terrorists like those in Australia. USA! USA! (Come on, chant with me...) Attica! Attica! I mean... USA! USA!

  6. DVD region encoding [only slightly OT] by bovril · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I wonder how long DVD region encoding would've lasted if it was the USofA that had to wait months for titles to be released (if at all)?

    I want my Hollywood revisionist history epics now, dammit!!!!

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  7. Re:This is +5 Insightful? by Mandelbrute · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I don't know where I'd be without pedantic generalizations.
    Probably in the same place - you missed the word "some" - so much for a generalisation!

    entire generations spending billions of dollars promoting democracies all over the globe
    Yes, from the Halls of Montezuma to the Shores of Tripoli - global police for nearly two hundred years. I think this is straying wildly off the modchip topic!

    In Australia, we don't tend to talk about "God Given Rights", we know that we don't have a right to remain silent - so when someone comes along to take away what we do have, even if it is just the ability to play games for the US market, then a lot of people take notice.

    Just don't come here by boat - we'll send you somewhere else or lock you up in the desert!

  8. Re:Australia? You've got to be kidding. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    > the ACCC - a government-funded but independent body that never gets listened to, except by the media.

    You've got to be joking! The ACCC has been solely responsible for killing several telco price rises, preventing corporate mergers when a monopoly/oligopoly situation could result, keeping health fund prices down (currently under review again), reducing the price of music CDs, removing duties on blank recording media, and allowing parallel importing of software. I'm sure there's more, but that's enough off the top of my head to make the point

    Whether they're right or wrong, they're certainly getting listened to by the present government!

  9. At least somewhere gets it right by _Shad0w_ · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sometimes it seems Australia is the only place that actually has a good stance on the various region protection systems and copyrights. Shame they go and screw it all up with their censorship laws.

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  10. I wouldn't consider Australia better than the US by Trepidity · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...in this regard. Sure, they're on the "right side" in this one particular case. But Grand Theft Auto 3 is illegal in Australia, while it's the best-selling PS2 game in the U.S., where it's perfectly legal.

  11. DVD delay argument doesn't make sense by Nice2Cats · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Region coding does make sense with DVDs. You see, there's often a long delay before US movies are released in other countries.

    That would make sense if only new DVDs come out with regional encoding, but my copy of "Alien" here - which was released quite a while back - is limited to Code 2. Everything gets coded, ancient or still on the big screen. This makes the "delay" argument look kinda silly.

    I mean, people are bitching about how their rights are being taken away and everything, but let's face it: How many of them are actually using imports?

    In Europe (somewhat more than 360 million people, I should point out), a lot of people. This is because there is a greater selection of DVDs in the U.S. than in Europe. Also, some DVDs are in German translation only ("Flash Gordon", the new version with Queen's music, is one of them). And third and most important, DVDs from different countries are censored in different ways. Europeans (especially Germans) take out the violence (the German version of "Fight Club" is somewhat of a joke), while the U.S. has this problem with nudity and sex ("Color of Night" is one that comes to mind).

    If you want to see the film the way the director intended, sooner or later you're going to have to import you stuff.