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Inside Intel

z71offroad writes: "There is a really interesting article at Anandtech right now showing what goes on inside Intel Labs. Although it doesnt break any NDAs, it is still a facinating look at what goes on inside the chip giant's labs."

167 comments

  1. fr1st p1st by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Let's hear it for the ACs!

    1. Re:fr1st p1st by Serial+Troller · · Score: -1

      Linux. You know what? NO ONE CARES. Linux is a gigantic piece of SLOP. It's like a LOG OF DOGSHIT floating in cat urine. A stinking LOG OF DOGSHIT covered in maggots floating in cat urine. It crashes. It OOPSES. It locks up, it hangs, it randomly corrupts my FUCKING filesystem. I'd rather have my TESTICLES TORN OFF with a hot pair of serrated pliers than run Linux on my FUCKING computer again! It's an absolute pile of SLOP dribbled out of LINUS TURDBALLS's and ANAL COX's cocks during one of their HOMOSEXUAL FAGGOT ORGIES.

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  2. Help! I'm stuck in jail! by Slobodan+Milosevic · · Score: -1

    Please? Get me out?

  3. First post ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    ... to say "don't they all wear bunny suits?"

    1. Re:First post ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      I think you will find this is (Score:5 Funny) and not (Score:-1 Offtopic)

    2. Re:First post ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
      It was probably some dickless AMD bigot. Hey, AMD bigot! I hear AMD copied the Cyrix PR rating!

      ~~~

  4. Flying High Again by The+Lyrics+Guy · · Score: -1

    Ozzy Osbourne - Flying High Again

    Got a crazy feeling I don't understand
    'Gotta get away from here
    Feelin' like I shoulda kept my feet on the ground
    Waitin' for the sun to appear

    Mamma's gonna worry
    I been a bad bad boy
    No use sayin' sorry
    It's something that I enjoy

    'Cause you can't see what my eyes see
    (I can see it, I can see it)
    And you can't be inside of me, flying high again

    I can see through the mountains watch me disappear
    I can even touch the sky
    Swallowing colours of the sound I hear
    Am I just a crazy guy. (You bet).

    Mamma's gonna worry
    I been a bad bad boy
    No use sayin' sorry
    It's something that I enjoy

    If you could be inside my head
    You'd see that black and white is read
    Flying high again [x 4]
    Come on and join me.

    Flying high again [x 4]
    Come on and join me.

    Daddy thinks I'm lazy he don't understand
    Never saw inside my head
    People think I'm crazy but I'm in demand
    Never heard a thing I said.

    Mamma's gonna worry
    I been a bad bad boy
    No use sayin' sorry
    It's something that I enjoy

    Flying high again [x 4]

  5. Karma Suicide!! by jeffy124 · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    After 600+ posts and 20 articles, my karma has been peaked at 50 for what seems like forever now. My new campaign: Karma Suicide!! Every post from now until my karma's back at zero will be this short crapflood posted with my +1 bonus (which i've lost already). So moderators: Do your worst! You got only 14 more points to go! Mod me troll/OT/Overrated/Whatever to get my karma back to where it began. Do this ASAP! And as for the rest of you, commit karma suicide today!

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    1. Re:Karma Suicide!! by J.D.+Hogg · · Score: -1, Offtopic
      "After 600+ posts and 20 articles, my karma has been peaked at 50 for what seems like forever now. My new campaign: Karma Suicide!!"

      So, this means that you're an idiot doubly : it took you 550+ post to realize there is a karma cap, *and* you're now another troll that I have to download messages from and waste my bandwith with, so I can also read the few interesting posts at +1.

      Have you considered real suicide ?

    2. Re:Karma Suicide!! by Ralph+Malph+Alpha · · Score: -1

      oh this is shameful. you are getting moderated up by dmussases. i DO NOT THINK these people understand what is at stake here. they should stop and think ABOUT what they ARE doing.

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    3. Re:Karma Suicide!! by Phosphor3k · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Read your post. Methinks you are the troll.

      Mod him down boys!

    4. Re:Karma Suicide!! by I+Think+You'll+Find · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      I think you'll find that all moderators have read the Slashdot Moderation guide before starting moderating and are not, in fact, dmussases.

    5. Re:Karma Suicide!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      God I hate "mod parent down/up/across" posts...
      I wish I had not waisted my last two mod points now so I could of mod ya ass down...

      Yeah mod me down, see if I care. It does not hurt my karma, and I'm posting AC so bugger all else will read me anyhow!

      MOD PARENT DOWN, FOR BEING A PRAT

    6. Re:Karma Suicide!! by Phosphor3k · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Mod that guy down for being a "Mod the guy who said 'mod that guy down'" poster. He deserves it. Really.

    7. Re:Karma Suicide!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For the love of God, mod parent SIDEWAYS!

    8. Re:Karma Suicide!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you're now another troll that I have to download messages from and waste my bandwith with

      Dude, if that's the problem, just mark this guy as a foe of you and set your prefs to subtract points from the foes...

    9. Re:Karma Suicide!! by Ralph+Malph+Alpha · · Score: -1

      you are the biggest dmssuaa of them all. a tip of the foreskin to I Think You'll Find, the latest pcartitionar of the POSTING ARTZ! TO THE POSTING ARTZ! PROPZ!!

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  6. This looks like first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    but I don't think it is.

    1. Re:This looks like first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      I think you will find this is (Score:-1 Offtopic) and not (Score:-1 Troll)

  7. Interesting by greening · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I would like to have something like this in my house just to scare people who come over. Its almost my dream.

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    Are you telling me that you don't see the connection between government and laughing at people? - Interviewer
    1. Re:Interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is the nest that a 10GHZ processor lives in!

    2. Re:Interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      "Hey Bob! What the hell's that?"
      "Oh... Makin' Daleks"

    3. Re:Interesting by Sarcasm_Orgasm · · Score: -1

      I'd use it for strange and wonderful sexual adventures. It'd take me awhile to not cum in my pants as I walked past the 10ghz of raw throbbing power though. To scare people I'd use that home loan advertisment to the left of the article.

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  8. Man... by junkster191 · · Score: 0, Funny

    I was all excited about this "insider's look" into the "behind-the-scenes" happenings in the silicone industry, but it looks like this is really just some company that makes computers or something. Man...

    Not even a single supermodel or anything! :(

    1. Re:Man... by sam_handelman · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Jeez, lazy, aren't you.

      Their "customer service team is anxious to hear from you." Call them up and ask them about boobies. You know you want to. Here's an insider look.

      Anyway, breast implants are usually not filled with silicone. They're filled with saline solution or with soybean oil.

      --
      The good and new comes from no quarter where it is looked for, and is always something different from what is expected.
    2. Re:Man... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      I was really looking forward to getting into your mom's pants, but unfortunately that bitches herpes flared up again. COuld you please make her go to the doctor to get some medication. All im looking to do is perform some cunnilingus. Really ill be doing her a favor. Im sure no one has been willing to touch that bitch for a long time. Basically she's a slut that cant get any, which is rather pathetic. Even worse, I cant go in her butt. Im not sure if she cant reach, or she just doesnt like to wipe, but i havent seen a hole that brown in my entire life. I would also guess this is part of the reason for her chronic herpes flare ups. By the way did you see the Hun's joke the other day:
      How is oral sex different from anal sex?
      oral: itll make your whole day
      anal: itll make your hole weak

      HA! thats some funny shit. http://www.thehun.net they have a funny new joke every day, and if she ever cleans up maybe some pics of your mom too.

    3. Re:Man... by mgblst · · Score: 1

      To view this article in one page, try this...

      http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.html?i=1584

      Should we feel guilty about this tho, since they write such good articles, and miss out on add revenue?

  9. AFOAF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    A friend of a friend works for Intel. He likes it there.

    1. Re:AFOAF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      I think you will find this is (Score:5 Interesting) and not (Score:-1 Offtopic)

    2. Re:AFOAF by Serial+Troller · · Score: -1

      Linux. You know what? NO ONE CARES. Linux is a gigantic piece of SLOP. It's like a LOG OF DOGSHIT floating in cat urine. A stinking LOG OF DOGSHIT covered in maggots floating in cat urine. It crashes. It OOPSES. It locks up, it hangs, it randomly corrupts my FUCKING filesystem. I'd rather have my TESTICLES TORN OFF with a hot pair of serrated pliers than run Linux on my FUCKING computer again! It's an absolute pile of SLOP dribbled out of LINUS TURDBALLS's and ANAL COX's cocks during one of their HOMOSEXUAL FAGGOT ORGIES.

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    3. Re:AFOAF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah? Well, I work for Intel, and I like it here, too. Not in IAL, but I do work at Intel.

    4. Re:AFOAF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean CTG? ;) Yeah I work in the labs here, and I love it. And the marketing guys DO NOT dictate any of our dates. Unless our lab is wierd and different from the other labs at intel, we like to keep our marketing guys on a leash. I think just the product groups have the marketing driven dates. The labs don't... At least not ours.

  10. here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Take a look inside Intel.

    1. Re:here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      I think you will find this is (Score:-1 Flamebait) and not (Score:-1 Troll)

    2. Re:here by Ralph+Malph+Alpha · · Score: -1

      you should really create an account so that we can keep track of your +5 insightful insights.

      the more crap accounts you create, the better.

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    3. Re:here by I+Think+You'll+Find · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      I think you'll find that I do now have an account. Thank you for your interest.

  11. Sure! by Ralph+JewHater+Nader · · Score: -1

    Alright, if I get you out of prison, will you promise to massacre some jews as well as towelheads? I'm talking genocide!

    --

    1. Re:Sure! by Ralph+Malph+Alpha · · Score: -1

      As for me, I do not promise to do this.

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  12. Linux? Why, dammit!! It's SLOP!! by Serial+Troller · · Score: -1

    Linux. You know what? NO ONE CARES. Linux is a gigantic piece of SLOP. It's like a LOG OF DOGSHIT floating in cat urine. A stinking LOG OF DOGSHIT covered in maggots floating in cat urine. It crashes. It OOPSES. It locks up, it hangs, it randomly corrupts my FUCKING filesystem. I'd rather have my TESTICLES TORN OFF with a hot pair of serrated pliers than run Linux on my FUCKING computer again! It's an absolute pile of SLOP dribbled out of LINUS TURDBALLS's and ANAL COX's cocks during one of their HOMOSEXUAL FAGGOT ORGIES.

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    STOP ME BEFORE I POST AGAIN!

  13. Intel Inside stickers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Has anyone seen the Linux inside stickers?
    or the Satan inside ones?
    even "Designed for Windows ME"?

    1. Re:Intel Inside stickers by Pontiac · · Score: 1

      Yes.. the one we had posted in the Dupont Labs was Evil Inside..

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    2. Re:Intel Inside stickers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm looking for a "Designed for Windows XP" sticker to paste on my toilet. :-P

  14. Official 9-11 Story A Lie by Commienst · · Score: -1

    Russian Air Force Chief Says
    Official 9-11 Story Impossible

    [Posted 13 September 2001]

    As one considers the terrible events of Sept. 11 and observes U.S. media reaction, so pervasive and consistently military that it appears choreographed, doubts increase. The following is from pravda.ru, a Russian language Website (politically centrist, nationalist). In some places the English translation is confusing, so we added alternate phrasing in brackets.
    - Jared Israel

    [Start report from Russia] "Generally it is impossible to carry out an act of terror on the scenario which was used in the USA yesterday." This was said by the commander-in-chief of the Russian Air Force, Anatoli Kornukov. "We had such facts [i.e., events or incidents] too", - said the general straightforwardly. Kornukov did not specify what happened in Russia and when and to what extent it resembled the events in the US. He did not advise what was the end of air terrorists' attempts either.

    But the fact the general said that means a lot. As it turns out the way the terrorists acted in America is not unique. The notification and control system for the air transport in Russia does not allow uncontrolled flights and leads to immediate reaction of the anti-missile defense, Kornukov said. "As soon as something like that happens here, I am reported about that right away and in a minute we are all up," - said the general. [End report from Russia.]

    Pasted from: The Emperor's New Clothes

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    I am into the copy and paste.
    1. Re:Official 9-11 Story A Lie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      historically, communist russia has had little regard for the lives of the proletariat. Mass graves, life sentences to siberia, and secret police taking away citizens in the middle of the night were as prevalent as goatse.cx trolls on slashdot. And with a state-run media, only those who witnessed such events forst hand would know of them (and would keep quiet for fear of retribution). So it's not surprising that a Russian Airforce Commander (who lived most of his life under communism, and was clasiically trained) would not think twice about shooting down a civilian airliner. Besides, most russians look forward to death in order to escape their dreary lives.

      In the united states, however, life is more highly regarded (except for the unborn, since abortion is no different than using a condom), so prior to 9/11/01, shooting down a commercial aircraft full of passengers that had been hijacked would have caused a national uproar, a dozen congressional hearings, and rioting.

      Post 9/11, we all realize that destroying a plane and killing all on board is a better solution than watching a hijacked plane crash into a building, killing all on board as well as thousands of others, something the Pennsylvania passengers realized as well.

      Considering that Russia has gotten their asses kicked by just about everyone (chechnya, China, Afghanistan, Germany, etc), their bravado is most interesting.

  15. Misconception by J.D.+Hogg · · Score: 3, Funny
    "The name Intel is synonymous with silicon"

    No, it's synonymous with silicom.999999999999

    1. Re:Misconception by Ch_Omega · · Score: 1

      "No, it's synonymous with silicom.999999999999

      Heheheh..! I needed that! ;D
      If any of you moderators where around when intel released the first Pentiums around 93, you know what to do with those moderation points! =)

  16. Some Crazy Train! by Commienst · · Score: -1

    Artist:Ozzy Osbourne
    Song:Crazy Train

    Crazy,but that's how it goes
    Millions of people living as foes
    Maybe it's not too late
    To learn how to love
    And forget how to hate
    Mental wounds not healing
    Life's a bitter shame
    I'm going off the rails on a crazy train
    I've listened to preachers
    I've listened to fools
    I've watched all the dropouts
    Who make their own rules
    One person conditioned to rule and control
    The media sells it and you live the role
    Mental wounds still screaming
    Driving me insane
    I'm going off the rails on a crazy train
    I know that things are going wrong for me
    You gotta listen to my words
    Yeh-h
    Heirs of a cold war
    That's what we've become
    Inheriting troubles I'm mentally numb
    Crazy, I just cannot bear
    I'm living with something that just isn't fair
    Mental wounds not healing
    Who and what's to blame
    I'm going off the rails on a crazy train

    --

    I am into the copy and paste.
  17. at Intel by global_diffusion · · Score: 5, Funny

    doesn't everyone just breakdance in radiation suits all day?

    1. Re:at Intel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      I think you will find this is (Score:-1 Redundant)

    2. Re:at Intel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no, they play with sock puppet monkeys.

    3. Re:at Intel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Those are clean-room suits, not radiation suits.

    4. Re:at Intel by Decimal · · Score: 2

      No, they dress up like the Blue Man Group and think up innovative ways of painting the walls blue.

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      Remember "Bring 'em on"? *sigh
    5. Re:at Intel by global_diffusion · · Score: 1

      yeah, I agree. After I posted this I saw the 7billion other similar jokes.

  18. Intel's approach by drink85cent · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think Intel does need to jump off it's approach to sales by clock speed.


    Maybe instead of constantly worrying about clock speeds they spend more research into being able to add larger amounts of cache or try to achieve one clock cycle access to main memory

    Yes chips will most likely continue to follow moore's law but computers are not much faster now than 2 years ago

    what their worries should be

    • Improve memory speed
    • Make instruction set more efficient (ie make alu more efficient, the intel is no RISC)
    • reduce production costs
    1. Re:Intel's approach by Rebel+Patriot · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I agree. The reason the Athlon proccesors are so much faster in benchmarks isn't the clock-speed, but the memory bottle-neck. Athlon's run with half the level2 cache yet they still are faster. Why? 233 MHz front-side bus speed.

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    2. Re:Intel's approach by WetCat · · Score: 2, Insightful
      ... and return to olde yet golde approach: Intel 80686... intel 80786 ... intel 80986 ... intel 801086...

      Seriously, I liked that approach!

    3. Re:Intel's approach by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No kidding. Intel seems to be obsessed with upping clock speed and preserving the horrible x86 instruction set as though all anyone needs is a faster beige box to run games under one of those crappy microsoft "operating systems".

      I hated having a fan in the power supply. Then they made me put one on the processor. Now I see that I may have to put a heat sink on the memory. Is this really the way to go?

    4. Re:Intel's approach by Toraz+Chryx · · Score: 2, Redundant

      moderators: Why is this informative when it's wrong?

      the Althon has a double pumped 133Mhz bus (equivalent bandwidth to a normal 266Mhz bus)

      the P4 on the other hand, has a QUAD pumped 100Mhz bus (equivalent to a normal 400Mhz bus)

      there's a reason the P4 lays the smack down in memory benchmarks guys... ('tis a shame it sits around doing nothing with the data it actually gets from memory though :)

      Althons are faster because the core itself is MUCH faster per clock, lets see..

      P4 x87 FPU = single execution unit
      Althon x87 FPU = THREE execution units

      the Althon is something of a brute force design, but it's an ELEGANT brute force design :)

    5. Re:Intel's approach by s390 · · Score: 5, Informative

      The reason the Athlon proccesors are so much faster in benchmarks isn't the clock-speed, but the memory bottle-neck. Athlon's run with half the level2 cache yet they still are faster. Why? 233 MHz front-side bus speed.

      Bzzzt, wrong! Athlons are faster in terms of useful work done per clock because they have a shorter instruction pipeline. Thus their branch mispredict penalty is lower and they have a higher instruction-throughput-rate (ITR) than Intel chips of equal clock speed. Other factors (exclusive L1/L2 cache, lower memory latency, better die space allocation to ALUs and FPUs) influence AMD's higher performance too, but this is the main one. It's just a better balanced processor design, and it certainly yields higher performance for price.

      BTW, current DDR memory speed is 2 x 133 Mhz = 266 Mhz, not 233 Mhz.

    6. Re:Intel's approach by Toraz+Chryx · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'd argue that the weak IPC (especially FP) has more to do with the P4's weakass floating point execution unit than the length of the pipeline, yes, branch mispredicts to hurt performance, but the performance they are hurting isn't all that high anyway :/

    7. Re:Intel's approach by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I think Intel does need to jump off it's approach to sales by clock speed."

      Finding a good balance between ILP and clock speeds is extremely hard. I tend to agree that P4's pipeline is a bit too deep. I am not sure if they decided to make it such purely because of marketing reasons.

      "Maybe instead of constantly worrying about clock speeds they spend more research into being able to add larger amounts of cache or try to achieve one clock cycle access to main memory"

      Of course, and I'm sure they are indeed working very hard to improve L1 and L2 cache sizes and speeds. The upcoming McKinley will have 3 MB of L3 cache on die! Pretty impressive if you ask me. I'm not sure what you mean by "one clock cycle access to main memory". Are you talking about the CPU clock? If so, you obviously have no idea how DRAMs work. But if you know how to accomplish something like that, quickly, patent the idea. You will become super-rich and win at least one Nobel prize.

      "Improve memory speed"
      In case you're talking about main memories, you should know that Intel is not a DRAM developer. If you're talking about on-die cache memories you can be assured that Intel is working very hard to improve it.

      "Make instruction set more efficient (ie make alu more efficient, the intel is no RISC)"
      Well, yes and no. Modern x86 CPUs do, in fact, have RISC cores. They also have giant decoders that decode x86 instructions and break them into RISC instructions (so-called micro-instructions). This, of course, does add to the overhead. Hence IA-64.

      "reduce production costs"
      Heh, no offense, but that sounds like Dilbert's boss comment: "We need to reduce production costs and increase efficiency". :)

    8. Re:Intel's approach by Apostrophe+Police · · Score: 0

      I think Intel does need to jump off it's approach to sales by clock speed.

      Hey, loser -- learn how to punctuate.

    9. Re:Intel's approach by bentini · · Score: 2

      Unfortunately, at least two of your goals are counterproductive. Memory sucks. It's the bottleneck in modern systems. How then do you get around it? Transfer less data from memory into cache. If you think about it, however, RISC went against this. The designers of RISC (one of whom is the president of my university, I hold no ill will) saw that Memory was becoming so big that code size doesn't matter. Well, now it does. With a CISC instruction set, you can move a lot less data from memory into your instruction cache.
      Looks like there are advantages to CISC, huh?
      This is why, for instance, the JVM has variable-length byte-codes.
      And production costs are pretty low, just not for the latest and greatest. Most of the costs of the latest and greatest, however, more so than production is IP.
      And how would you suggest that Intel, as a processor/chipset manufacturer improve memory speed? they don't have the resources (mainly intellectual) to contribute much.
      Also, faster clockspeeds seem to be working for Intel. Obviously the P4 isn't great yet, but it has at least one killer feature (hyperthreading/SMT) turned off yet. And it's scaling more incredibly than any processor we've seen before.
      -Dan

    10. Re:Intel's approach by Toraz+Chryx · · Score: 1

      It's scaling well in clockspeed, the 2.2Ghz Northwood is barely faster than the 1.67Ghz AlthonXP though...

      so I'd argue that it's not scaling quite so well for performance.

    11. Re:Intel's approach by akuma(x86) · · Score: 1

      Thanks for your "insightful" advice.

      Do you not think that with close to $30 billion a year at stake, Intel's engineer's just might have considered those things and optimized them to the Nth frickin degree?

      They optmize profit, and they do a damn good job of it. I would imagine that the profit equation has hundereds, if not thousands of parameters that are wildy complex and interrelated.

    12. Re:Intel's approach by AlgUSF · · Score: 1

      I think if they stop with the stupid ads (Blue Men, Aliens, etc.), they might be able to put a little more money into R&D, and be able to drop their prices a bit. AMD is actually looking like a better deal than Intel more and more everyday.

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    13. Re:Intel's approach by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What Intel (and AMD, etc.) need to worry about is their chips' unending quest to become electric heaters! Too much cost and design effort must go to keeping your P4 cool and supplied with power (at ever-more-demanding tolerance limits). Apply that 2GHz technology to an _under_ clocked 1GHz system with reduced core voltages, and it will still fly (but not fry!). If the speed loss bugs you that much, load up Slackware instead of that bloated every-bug-you-never-wanted OS.

  19. Intel Labs by topside420 · · Score: 5, Informative
    You can get much of this info (and more), plus related info on Intel's labs by visiting the Intel Labs website.

    It has some pretty interesting info regarding what goes on around Intel.

    Did we really need a /. article on this?

    1. Re:Intel Labs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Do we really need a /. article on most of the things that show up as /. articles????

    2. Re:Intel Labs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      which is more boring, the shitty /. article, or the /. troll that posts about how dull the shitty /. article is?

      Answers on a postcard to:
      The Supreme Master Of The World, King Gates
      Microsoft Palace
      USA

  20. Unrelated Story by rayamor · · Score: -1

    In other unrelated news today, AMD engineers were caught lifting a giant object from Intel's lab. Camera man caught special footage of the object here.

  21. They left off two by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Initially there were two other focus areas for the R&D team,
    but that was before they decided to get rid of the dancing guys
    in the shiny bunny outfits.

    1)Performance
    2)Power
    3)Integrity
    4)Functionality
    5)Tools and Methods
    6)Originality
    7)Choreography

    1. Re:They left off two by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      I think you will find this is (Score:-1 Redundant )

    2. Re:They left off two by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1)Performance
      2)Power
      3)Integrity
      4)Functionality
      5)Tools and Methods
      6)Originality
      7)Choreography

      Say, sounds like a daft punk song waiting to happen :)

  22. Well, that's Itanium, and see what it got them... by mbessey · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Basically, Itanium was designed to address the "efficiency" issue, as well as enabling faster turnaround on new designs with a simpler core.

    We all know how that turned out, don't we? Fundamentally, Intel is trapped by their own success. They haven't successfully introduced a really new architecture since the i860/i960, and that was YEARS ago.

    People don't want "efficient" ot "elegant" processors. They want MegaHertz.

    -Mark

  23. The main problem with Intel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is they didn't upgrade the Blue Men at the same time as the Pentium.

  24. Re:Help! I'm stuck in jail! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    My choice for a career would be Pharmacist. I would like to have the
    job of Pharmacist because a Pharmacist is not only a provider of
    services to the Community, he is also a beloved Member. If I were a
    Pharmacist, I would fill people's prescriptions, also plus I would
    check to see if there would be any medicines they shouldn't take
    because of cross-reactions.

    If I had the job of Pharmacist, I would make the effort to get to know
    all of my customers and learn details about their personal lives so we
    could make small talk, not counting the ones that only come in once or
    twice of course! Also plus too, I could develop little running jokes
    with some of them and build on them every time they came in. Like say
    for instance there was a guy who was a little overweight, but was a
    good sport about it, I would call him "Slim," and every time I saw
    him, I would say, "Hey Slim, we need to put some meat on your bones!
    For Pete's sake, eat something!" And he would say, "DAVIDHERO, you
    old so-and-so, who has time to eat? Gimme a refill of that Slow-K,
    also one of the Procardin. How's business?" Then I would say, "Fine,
    did you ever get that driveway patched?" And we'd probably go back
    and forth like that for a little while. Then when there wasn't
    anthing else really to say, he would pay me using Cash or Credit Card,
    or another approved method of payment.

    DID YOU KNOW: A pharmacist is a man or woman who prepares, stores,
    compounds, and dispenses medicine! To be a Pharmacist I would have to
    attend College.

    In conclusion, my choice for a career is Pharmacist.

    Respectfully submitted by,

    David Hero

  25. Conspirators will be shot by Ralph+JewHater+Nader · · Score: -1

    Damn jewlovers will die next to their kike buddies.

    --

    1. Re:Conspirators will be shot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      you got bush elected... you happy now mr. ralph nader?
      are you happy now?

    2. Re:Conspirators will be shot by Ralph+JewHater+Nader · · Score: -1

      No. If you dumb fucks voted for me instead all the kikes and niggers would be dead by now. Jewloving bastards. All of you crave black cock.

      --

  26. Alan Thicke. DEAD. by Alan_Thicke · · Score: -1
    I just heard the sad news on CBC radio. Comedy actor/writer Alan Thicke was found dead in his home this morning. Even if you never liked his work, you can appreciate what he did for 80's television. Truly a Canadian icon.
    He will be missed :(



    Show me That Smile (The Growing Pains Theme Song):

    Show me that smile again.
    Ooh show me that smile.
    Don't waste another minute on your crying.
    We're nowhere near the end.
    We're nowhere near.
    The best is ready to begin.

    As long as we got each other
    We got the world
    Sitting right in our hands.
    Baby rain or shine;
    All the time.
    We got each other
    Sharing the laughter and love.

    --
    Alan Thicke's Journal
    My Slashdot ads say "
  27. My Slashdot Commenting Study by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Sorry, but I have to post this anonymously as I don't want to be moderated off-topic.

    My Slashdot Commenting Study

    1. Re:My Slashdot Commenting Study by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      I think you'll find that your study is ridiculous. You have no grasp of the fundamentals of data collection, data analysis, hypothesis or inference.

  28. My favorite picture by 4thAce · · Score: 5, Funny

    is the picture of the 10 GHz ALU test screen here. I just like the way they have the Windows Calculator next to the test screen, in order to check whether 2147483646 + 1 really is equal to 2147483647.

    --
    Inventor of the LOLbalrog meme.
    1. Re:My favorite picture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Good thing they didn't pick to compute 3.11 - 3.1.

      Hmm, maybe that's how the original Pentium got past QA!

    2. Re:My favorite picture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      God forbid they're using the same validation computer they used with the old p90's.

      Remember childen 1+1=7 and 10/0=9

    3. Re:My favorite picture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod the parent insightfull :)

  29. Re:Help! I'm stuck in jail! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Two words: Robert Courtney.

    ~~~

  30. Where do I sign up? by SrlKlr · · Score: 5, Funny

    The types of tests run in the CV labs range from network tests to playing games (which seemed to gather the majority of the CV engineers).

    All I gots to say is how do I become a CV Engineer. Getting payed to "test" the stability of chips during games.

    Uhh, no I dont think 20 hours of straight counter-strike is rigorous enough, we should do at least 20 more, for quality purpouses.

    No, seriously I need a job!

    1. Re:Where do I sign up? by mlk · · Score: 1

      Its called "Night Systems Admin"

      Do no work, play games all night ;-)

      /mlk

      --
      Wow, I should not post when knackered.
    2. Re:Where do I sign up? by nihilogos · · Score: 2

      Counter-Strike?

      lamer :)

      --
      :wq
    3. Re:Where do I sign up? by Avsen · · Score: 1

      Counterstrike? What counterstrike? Harry Potter seems to be the game of choice at Intel.

      --


      Massive networking attempt for friends

    4. Re:Where do I sign up? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      really want to know? Most of those guys (speaking from experience here) work a year at intel through CDI the temp agency. In fact I'd bet money that the one guy pictured in the lab is a temp. After one year they either get rid of you or maybe hire you on full time.

    5. Re:Where do I sign up? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wonder what company would pay for barbecueing and boozing outdoors in the winter..

  31. PR fluff dressed up as engineering cred by solferino · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Almost as absurd as the idea of Intel backing out of their IA-64 development in favor of x86-64 is the unfortunate perception that the world's largest desktop microprocessor manufacturer is not driven by engineering but rather by marketing.

    th very first sentence in this article states th perception th article is focussed on diminishing

    today we'll be showing you the Intel that doesn't care about anything outside of making fast, reliable and powerful circuits.

    really? - as a for-profit company, perhaps their shareholders might be interested in them making maximum profit as well?

    and who is this 'we' - only a single authour is mentioned at th top of th article - or perhaps his name has simply been appended to a pre-prepared puff piece?

    another example of rhetorical writing pulled from th first few paragraphs

    very talented engineers [who] are focused on pushing the limits of technology

    ok - there may be real information contained in this article - but frankly there were enough warning signals in th first few paragraphs to tell me my time was better spent elsewhere

    1. Re:PR fluff dressed up as engineering cred by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      and who is this 'we' - only a single authour is mentioned at th top of th article - or perhaps his name has simply been appended to a pre-prepared puff piece?

      Can't you tell? The author has a raging hard-on in his hand.

    2. Re:PR fluff dressed up as engineering cred by chas7926 · · Score: 1
      today we'll be showing you the Intel that doesn't care about anything outside of making fast, reliable and powerful circuits.

      I agree with the parent post on this. No one is in a for-profit business for the betterment of mankind. They do it to fatten their pockets. You just hope that they appreciate that doing quality work, and excelling in your field is the way to long term success. Marketing will always work in the short term, but eventually people begin to see through the wool, we hope.

      --
      Linux User #296508 Get Counted!
    3. Re:PR fluff dressed up as engineering cred by Road · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I hate to bring this up incase I reveal something to the uninitiated, but when you deleted the fnords in your post, you also deleted all the "e's" from every "the" in your post. Please be more careful next time.

      Usage: The "fnord" sink is full.

      Not: th sink is full. You just sound strange.

    4. Re:PR fluff dressed up as engineering cred by solferino · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      guess it's time to add one to th list

      fnord is th reason there's no 'e' in th word 'the'

    5. Re:PR fluff dressed up as engineering cred by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What th hell is wrong with your keyboard?

  32. More Hazards of Research by peepoh · · Score: -1

    "Hey, Dr. Bobkowicz. Did you want to talk about that new human-computer interaction experiment now?" "Actually, yes." "Hey, why do you have that aluminum bat?" Blackness. Then sharp pain on my forehead. I awoke to find myself naked and chained to a wall in a room that while it was similarly decorated (plain white walls, no windows, cheap, gray carpet and gray, rubber molding) to the lab, it wasn't a room I recognized. Dr. Bobkowicz returned with another person whose face I couldn't quite recognize. She was carrying a large object in her hands, although my vision was still too blurry to make out what it was. "Ah, I see you're awake now. Now I would like to talk about that new study. This time, my faithful assisstant, you are the subject." "I'm the subject? But I didn't sign any consent form for your BDSM fantasy! I -" "Ah, but I don't need your consent." "But, the IRB! And what are you holding?" "This? Oh, it's an electric shrub pruner, which brings us to the first phase of the experiment. I'm going to make you into a cyborg... running Windows XP!" "What?!? Fuck off, you horrible monster! This body bleeds seven colors!" By this point my vision was beginning to come back into focus and I really didn't like how she was brandishing that electric pruner, especially since I could now see all of its shiny, metallic, sharp teeth in perfect detail. "Yes, and I'm going to make some Windows in you so I can take a peek at all those processes occupying your CPU time! Ha ha! You're supposed to laugh at my little joke, flunky." At this point, her new assisstant, a large, balding 40's-ish man, erupted in forced laughter. "That's enough, Steve. Now then, first thing's first. You won't be needing that anymore..." Zzsst! Just like that, my dick was gone. "You bitch! I needed that to jack off with!" "Well, no more. Connect the serial port now!" "Serial port? But that's obsolete technology!" "Hmmph! Next you'll be trying to tell me that floppy drives are obsolete, too. Install the serial port, Steve." "No, no! The IRB will make you pay for this, bitch!" I couldn't bear to watch, so I blacked out. To be continued...

    --

    Life is a scam. - Steve McQue
  33. Re:Help! I'm stuck in jail! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    thanks for my very first troll

    but it's really offtopic

  34. Driven by the Engineers? by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 1

    All my buddies that work in Intel Engineering say is that the Marketing guys push the dates, scream for clockspeed and fudge the press press releases.

    Theres nothing interesting in this post, just a view from Portland about what I hear coming out of Jones Farm and Ronler Acres.

    Actually, the most revolutionary thing at Intel is the strides they are taking in the field of fab design.

    1. Re:Driven by the Engineers? by Technician · · Score: 2

      FYI, If you want to see it yourself firsthand, the openhouse is Saturday the 23rd of Febuary from 10:00 to 3:00. It includes a window tour of the new copper 300mm facility. You will be able to see the new class of automated material handeling. Wafers are no longer carried by hand. It's completely done by robots. Come watch it work. It's at the Ronlar Acres campus just off Cornelius Pass near the new Hillsboro stadium. It's on 229th and Evergreen Parkway. See you there.

      --
      The truth shall set you free!
  35. YOU ARE EDUCATED STUPID AND EVIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic


    NATURE'S HARMONIC
    SIMULTANEOUS 4DAY
    TIME CUBE

    Time Cube empowers wisdom above all gods and educators.
    I am the wisest human of all. Cubeless word allows the evil
    to rule and worthless to live. You've ignored the Time Cube
    and you shall suffer its curse,as did all the past civilizations.
    Prepare for a hell you created.Educators are teaching doom.
    I charge academia, religion, media and government with a
    criminal act of collusion and conspiracy against children.
    USA on a path to cannibalism.I plan to sue academic institutions for multi
    millions of dollars for their endangering the lives of children through brainwashing and
    indoctrination stupidity. I am seeking sharp attorney interested in a case that transcends
    the excitement of the Scopes Monkey Trial. Academia empowers stupidity,
    indicting educators criminal. Students must free their brain
    and organize as a power force to stop the plunder of Nature
    by word corrupted professors.

    Just as the clock face has 4 quarter corners, an Earth hemisphere has 4 quadrant corners.
    Those 4 different corners equate to 4 different Worlds, with each having its own separate day,
    own separate year and a separate human race.

    If only the dead people who god did not save,
    could return and give their opinion of a god.

    Every academic professor and
    teacher ignorant of the Time
    Cube Principle, is stupid, evil
    and unworthy of life on Earth,
    for they lead humanity down a
    path ending with cannibalism.
    Don't accept cubeless education
    that leads to apocalyptic doom,
    as it has led all past civilizations.

    Good news about the MIT lecture and the
    debate with Harvard and MIT representatives.
    The packed house of 500 could not have been
    better and they treated me as though I was
    Einstein. But we all know that Einstein was
    ignorant about the Time Cube. Stay tuned
    for coming video of the lecture and debate.
    God never appeared nor did any professors.
    Good thing, for if they had acknowledge the
    Time Cube and collected the $500.00 offer,
    they would have been fired. Students should
    demand that the Time Cube principle be
    taught, for humans are unworthy of life on
    Earth without its power of ineffable Truth.

    Word evil is fiction worship.
    Revelations for Omnific and
    Infinite Time Cube Creation,
    that equates ineffable Truth
    and the 'lost principle' of life.
    Cube unity voids 1 god entity.
    4corners void 1corner god.
    I bet you can't handle Truth.

    MIT is a religious institution.
    Only word makes you godly.
    Without word what are you?
    Without bible, where is god?
    Words are counterfeit values
    and languages mere fiction
    destroying every civilization.

    Earth composed of 4 Worlds.
    1 corner human knows but 1.
    Self is below the family form
    of 4corner metamorphosis.
    1 human equates 1 corner.
    Family is the creation body.
    Village is the perpetual body.
    Humans bartered their mind
    to the SELF in their likeness.
    *
    $1,000.00 to one disproving the Time Cube.
    $100.00 for 1 MIT student explaining Time
    Cube. $500.00 for 1 MIT professor explain
    ing Time Cube. To be awarded at lecture.

    Theoretical physic's Superstring Theory of the
    4 fundamental forces exists within Time Cube.
    Time Cube is T.O.E. or Theory of Everything.
    It is the Theory of the Universe. It is the Holy
    Grail of Physics. It is the Ultimate Theory. It
    is the Unified Field Theory. It is the Theory
    to End all Theories and is a totally different
    principle from theoretical physicists thinking.
    Academic ignorance of Time Cube dooms life.

    Time Cube lecture at MIT on
    January 30, 2002, from 3 pm
    to 5 pm in Lecture Hall 10250.
    Lecture for MIT people only.
    See at http://web.mit.edu/iap/
    Your God is invited to attend
    and a chair will be prepared.
    Will 'free speech' be allowed,
    or will obscurantism prevail
    in academic & religious word
    by suppressing Time Cube?
    Remember "U.S.S. Liberty".
    How many whites died while
    freeing blacks from slavery?
    Do blacks honor those whites?
    Blacks did not free the slaves.
    Ought not free slaves escape,
    or is a slavery cry enriching?
    Blacks are enslaving whites
    and will soon extract revenge.
    Black children suffer from the cost caused by black lawsuits.
    USA was a redskin nation and
    is now a whiteskin nation. It
    will become a blackskin nation
    and then an asianskin nation.
    There are 4 Worlds for 4 races,
    but only 1 World is racial slop.

    A 'Big Bang' for Academia.
    A 1 day Earth = 1 leg horse.
    A 4 day Earth = 4 leg horse.
    4 quadrants resemble circle,
    but doesn't constitute circle.
    Earth more Cubic than orb.

    I am wiser than all gods and
    scientists, for I have created
    4 simultaneous Worlds with
    4 simultaneous days within a
    single rotation of Earth and
    have created 4 simultaneous
    years in a single orbit of the
    Earth around the Sun and I
    have created 4 corner stages
    of 'human metamorphosis'.

    Humans are educated stupid
    because they are really dumb
    and cannot even comprehend
    the Time Cube creation code
    when it is explained to them.
    Word enslaves human mind
    more efficiently than shackle.
    Word is unnatural and must
    be taught to enslave dummies.
    Languages have deadly virus
    that will destroy the educated.

    Time Cube's ineffable Truth.
    'Cubeless Word' is not Truth.
    Word justifies all human evil.
    Time Cube is a test for Truth.
    Circle measure is slop bucket.
    God belief 50% god disbelief.
    Truth is 100%, belief is 50%.
    Time Cube is Truth creation.

    There is 'absolute proof' that
    You are personified pyramid.

    Creation is a Cubic Princple,
    & you are too dumb to know.
    To ignore it, indicts you evil.
    God lets little children starve,
    so no adults are worth saving.

    School is Church is School.

    Think of the Time Cube as a 4corner class
    room representing the 4corners of Earth,
    wherein, stupid educators teach erroneous
    1corner self aggrandizing singularity that
    equates a deadly poison to Cubic humanity.

    Academia builds word bomb,
    kinda like old Trojan Horse
    filled with deadly deception.
    *
    4 corner quadrants compose Earth sphere,
    as 4corner room with 4corner dimensions,
    with 4corner perspectives and the 4seasons.
    Earth's 4corners rotate 4corners of TIME,
    creating 4simultaneous day Earth rotation,
    as if 4 different Worlds with their own day,
    for 4separate races with 4corner life stages,
    with outer limits of 4x4 greatgrandparents.

    Human is 1 corner character
    of a 4corner metamorphosis.
    Cubic Power contradicts god.
    Earth life is heaven and hell.
    Self is lowest humanity form.
    Humans born of 2 opposites,
    femininity and masculinity,
    to a 4corner metamorphosis:
    baby, child, parent, gd.parent.
    God concept is human doom.
    Family Cube is creation body.
    Village equates highest order.
    Teach god singularity & you
    teach evil to Cubic humanity.
    Evil people ignore TimeCube.
    Word is fraught with evil, as
    in a virus among languages.
    Time Cube corners word god.
    Cubic Time transcends gods.
    Cowards fear the Time Cube.

    Compare plan 'A' god with a
    plan 'B' Time Cube creation
    and discover plan 'A' is a lie.

    You've been educated stupid
    and are too dumb to know it,
    or maybe just too evil to care.
    Ignorance of the Time Cube
    is a "curse" upon humanity.
    Minds must see a Time Cube,
    that eyes cannot comprehend.

    Word is counterfeit & fiction.
    People can live without word,
    and cubeless word is a poison
    that destroys all civilizations.
    Truth in Word is Cubic math.
    No 'Truth in Word' is taught.
    Read about "Easter Island End".

    There are 4 different Worlds
    on Earth. Yours is 1 of them.
    You're ignorant of 3 of them.
    Such ignorance is damnable.
    *
    You are educated stupid and
    can't compute a Time Cube.
    You are unworthy of Earth
    life and deserve banishment
    to a barren planet more fit
    for your antiNature life style.

    Are you aware that the MIT
    Educators were as criminals
    for banning student right to
    debate Nature's Time Cube?

    Ignoring Time Cube is evil.
    Time Cube is highest order
    of life, a "Cubic Creation".
    *
    MIT has become the first
    academic institution on the
    Earth to sponsor Harmonic
    Time Cube lecture / debate.
    *
    I am wiser than any god or
    scientist, for I have squared
    the circle and cubed Earth's
    sphere, thus I have created
    4 simultaneous separate 24
    hour days within a 4corner
    (as in a 4corner classroom)
    rotation of Earth. See for
    yourself the absolute proof.
    *
    Wise people call me a genius. Stupid and evil people call me crazy.
    My character is really determined by the mentality of the viewer. I
    would be more inclined to think that a jackass would kick me than
    to understand the wisdom of the Time Cube. Same with educated.

    Think Cubic Creation or Life
    on Earth will perish from it.
    Education stupefies humans.
    Cubelessness is a human evil,
    negating human right to live.

    WARNING: Education corrupts your rationale to know.
    Students suspended for viewing Time Cube.
    Test free speech right to debate Time Cube.
    This site may be hazardous to your stupidity.

    The Time Cube is not a theory, but is a Cubic Creation
    Principle by which flora, fauna and even humanity exists
    right before your eyes. Think of Nature's Harmonic 4x4
    rotation Time Cube as a 4corner rationalism classroom,
    in which the stupid revelationist educators brainwash and
    indoctrinate stupid irrational students with only 1corner
    empirical self destructive fictitious knowledge singularity.

    MIT, Massachusetts Institute of Technology
    has invited me as a guest lecturer to inform
    them about Nature's Time Cube, in January.
    *
    No student on Earth is al
    lowed to know Time Cube
    which disproves god scams.
    That is criminal academia.
    Christianity based upon evil
    1corner self aggrandizing
    which dooms 4corner life.
    Challenge stupid teachers
    and their 'Obscurantism'
    (deliberately withheld knowledge).

    Cube proves you are Stupid.
    Academic Word is Cubeless.
    Cubeless Word Dooms USA.
    Time Cube is Omnific Order.
    Cowards ignore Time Cube.

    There is no entity on Earth,
    for all of creation is Cubic
    with a top and bottom with
    front and back and 2 sides.

    YOU KNOW WHAT!!!
    You are educated stupid as
    teachers lack intelligence.
    Truth is Cubic.
    Time is Cubic...
    Life is Cubic....
    Form is Cubic..
    Family is Cubic..
    Village is Cubic..

    Evil is cubeless.
    Self is cubeless.
    God is cubeless.
    Language is a human invention
    of an evil cubeless singularity.

    You only know what you know
    from your mental brainwashing
    and word indoctrination since
    your birth. It is imperative that
    that you know what you don't
    know, but what you know, will
    not allow you to know what you
    don't know. The God words you
    know, will not allow you to know
    TIME CUBE's Highest Life Order.

    Gene Ray

    Ignoring Time Cube is Evil.

    Earth rotates within a Time Cube.
    Demand educators debate Time Cube.
    You are not allowed to know truth that
    in one rotation of Earth, there are:

    * 24 hours in midnight to midnight.
    * 24 hours in sunup to sunup...........
    * 24 hours in midday to midday.....
    * 24 hours in sundown to sundown.
    * 4 days in only 1 Earth rotation...
    * 4 simultaneous years of the seasons.
    * No infinite days within 96 hours.
    * 4 different directions in clockwise.
    * 3 days lost to academic stupidity.

    There are 4 simultaneous days
    (dumb fools claim infinite days)
    created within a single rotation
    of Earth. Teaching that Earth has
    only 1 day in 1 rotation, is adult
    poison forced on their children,
    as in the Jonestown mass murder.
    Cubeless academia = armageddon
    and a barren Earth for children.

    Ignoring Time Cube is Evil.

    It is best to be uneducated and
    Wise, than educated with Lies.

    You are an educated stupid ass.
    Word is counterfeit & fictitious
    representations of true values,
    as in form, substance and deed.
    Adult word god is a counterfeit
    and fictitious evil upon children.

    Teachers are hired evil word
    pedants who enslave childish
    minds to a lifetime stupidity.

    The common stupidity and evil of humanity,
    is their "ignorance" of Nature's Time Cube.
    A school is a church and church is a school.
    I am writing a "Time Cube " book that will
    contradict and condemn every religious and
    scientific book written and why not, for I am
    the Greatest Thinker and the Wisest Human.

    Dumb academicians cannot
    comprehend their slavery to
    counterfeit word and its evil.
    Word enslaves mind. Talking
    dog could enslave humanity.
    Teachers enslave you stupid.

    Demand your teachers teach
    Time Cube and encourage
    debate or you are mentally
    enslaved as stupid and evil
    ass unfit for life on Earth.
    *
    Can majority sue minority
    or is it but a oneway court?
    Are Indians minorities, and
    why are they incarcerated?
    Is Indian segregation legal?
    Can an Indian be president?
    Where are Indian newscasters?
    Isn't integration racial slop?
    Will US become black nation?
    *
    Education equates stupidity
    and educators ban Life Cube.
    Truth Cube debunks 1 corner
    word god in a Cubic creation.

    Academia is Big Brother's
    Ministry of Obscurantism, as
    in deliberately withholding
    knowledge from the mass of
    human blockhead androids.
    Academic denial of student
    right to debate Time Cube
    exposes an evil conspiracy.
    *
    Cubes are varied and imperfect
    as are their human composites.

    Humans are educated stupid
    and revel within their stupidity.
    Humans are enslaved by word,
    the most efficient mind control.
    Shackles & whips are obsolete.
    *
    Warning To Word Worshipers.

    Just as Word viruses are destructive in human
    made computers, there is a deadly Word virus
    spreading within the English Language. Unless
    isolated and eradicated by your knowledge of
    Nature's Harmonic Time Cube, the deadly Word
    virus will inflict total selfdestruction upon all humanity.Your ignorance of Time Cube is evil.

    Time Cube is above academic comprehension.
    Universities equate doomed Towers of Babble.
    Time Cube debate will expose academic scams,
    so academia must "ignore" debate at all costs.
    Students denied the right to debate Time Cube.
    Educators are evil to deny Time Cube debate.
    Academic ignoring of Time Cube equates evil.
    Word worship educators beget stupid students.
    Students are brainwashed and do not know it.
    Students are taught to be stupid and don't care.
    Word is the most effective tool of enslavement.
    Stupid students believe any crap they're taught.
    Stupid students unable to evaluate Time Cube.
    Students ignore Time Cube, attack messenger.

    Gene Ray has created 4 simultaneous 24 hour
    Days within a single 24 hour Earth rotation.
    $1,000.00 to 1st person to disprove Time Cube.
    Scientists and gods created evil 1 corner Day.
    Education corrupts your mentality to know this.
    Evil educators outlaw student Time Cube debate.
    Gene is The Greatest Thinker and Wisest Human.

    Earth has perfect vertical axis:
    The Earth axis tilt represents an inperfection
    upon which life is based. If the Earth axis was perfectly vertical, there would be no divisions
    of life as in seasons and therefore no life. Earth
    rotates 4 simultaneous seasons simultaneously
    as it revolves around the Sun, thus creating 4
    simultaneous years as in a separate year for
    each season. The spinning of Earth while
    creating the 4 simultaneous years causes the
    Earth to travel 4 Times the distance of a non
    rotating planet circling the Sun. Sumup the
    axis tilt of those 4 simultaneous years and
    divide by 4 to discover a perfectly vertical
    Earth axis which represents the perfection of
    death. Though you only see the Earth tilt,
    mentally, you should recognize that Earth
    has a perfectly vertical axis over all. The
    straight line on the heart monitor equates
    to the perfectionof death. The oscillation or
    imperfection of that straight line, represents
    the imperfection of all created life on Earth
    depicted in Nature's Harmonic Time Cube.
    Without Time Cube, your life right is voided.

    You were educated stupid
    and evil by evil educators.
    Do you enjoy being stupid?
    Time Cube ignorance is evil.
    Demand Time Cube debate
    in all academic institutions.
    You do not have the "guts"
    to seek Time Cube "Truth".
    Academia is a religious cult
    empowerment of self word.
    Academic word 'rots'brain.
    Can you explain Time Cube?
    If not, your brain has rotted.
    Educators are evil bastards
    who fear Time Cube debate.
    Evil men ignoreTime Cube.
    Teachers ignore Time Cube.
    Teachers deserve a hanging.
    My name is Gene Ray. Not
    even a god can deny that I
    have squared the circle of a
    static Earth and cubed the
    Earth sphere by rotating it
    once to a dynamic Time or
    Life Cube. Only a false god
    or academically brainwashed
    indoctrinated mindless moron
    would deny that the Earth
    lacks the top and bottom, the
    front and back, and 2sides
    physical dimensions of a Cube
    that spirals a 4season quad
    helix around the Sun creating
    a swirling of 4 simultaneous
    years as in a separately created
    year for each of 4 seasons.
    Man is the only evil animal.
    Man is the only word animal.
    Word equates instituted evil.
    Word adultism is antichild.
    A 'word god'can be erased.
    Word brings a Babel curse.
    Get ready for armageddon.
    Beliefs equate pornography,
    for they coexist on the web.
    There is no damn word god.
    Truth is physical, word a lie.
    It is what you do, not utter.
    Without deed, word starves.
    Word god lends not a hand.

    The Greatest Thinker

    Adults are EVILto children.
    God is a word masturbation.
    A fart has more "substance"
    than a human emitted word.
    Word and god are unnatural,
    counterfeit, fictitious and do
    not exist in Nature's realm.
    Cubeless WORD is an evil
    'adult scam' against children
    and is destroying humanity.
    Schools are evil institutions
    staffed by religious cowards
    who fear Time Cube debate.
    TimeCube proves god is evil.
    TimeCube debunks evil bible.
    Burn bible to save humanity.
    You're a TimeCube traveler,
    but you are educated stupid.
    Your Character is cornered,
    4corner head, 1corner face,
    4corner life metamorphosis.
    Family is a 4corner rotation,
    mother, father, son, daughter.
    Life rotation debunks Trinity.
    Academic cubelessness is evil.
    Schools are actually churches.
    Education is but mind control,
    no whips or shackles required.
    Education 'plunders' Nature.
    Prequisite to comprehending
    Nature's Harmonic TimeCube
    is tearing & burning the bible
    to purge your mind of its lies.
    For true freedom, burn bible
    to contradict academic gods.
    Academia & religion are one.
    Teachers & believers are one.
    Word educator is "your god".
    Educators teach fake beliefs.
    God is an academic deception.
    God is like hate for children.
    God is but a killer of children.
    Bible causes an armageddon.
    I am wiser than a word god.
    Adult word god is but an evil
    scam that crucifies children.
    Bring forth your god and I
    will chase him off the Earth.
    Humans glorify word as god.
    In the beginning was word.
    Word is counterfeit and evil.
    Evil word became your god.
    4corner Truth is ineffable.
    Educators teach stupidity &
    evil. You learned both well.
    You are evil word worshiper.
    Humans are 1corner beings
    (1corner face 4corner head)
    who rotate 4corner lifetimes:
    baby, child, parent, gparent.
    Time Cube debunks god lies.
    Evil people deny Time Cube.
    Educators are flatout liars.
    Evil media hides Time Cube.
    1 x 1=+1 is stupid and evil.
    Word worship equates to evil.
    Bible induces a barren Earth.
    Evil 1 day Biblekills children.
    I have found 3 more 24 hour
    days on Earth that educators
    refuse to let you know about.
    Brainwashed & indoctrinated,
    you were educated stupid and
    evil. A pity about your mind.
    Time Cube = Highest Order.
    Time Cube = 'godless Truth'.
    Time Cube damns academia
    by rotating 4corners of life.
    The 'only subject' on Earth
    banned from debate by evil
    and stupid educators is that
    of Nature's Harmonic Time
    Cube ineffable Truth. Any
    educator who allows Time
    Cube debate will most likely
    be fired or killed by religious
    zealot brethren who staff and
    control all academic schools.
    Name 1 Time Cube debating
    school on all of the Earth.
    Educators are evil hirelings.
    Mother&baby are same age.
    No mother until baby born.
    Your ancestory limit is 16 ...
    your 16 greatgrandparents.
    Divide past,present,future by 4.
    Rotate 4corner scribes to
    create 4 squared circles.
    Education is 1 stupid corner.
    4 is the supreme number of
    the universe. There is no 1
    in 4corner metamorphosis.
    Educators are evil people
    for they teach cubelessness.
    All word is 'fictitious evil'
    not a substance nor a deed.
    Life is based upon a perfect
    math or your arm would be
    too short to wipe your butt.
    Humans are fictitious word
    worshipers & math stupid.
    Human exist as personified
    4corner pyramid but with
    only a 1corner perspective
    during a 4corner rotation,
    or 4 stage metamorphosis.
    Truth squares Life Circle
    and Cubes Earth sphere.
    Life rotates via 4corners.
    Mensa is Truth ignorant.
    Adults evolve from child,
    for adults are never born.
    Word worship is evil scam.
    God desecrates childhood.
    You were educated stupid
    about 4season Life Cube.
    4corners are simultaneous,
    there is no 1, 2, or 3corner.
    4 is both macro and micro.
    God can't occupy 4corners.
    Time Cube disproves God.
    God is an evil adult "word
    scam" against children that
    justifies adult plunder of all
    natural resources on Earth.
    Educators are evil bastards.
    You have a 4corner head
    with only a 1corner face.
    You are 1/4 of the person you
    were taught to think you are.
    Academic and religious
    teachings equate mental
    retardation as a 2x4x4
    Cube creation principle
    reduced to a 1/4 (corner).
    You are educated retarded,
    too stupid for Time Cube.
    'Takes village to raise child'.
    Educators are evil people;
    words corrupt principles,
    'takes child out of family'&
    'takes village out of child'
    'empowerment of selfevil'.
    There is no God in 2 x 4x4
    femininity and masculinity
    2 sex Cube hemispheres, as
    life is a 2Cube crapgame.
    All words equal not 1 deed.
    Try words to stop tornado.
    Truth of Cube is ineffable.
    Nature outlaws word gods.
    Cubeless word is adult evil.
    Word enslaves the children.
    You were educated 'stupid'
    by evil religious teachers,
    and can't know Time Cube.
    'Cube Spirit' is Almighty.
    Educators are too damn
    stupid to know 4/16 Cube.
    There is no Cubic teacher.
    Educators are the primary
    cause of evil mathematics.
    God is but a single corner
    face on a 4corner head.
    Fire Religious Teachers
    too stupid for 4/16 Life.
    You're 1corner educated
    and cannot comprehend
    4/16 corner rotating Life.
    You were taught stupidity.

    Time Cube exposes evil.
    Cubelessness is an Evil.
    Educators are teaching
    you Evil Cubelessness.
    Educators cannot allow
    Time Cube to be known.
    Academia is '1 corner'.
    Religion but '1 corner'.
    1 self is only '1 corner'.
    Family has '4corners'
    and 4/16 cube rotation.
    God is a '1 corner' evil.
    Selfgod is 1 cornerism
    adult scam upon child.
    Teach 3 equators for a
    4 quadrant hemisphere
    which rotates to a 4/16
    principle life creativity
    as in Family Life Cube.
    God = Hate of Children.
    God denies a childhood.
    Worship of Word is Evil,
    for it 'counterfeits' Deed
    and teaches Liar is God.

    You're Educated Stupid.
    1 Corner Academic 'self'
    is "lowest" human form. It
    "degradates"4/16 family life
    and destroys all villages.

    1human is but 1corner
    life in 4corner lifetimes:
    baby, child, parent and
    grandparent corners ...
    a rotating 4/16 creation.
    Corner god nonexistent.
    Academia is a religion
    with religious teachers
    controlled by believers,
    who forbid 4/16 Cube
    as "Forbidden Truth".
    Adults evolve from their
    ungodly image children.
    Fake god eats Child life.
    Educators teach cubeless
    babble, ignoring Highest
    Order Creation a Cube.
    Fire Religious Teachers
    ignorant of Time Cube.

    Believers are 'evil liars'.
    'Selfgod' is lowest form
    of behavior, below both
    family and village Cube.
    You are educated stupid.

    Mangod academic scam
    equals 1corner Pyramid.
    Rotating 4corners prove
    1human is only 1corner
    of a Higher Order Life. There is no 1
    corner god in 4corner lifetime stages
    of human evolution metamorphosis ...
    wherein born baby dies to child, child
    dies to parent & parent dies to grand
    parent corner. Adults evolve, not born.
    Singularity equates sex with the baby.
    Adult word worship is an
    evil adult scam. Burn the
    bible, honor Childhood
    via which adults evolve.
    Babble Power is suicidal.

    Ignorance of "Time Cube"
    indicts you stupid and evil.
    Explain the "Time Cube".
    Do you like being Stupid?
    "Our Cube" corners Liars.

    I am a'Cubic Thinker' and
    far wiser than any god, any scientist
    and any educator who preaches the
    evil singularity of a single 1st corner.

    Gene Ray

    Truth about Santa Claus debunks
    Santa God. God evolves from Santa.

    Educated people are stupid cowards.
    Not a single university has accepted my challenge
    for a public debate of Nature's Time Cube. They
    are actually brainwashed stupid and decline any
    public debate for fear of public embarrassment.
    Physicists forbidden to acknowledge Time Cube.
    Stupid educators always beget stupid graduates.
    Not one knows of their 4corner metamorphosis.

    Gene Ray

    Educators teach erroneous Mathematics.
    3Dimensional math as in length, width and height
    are erroneous when applied within a Cube like room
    for they do not account for the 4corner perspective
    dimensions of difference as in '4dimensional space'.
    Solar system, Earth sphere and human body all have
    a front, back and 2 sides which rotate between the 2
    top and bottom poles ceiling and floor parameters.

    No single corner human can occupy or experience
    more than a single corner at the same time during a
    4corner rotation within the 4/16 creation principle.
    Earth sphere rotates within an invisible Time Cube.
    Unseen, humans have not the education or rationale
    to comprehend Nature's Simultaneous 4Day Cube.

    You are a personified pyramid corner.
    Educated people are the evil empower
    ment of the self the lowest form of
    humanity. Humans are brainwashed
    stupid and indoctrinated evil. A human
    will rotate around 4corner lifetime
    stages within a family metamorphosis
    baby, child, parent and grandparent.
    Name your 4/16 greatgrandparents.

    Your own people will kill
    you to prevent this
    'Forbidden Truth Cube'
    from ever being known.
    Socrates was killed to
    hide Truth from public.
    1corner god is a fraud.
    Are you afraid to know?

    All Educated are Stupid from
    brainwashing and indoctrination.
    Pedant teachers cannot comprehend
    that there are 4 simultaneousYears
    within a single rotation of Earth
    about the Sun. Each season has its
    own separate corner Year.

    You are probably brainwashed, indoctrinated, educated stupid and cannot comprehend
    Nature's Harmonic Simultaneous 4Day
    Perpetual Time Cube Creation.

    When the Sun shines upon Earth,
    2 major Time points are created
    on opposite sides of Earth known
    as Midday and Midnight. Where
    the 2 major Time forces join, synergy
    creates 2 new minorTime points we
    recognize as Sunup and Sundown.

    The 4equidistant Time points can be
    considered as Time Square imprinted
    upon the circle of Earth. In a single
    rotation of the Earth sphere, each
    Time corner point rotates through
    the other 3corner Time points, thus
    creating 16 corners, 96 hours and
    4simultaneous 24 hour Days within
    a single rotation of Earth equated
    to a Higher Order of Life Time Cube.
    Ignorance of the Time Cube is evil.

    Education induces Stupidity. Explain
    4 life human metamorphosis.

    Creation Origin Found

    Life is a "Crapshoot"
    with a femininity cube
    and a masculinity cube.

    God is an Evil Invention.

    Word is a Trojan Horse.

    Singularity debunked by Time Cube.
    Self is the lowest form of humanity.
    Selfgod is lowest human behavior.
    Family is source of human creation.
    Community is perpetual family/self.
    'Evil' educators brainwash children.

    Earth has 4 simultaneous Days
    within only 1 rotation. Losing 3
    Days in each Earth rotation has
    retarded your mentality to stupid
    and an education of Evil. You do
    not have the mind or education
    to envision Nature's Time Cube.

    Proving Human Stupidity

    Revelations 7.1 recognizes 4 Earth Corners.

    3 EQUATOR 4 CORNER EARTH TIME ROTATES 96 HOURS AS A SIMULTANEOUS 4 DAY CUBE.

    YOU WERE TAUGHT THAT THE EARTH HAS ONLY ONE EQUATOR AS IF THE EARTH WAS FLAT. YOU WERE TAUGHT IGNORANCE

    CREATION HAS TWO SEX POLES & 4 CORNER RACES OF HUMANS.

    GOD IS CORNERED AS A QUEER.

    GENE RAY, CUBIC

    You WordMurder Your Children.

    Human metamorphosis has 4corner
    lifetime stages known as baby,child,
    parent and grandparent. Biblegod
    equates 1corner and bare Earth for
    children. 4corner Truth is ineffable
    and no self or god can speak Truth.
    Only baby is born.Adult is not born.
    Without metamorphosis no adults.

    If Earth stood still, it would have midday, midnight, sunup and sundown as 4 corners. Each rotation of earth has 4 middays, 4 midnights, 4 sunups and 4 sundowns.
    The sixteen(16) space times demonstrates cube proof of 4 full days simultaneously on earth within one (1) rotation. The academia created 1 day greenwich time is bastardly queer and dooms future youth and nature to a hell.

    Ignorance of 4 day harmonic cubic nature indicts humans as unfit to live on earth.

    Gene Ray, Cubic

    The Wisest Human

    I will give $1,000.00 to any person who can
    disprove 4 days in each earth rotation. It's
    a pity that religious and academic word is a
    crime against Nature and enslaves Children.
    4cornered Truth is ineffable by man or god.
    Until Word is Cornered, all Math is Fiction.
    Confirmation:

    LIFE ENCOMPASSES A 416 CUBE PRINCIPLE
    Socrates has a midday
    Clinton's have a sundown
    Einstein has a midnight
    Jesus has a sunup (Harmonic Cube)
    1 24HR Earth Day
    Rotate Earth 1/4 turn
    Socrates has a sundown
    Clinton's hve a midnight
    Einstein has a sunup
    Jesus has a midday 1 24HR Earth Day
    Rotate Earth 1/4 turn
    Socrates has a midnight
    Clinton's have a sunup
    Einstein has a midday
    Jesus has a sundown 1 24HR Earth Day
    Rotate Earth 1/4 turn
    Socrates has a sunup
    Clinton's have a midday
    Einstein has a sundown
    Jesus has a midnight 1 24HR Earth Day
    Rotate Earth 1/4 turn

    Greenwich Time is a Lie
    Your midday is someone else's midnight, someone else's sundown and even someone else's sunup. Do you know that time is a simultaneous 4 corner square that rotates to a 4 day time cube within 1 24 hour rotation of Earth? You are educated stupid and unable to know Nature's 4Day Time Cube Creation.

    Are You Jewish?

    Public Warning

    The Power Above God.

    Pedantic Mind Control

    Corruption of Word

    Greenwich Time Debunked

    All Clock Faces Are Wrong

    AboveGod

    EMAIL THE AUTHOR oray612959@earthlink.net

    © 19972001 www.TimeCube.com

  36. Lots of short little bits of text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anandtech isn't trying to artificially inflate the advertisement display count by separating paragraphs of articles into multiple pages, are they?

  37. Anal warts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Hey guys my doctor just said that I have them, yeah I know it sucks!! and I was wondering if any of you guys have any experience with them, like what should I expect?
    Should I tell girls about it at first or how long do I wait?
    I can scratch them right? lol I'll wash my hands before eating

    Thanks!

    1. Re:Anal warts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      I've got anal warts, too. AT first I was scared, then upset, then mad, but I've learned to accept them.

      Once, I was drunk and did take the direct approach; "Hi, I've got anal warts, do you want to fuck?", but on second thought it was a bad idea. Also, if a give sees you scratching your asshole all day long ... it just doesn't turn them on.

      No need to tell her you have anal warts right away. She might not notice, and if you give them to her, you can claim she gave them to you! Once, after giving a girl anal warts, I was drunk and fucked her up the ass. If you think anal warts are bad, wait until you get nutsack warts!

  38. The Itanium line is going to amaze you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    A man chases a woman, catches her, throws her on the floor. He pulls
    down his trousers, lifts her dress and removes her slip. He then starts to
    stab her between her legs with his penis. He stabs her furiously, savagely,
    bestially, viciously and perversely. He continues to stab her, stabs her
    again and again and now and then insulting her with obscene words. He takes
    vicious pleasure in seeing the woman at his mercy and enduring his perverse
    sexual assault.

    Heterosexuals are rapists and potential rapists. Heterosexuals are
    stabbers of women.
    Heterosexuals are really perverted, disgusting and repulsive.
    Heterosexuality is disgusting and repulsive.
    Heterosexuals are the excrement of the earth.
    We always had a profound disgust and repulsion for heterosexuals and
    heterosexuality.

    You are a hetero fornicator, a hetero beast, a hetero rapist, a hetero
    pervert, a hetero filth, a hetero thief, a hetero liar, a hetero bandit and
    a hetero murderer.

    Heterosexuals have always been on the offensive. They have always attacked
    others without good arguments. Their attacks are based on lies, violence,
    vulgarity and injustice. Gays and other groups of people have always been on
    the defensive. This is why heterosexuals have become arrogant and
    tyrannical. Gays and other groups of people should strike back more often.
    They should counter attack They should be more on the offensive also. In
    fact it is heterosexuals who have not respected others. They have oppressed
    others. The others have the right to strike back. Heterosexuals have always
    acted like terrorists. This is Heterosexual Terrorism. They should be
    condemned.

    Three articles are reproduced below to show how heterosexuals are murderous,
    abnormal, perverted, sinful and dirty.

    Heterosexuals are beasts and filthy

    Heterosexuals like to criticise others when they have themselves many more
    faults, defects, vices and perversions.

    Heterosexuals are monsters. In 1999, in a few days heterosexuals committed
    many monstrous crimes. In Egypt a man stabbed the lover of his wife 300
    times and then cut his head. In Israel a man set fire to the house of his
    wife, killing his wife and his children. In atlanta, USA a man killed his
    wife and children and then killed 9 other people.
    Heterosexuals are beasts. Heterosexuality is bestiality.

    Some time ago, in belgium, a pastor and his daughter with whom he had
    an incestuous relationship killed 10 people. 5 were members of their family.
    The two heterosexuals got rid of their victims by dissolving their bodies in
    acid. The heterosexual man was a pastor and a theology teacher.

    In Gloucester, Great Britain, frederick and rosemary West who were
    husband and wife, killed and buried 18 persons. Some were their children.

    In the eighties, a heterosexual man in california raped, tortured and
    killed more than 15 women. the man took sadistic pleasures in seeing the
    women suffered. One of his methods was to cut them with an electric saw. The
    man took pleasure in seeing the women shouting in terrible pain.

    Several years ago in South America (Colombia) a heterosexual man raped
    and killed more than 100 girls.

    In France the parents of a 5 year old boy martyrized the little boy
    for years. They beated him and imprisoned him in a little cage. They took
    pleasure in seeing the little boy suffered.

    A few years ago in France a Head of school killed the prostitute he was
    frequenting because the prostitute no longer wanted him.

    There are many other cases of heterosexual atrocities.

    Every week (sometimes every day) in the media of the world you can read and
    hear about heinous crimes committed by heterosexuals.

    Heterosexuals like to brag and threaten people about many things. Then for
    offences and crimes they must be punished more severely because they have no
    extenuating circumstances.

    There are only three possibilities for them. Either they are shut in
    psychiatric hospitals or they are shut in prisons or they are executed.

    It is not because many parents are heterosexual that they are perfect. Many
    parents and heterosexuals want only to satisfy their vicious desires.
    Children are just the result of their vices. It is not that because
    something is necessary that it is perfect. Excrement is necessary and it is
    not perfect. Heterosexuals are like excrement. They are not perfect, they
    are disgusting and wicked.

    Heterosexuality is no longer necessary to have children. Artificial
    Insemination is replacing it.

    Some heterosexuals say that they have to fornicate to ensure the survival
    of humankind. Their argument does not convince at all. First we do not need
    so many children on this earth. On the contrary it will be better if they
    stop copulating and fornicating. There will be less vices and less problems
    caused by heterosexuals and overpopulation. If those heterosexuals stop
    copulating and do not have children we will not regret at all. We will
    rejoice because there will be less problems and more resources available for
    people existing on earth. It is better to have quality than quantity.
    Secondly to have children, heterosexuals do not need to have so many
    copulations. They have thousands times more copulations than necessary. It
    is as if an employee is asking thousands times more money for the real value
    of a job or a seller is making people pay thousands times more than the real
    value of an article.

    If those heterosexuals stop copulating the world will be a better place. The
    world do not need those type of people. There are people more than necessary
    on this earth. There are also enough smart people on this earth. Many
    problems (crimes, vices, theft, exploitation, etc) caused by heterosexuals
    will disappear. So we say, let them stop copulating and having children.

    Heterosexuals are the greatest killers and the greatest perverts

    Heterosexuals are the greatest killers. Since the beginning of the world
    heterosexuals have killed as many as the increase in population at a
    particular period and sometimes much more. For example in 1970 there were 4
    billions people. Now there are 6 billions people. In 30 years the population
    has increased by 2 billions. In the same period heterosexuals have killed
    approximately the same number of people.

    From 1970 to 1999 an average of 50 millions abortions were perpetrated each
    year by heterosexuals (Data from United Nations and World Health
    Organization). This means that in 30 yrs, 50x30=1500 millions abortions have
    been committed. Heterosexuals are guilty of 1.5 billions abortions in that
    period of time. Heterosexuals are guilty of this holocaust and genocide of
    children. Heterosexuals are worst than the Nazis.

    Heterosexuals committed about 150 crimes per year per million people. From
    1970 to 1999 the average world population was 5 billions, that is 5000
    millions people. Therefore each year heterosexuals committed 5000x150=750000
    crimes. For 30 years they committed 30x750000=22,500,000 crimes.

    During that period heterosexuals killed also about 100 millions people in
    wars (soldiers and civil population).

  39. 10 Ghz ALU = 5Ghz CPU by kawaichan · · Score: 4, Informative

    All the Pentium 4 ALUs are double pumped, that means a Pentium 4 running at 2.2 Ghz's ALU is running at 4.4Ghz.

    And you are still wondering why Pentium 4 is still slower than the Athlon (or awfully close)

    Imagine what would happen if the ALU is only running at the same speed as the CPU.

    Personally, Intel is losing little ground at a time right now, but remember, Intel can afford to make a couple of mistakes but AMD can't even afford to make on. One mistake will push AMD back to the bottom, again.

    --

    kawai
    1. Re:10 Ghz ALU = 5Ghz CPU by morcheeba · · Score: 2
      Page 4 of the article:

      The Pentium 4's double-pumped ALUs are actually only 16-bits wide, thus requiring a single clock to produce one 32-bit result.


      Imagine what would happen if the ALU is only running at the same speed as the CPU.

      You'd have a 16 bit processor?

      No, seriously, they are going for a ALU that works on 32 bits per clock, like the one demo'ed. But, I'd be just as happy with a 20 GHz double pumped 16-bit ALU as I would a 10 GHz single pumped 32-bit ALU ... as long as the performance is the same, I'll leave it to intel to decide the best implementation.
  40. AMD Still Has Upper Hand by citking · · Score: 4, Informative

    Intel chips, while more commonplace in store-bought computers, still do not measure up to the performance and reliability of AMD. I started long ago with an Intel Celeron 300 slot chipset (hey, I was new to this computer thing; please be gentle!). Later, when I wised up, I built a whole new system around a Duron 750 Socket A. Much better. Even when I ran comparisons on my Duron 750 to faster Intel 3 chips the results were very similar: The Duron outperformed the Intel in just about every aspect! Not only that, but when you consider what clock speed one gets for their dollar, the AMD series has always been faster for cheaper. Reliability is also a factor that goes against Intel. I have heard many horror stories of chips that had great heatsinks and excellent fans, but they still overheated with no overclocking involved. My co-worker, however, runs an awe-inspiring water-cooling system that has leaked many times (poor guy is great at computers, lousy at plumbing) but despite water sitting literally on the chip, the AMD Athlon he was running showed no signs of damage. But, to be fair, I can't just compare prices and reliability. Intel and AMD chips have many, many differences to set them apart. The whole deal breaks down to this, though: When I wanted to upgrade recently to the Athlon XP, I didn't have to go out and buy a new motherboard, different memory, and a special power supply. Actually, all I needed was the chip. Until Intel can effectively compete with AMD's performance, reliability, and cost, I will never, ever own another Intel board again.

    --
    "This food is problematic."
    1. Re:AMD Still Has Upper Hand by Glonk · · Score: 2, Troll

      Intel chips, while more commonplace in store-bought computers, still do not measure up to the performance and reliability of AMD.
      Let's drop the act. :)

      Intel CPUs are just as reliable as AMD, if not more. AMD CPUs rely on motherboard logic to stop overheating and subsequent fires/melting, Intel CPU's have them built in. AMD CPUs are FAR more likely to crack/shatter installing HSFs due to how the sockets are designed, too. Your reliability argument is simply nonexistant.

      As for performance, there are instances where the Pentium 4 is king, there are instances where the Athlon XP is king. There's no clear performance leader.

      Athlons are cheaper, but take some shortcuts. Still damn fast, still damn cheap. Lots of people love that.

    2. Re:AMD Still Has Upper Hand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Informative?!? WTF?
      Even when I ran comparisons on my Duron 750 to faster Intel 3 chips the results were very similar
      Which chips? Benchmarks even? Intel 3 chips? What apps and aspects? I'm a fan of AMD, competition, value versus marketing hype, but let's get real. Intel still is at least a competative technical leader. Right now, the race is tight, and until we see the next generation of stuff from AMD (Morgan, Hammer, et al), we do not know how things will fall.
      Reliability is also a factor that goes against Intel. I have heard many horror stories of chips that had great heatsinks and excellent fans, but they still overheated with no overclocking involved.
      I really wonder about that reliability bit considering that the Athlon is well known as dissipating more heat than almost any Intel chip even if you compare chips at equilivant execution speed.
      When I wanted to upgrade recently to the Athlon XP, I didn't have to go out and buy a new motherboard, different memory, and a special power supply.
      Funny, that's what I was thinking about when I was going to upgrade from my Pentium II (Slot 1) to an Athlon (Slot A) when I could have upgraded to a Pentium III (Slot 1). Change with the times or get left behind.
    3. Re:AMD Still Has Upper Hand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      personally I think you are a moron, I personally have have 4 T-birds go up in smoke, and so did a buddy of mine. All of them used copper heatsinks and giant fans, 3 of them died not from heat and the cause is still unknown. not to mention i work in a computer repair shop and intel machines only come in with os problems, except the occasional lightning strike, where as half the amd's that come in had hardware related problems. I personally own and still use about a dozen intel boxes and have never had a problem withany of them. i will admit that amd's do run as fast and sometimes faster at any given clock speed as long as you keep them cool enough, but I would rather sacrafice a little speed for gaurenteed and proven stability.

  41. Whats an HP print cartridge case doing in there? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you look at this picture:
    http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/cpu/intel/in si de/apparatus.jpg

    Does anyone else see the HP Deskjet 500 printer cartridge case sitting next to the stereo microscope?
    I find that odd, just leaving your junk laying around like that in a controlled environment.

  42. Re:Help! I'm stuck in jail! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    my choice of job would be a woman's bicycle seat. I would like to be a woman's bicycle seat so athletic women dressed in spandex would rub their crotches and asses all over me. And, if they go on bumpy roads, I would thrust up and down into their erogonous zones, as they pumped their legs around me.

    Just thinking about it gives me a boner. uh, oh, I think I'll need a new keyboard!

  43. Another inside view by moldar · · Score: 1

    As someone who works at Intel supporting the fab, it is absolutely amazing! The marketing folks may spout all day long, but the technology developing inside the clean rooms is great! Of course they are getting close to hosting an open house for the locals (yes - more PR!) to educate them about the chip making process. Seems like us technically inclined folks can't take 2 steps without bumping into a marketing guy!

  44. I want good performance for the money by Goonie · · Score: 2
    . . . and I don't care how Intel gets it.

    Who cares if Intel (or anyone else) makes chip n+1 perform better than chip n through clock cycle speedups, fiddling with cache arrangements, implementing faster-than-light wiring systems on the die :-) . . . whatever. As long as it works faster and cheaper than last year's, what does it matter beyond idle curiosity?

    --

    Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo
    --Andy Finkel (J. Klass?)
  45. Wireless? by Rufus211 · · Score: 2, Funny
    hrm...I've always been somewhat skeptical of Intel's "wireless" products, and I guess I had good reason to be:
    Intel's campus alone is entirely wired for wireless internet access for their employees.

    You just got to love all those wires for the wireless network =)
  46. which one caught fire again? by ArchieBunker · · Score: -1

    Oh wait its AMD whose cpu catches fire with no heatsink. Maybe they should have spent the extra penny or two on a real thermal sensor and not some diode, which BTW is not what that components designed for. Temperature change in diodes is more of a side effect. Personally I won't buy a cpu from a company that catches fire and requires a team of surveyors to position the heatsink or risk breaking the die.

    --
    Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
    1. Re:which one caught fire again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are so fucking right.
      I burned my Athlon 1.0 when onboard fan connector died ...
      Well, I still run Athlon , this time 1.1 for even with its flaws it is still cheaper than Intel.

  47. The Aspiring Slashdot Joker Part I by prizzznecious · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Guide to the Slashdot Joke ver .1

    Greetings, denizens of the Slashdot. If you have read Slashdot commentary with any attention, you have noticed that certain posts receive moderation points with the qualifier "Funny." You may also have noticed, if have experience with non-Linux OS's, that these posts do make you smile, laugh, urinate, or any of the more popular responses to things that would normally be considered "Funny." Indeed, the Slashdot has birthed a new linguistic classification; I propose to call it the "Slashdot Joke," for reasons that are hopefully quite apparent.

    So! You wish to become a Slashdot Joker? Easier typed than done! But let us endeavor no less assiduously in the face of difficulty.

    The first thing you must understand in order to be a Slashdot Joker is that the Slashdot Joke does not make you laugh because it was never intended to be funny. That is correct; what's more, no sense of humor is required to craft a Slashdot Joke. The Slashdot Joke is a purely manipulative phenomenon with a specific desired outcome, in most respects quite similar to deftly used GHB. A Slashdot Joke [GHB] compels a Slashdot Moderator [svelte vixen (or otherwise, but let it be svelte, if you please!)] to give you karma [let you stick your dirty penis wherever you please].

    The key to proper manipulation is to know the weaknesses of your target. In this case, your target will be Slashdot Moderators. While you can glean a better understanding of this from even minimal observation, I will clue you in to a few basic rules. Slashdot Moderators are all nerds. Some Trolls would have you believe that all Slashdot Moderators use the Linux; this is a common misconception, as most Slashdot Readers (of which Moderators are a subset) use the Microsoft Windows. However, remember my first statement: Slashdot Moderators are all nerds. We all know the Microsoft Windows is easier to use than the Linux; most nerds like to pretend that they are very intimate with their computers (note that some truly are, but that this practice is frowned upon in most circles). In other words, most Slashdot Moderators will support the dominant Slashdot paradigm, which is that the Linux is the greatest, coolest, hippest, free-est, rockingest, insert-your-fetish-here-est OS in the known universe. They take the Linux very seriously. If you do not know much about the Linux, you should go here. That will give you some understanding of the type of people you are working with.

    Nerds are very insecure, by definition. If someone is smart and secure (do not take their word for it, though), they will not be a nerd, no matter how much they know about computers, or how much they like Tolkien. Nerdism is insecurity. Therefore, to the novice Slashdot Joker, stroking Slashdot Moderator egos is crucial. Once you have mastered this basic strategy, you can move on to advanced Slashdot Joking (which I will address later), but for now, pace yourself. There are many mod points to be earned from this tried and true method.

    Bearing that in mind, let us discuss Slashdot Joking practically. First of all, it is very important to make your joke so quickly as you possibly can. This is because of the following. Real jokes are often absurd and silly; that is why they make us laugh. On the Slashdot, however, Offtopic posts are treated most unkindly. Since a real (funny) joke would almost never be strictly Ontopic in a Slashdot thread (except for the time when CmdrTaco brilliantly stated that he needed a new rubber for his "Jackbot"), this is the most dangerous aspect of Slashdot Joking. Do not allow your sense of humor to ruin your Slashdot Joke! Slashdot Jokes must pertain directly to the topic at hand. For this reason, the most effective Slashdot Jokes will make direct use of the wording of the actual post being discussed (referencing even the linked article is usually too removed--anyway, the Slashdot Moderators almost never read the articles, so they will know no better). Furthermore, Slashdot Jokes should avoid carrying any additional content, as this new content may be actually funny and subsequently Offtopic.

    Since adding content is dangerous, the most reliable option available to the would-be Slashdot Joker is the Pun. Most civilized societies long ago made all but the most subtly wrought puns serious social blunders. In truth, this works to your advantage as a Slashdot Joker in multiple ways. For the idiot Slashdot Moderators who look only at the subject of your pun (and scan it for "Microsoft," "RIAA," or other hot Slashdot Topics), the pun is nothing more than a symbol; they take it as a warming confirmation that they belong to a community because they can recognize this pun as part of the Slashdot paradigm. For the even more idiotic Slashdot Moderators who hubristically think that they are above the fray, your pun will be a clever, recursive in-joke. To manipulate these guys, all you have to do is appear to be somewhat intelligent, and they will fabricate the rest in their fecund imaginations. How quaint, they will smugly think, a pun! Do not be afraid to incorporate programming syntax into your pun, even though your real sense of humor may ache at the thought. Many Slashdot Moderators consider programming to be the most breathtakingly sexy thing possible, and so they aspire to project the image that they consider programming syntax so second nature as being capable of conveying humor. Remember, they will not actually be able to find your Slashdot Joke funny, but they will recognize your syntax and mod you up according to the rules of "Funny."

    If you have enjoyed reading this and would like this project to continue, please respond saying so! If you did not like it, and think that I am a bag of shit, that input is also welcome. I can take it! Thank you, and peace be on your house!

    --

    visit the hwky website for a lyrical genius infusion.
    1. Re:The Aspiring Slashdot Joker Part I by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Part 2 please. Make it quick, I need to learn "Funny".
      KTHXBYE

    2. Re:The Aspiring Slashdot Joker Part I by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      Gimme Part 2, I wanna be funny!

    3. Re:The Aspiring Slashdot Joker Part I by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      That is high quality trolling, sir.

  48. And why not turn lead into gold while we're at it. by Christopher+Thomas · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Maybe instead of constantly worrying about clock speeds they spend more research into being able to add larger amounts of cache or try to achieve one clock cycle access to main memory

    I'm afraid that both of these (especially the last one) sound like the infamous "let's just find a way to factor huge numbers" quote. That is - yes, it would be wonderful to be able to do this, but there are good reasons for believing that it's very difficult (not that people haven't tried).

    For caches, the problem is that larger caches are slower and more power-hungry. To compensate, you use a multilevel cache architecture, but you still have some penalties. A modern foundry could put as much cache as it wanted on to a chip (look at HP's most recent chip for an example) - but because of architectural tradeoffs, this isn't always a good idea.

    For memory, if you can find a way to get single-clock access latencies reliably without a 10x slower clock, sell it to $favourite_company and retire on the proceeds. This isn't likely to happen for _two_ reasons. Firstly, modern memory is optimized for density at the expense of speed (this is why we use DRAM and not SRAM for system memory). Secondly, because of the trace lengths, capacitance (and inductance!), and crosstalk and noise issues, it's one _hell_ of a lot harder to send data at low latency _or_ low bandwidth across a motherboard than just within a chip.

    There are ways of pushing the boundaries on all of these things, but while we're doing that, processor speeds are still getting faster, putting tougher requirements on the memory and negating most of the relative gain.

    In summary, there's a good reason that Intel (along with everyone else) is pursuing more conventional enhancements while background research into memory and caches is going on.

  49. Close, but no cigar by Glonk · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The 10GHz ALU shown was run at room temperature, and was not actually a Pentium 4 ALU at all. While it is true the Pentium 4's ALUs are double pumped, that's because they're actually 16-bit (16 x 2 = 32-bit, thus double pumped).

    The 10GHz ALU was a very limited ALU, not part of any modern processor.

    Intel is losing little ground at a time right now
    Actually, in Q4 2001 Intel gained market share and AMD lost some. But overall in 2001, AMD did gain market share, that's true.

    I still think it's because Intel wants to point to AMD and say "See? Competition!". ;)

    Intel could easily release faster CPUs right now to totally crush the Athlon, but it doesn't make sense to do so.

    1. Re:Close, but no cigar by Wesley+Felter · · Score: 2

      IIRC the P7 ALUs are 32 bits, but they're skew-pipelined so half of the operation is done in once cycle and half is done in the next cycle. So in each cycle the ALU does the lower half of one instruction and the upper half of the previous instruction. The throughput is still one 32-bit instruction per cycle per ALU.

  50. Somebody didn't read the article by Glonk · · Score: 1

    I think Intel does need to jump off it's approach to sales by clock speed.
    They don't work on that assumption. Do you see the Itanium working at 100GHz?

    The reason the Pentium 4 has a longer pipeline is because you need a longer pipeline for SMT to work properly with x86 processors. That, and the chip was designed for multimedia, where most of the time the long pipeline is far more beneficial than a deteriment to performance.

    I don't care how many GHz it is, I don't care what its IPC is, what I care about is what the GHz * IPC is.

    Maybe instead of constantly worrying about clock speeds they spend more research into being able to add larger amounts of cache or try to achieve one clock cycle access to main memory
    They already have the technology to add larger amounts of cache. It's just not economical to do so, simply because of all the transistors it takes...

    Improve memory speed
    Last time I checked, Intel didn't design system memory.
    Although it does (by far) have the most bandwidth available to the CPU out of any consumer CPU out there.

    Make instruction set more efficient (ie make alu more efficient, the intel is no RISC)
    You mean like ditching x86 and designing IA-64?

    reduce production costs
    Sure, Intel will magically wave a wand and make their production costs drop like a rock. Doesn't work like that. ;)

  51. I was somewhat disappointed, with the article by heideggier · · Score: 2, Insightful
    For an article that promised to show the inner working of how Intel makes chips, I disliked that they seemed to ignore the actual constuction of the products themselves. I got the impression that the article only wished to show how intel designed chips.

    Mostly the article seemed to run like the following, well we met some real cool guys in a lab in oregon who research all the new stuff, then we followed all the production to the guy's who QC the design at some other lab somewhere. While trying not to break a NDA

    I thought this was a bit like going to Nike and just interviewing the guy who made the prototype for the new gel heel. Or Ford and interviewing the guy who made the new concept Focus while ignoring everyone from Detroit

    Not that am trying to troll, I just wanted some interviews with the average workers at their Indonesian fab plant, maybe finding out how what kewl shit they suppy to their employees. I heard that one plant had a fully working video parlor for instance, and that intel had helped to setup schools in the local area (although this is prob marketing BS). Also, rumour has it that people who work there are all closet overclocking freak's since the price of the chips themselves are so low.

    I also thought that it might be interesting to see the who hugh some of these factories have become, that in some cases they are as large as small cities, with entire regions depending on there income.

    Throw, in some interesting facts like, most of the chinese in indonesia are not normal chinese but rather Hacka, or chinese gypsies who moved to the country due to persecution on the mainland.

    Things like that, together with reports from the labs, would have made a much more interesting article IMHO.

    --
    Pianist : Some jerk whos taught themselves how to type in rhythm
    1. Re:I was somewhat disappointed, with the article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The guy who designed the new concept focus was prolly a corporate spy from honda/toyota.
      After all... What is the focus?
      a American Civic in every way.
      I rest my case.

    2. Re:I was somewhat disappointed, with the article by mgblst · · Score: 1

      I just wanted some interviews with the average workers at their Indonesian fab plant

      Yeah, that would be interesting...

      Do you have any food? I am so hungry! No please
      dont beat me, not the stick, i work harder!

    3. Re:I was somewhat disappointed, with the article by Apostrophe+Police · · Score: 0

      then we followed all the production to the guy's who QC the design

      Please read the following link carefully before any further posting. Thank you.

      The Apostrophe Police Strike!

    4. Re:I was somewhat disappointed, with the article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      don't dis the focus it's a pretty cool car, just cause it doesn't look like a Torus which 90% of the cars on the road look like. I think that the golfs better. Funny that you said that it looks like a civic I thought that it was more european in it's design. After all who did the jap's knock off.

    5. Re:I was somewhat disappointed, with the article by heideggier · · Score: 1
      Do you have any food? I am so hungry! No please don't beat me, not the stick, i work harder!

      Yeah, I know that companies who outsource their labour have a rep for this kind of stuff. However, I think that people in those countries are a lot better off then they would be (The alternative being nothing). You have to remember that countries like America started off this way themselves. Like I said, I wish it was something that the article had looked into and didn't.

      This is not to discount companies like Nike who have a really, really bad rep for policies like this. If you don't like it then don't buy their product.

      Although, I think that people in these countries have a lot more power then they do in America due to one simple fact: People. If you close a plant in America, you know that all the people who worked there can always get other jobs or go on welfare. Do the same thing over there and you have thousands of desperate people who you are denying their sole means of income with nothing to lose.

      If you don't believe me then consider this: Run Amoke is a Indonesian saying.

      BTW, In economics, my teacher said "The reason companies set up factories in third world countries is because they wish to sell to the people in those countries someday" I think he would know what he's talking about.

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      Pianist : Some jerk whos taught themselves how to type in rhythm
    6. Re:I was somewhat disappointed, with the article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      BTW, In economics, my teacher said "The reason companies set up factories in third world countries is because they wish to sell to the people in those countries someday" I think he would know what he's talking about.

      I say he doesn't! Or that he's bent on loading you guys with a fcking shipload of BS. Man, do you really believe that??! I'm sure you were born with a brain - use it! Companies have two main reasons for establishing in third world countries: a)cheap-ass labour b)customs. That's it. And it's fair by me, why waste assets in the production line by placing your plant in an expensive place?

      However, the country (however poor) does get a large benefit from foreign industries. Maybe not Nike and such, I'm sure they already knew how to stich leather together to make a shoe. BUT - having a few thousand people trained to make high-tech electronic stuff instead of sewing soccer balls DOES increase the domestic knowledge base, to the benefit of all. That's not bad. OF COURSE companies profit from them, but they DO get a better infrastructure, trade balance and stuff...

      OK, I'm ranting, but that was the lamest statement I've seen this week...
    7. Re:I was somewhat disappointed, with the article by Dante_H · · Score: 1
      BTW, In economics, my teacher said "The reason companies set up factories in third world countries is because they wish to sell to the people in those countries someday" I think he would know what he's talking about

      Even if you wished to argue this line, there was a lot better ways of putting it than "My teacher knows best".

      Companies set up factories in low wage areas because they want to lower costs. With a lot of industries I'm sure there is some desire to sell to the citizens of the country (e.g. comparatively low cost goods such as Cigarettes) but mainly it's about costs.

      Dyson (the UK vacuum cleaner manufacturer) recently announced moving part of it's manufacturing to Asia. Why? Low labour costs (lower wages and associated costs). I'm sure as an associated benefit they will sell more of their product in Asia, but this is _not_ their primary motivation.

    8. Re:I was somewhat disappointed, with the article by heideggier · · Score: 1
      Companies set up factories in low wage areas because they want to lower costs. With a lot of industries I'm sure there is some desire to sell to the citizens of the country (e.g. comparatively low cost goods such as Cigarettes) but mainly it's about costs.

      I dunno bout that one, true labour costs can be lower, but most manufactoring deals tend to work by the factory, ie you have a factory of around 200 ppl rather then a factory of 20 like you would in America or England things tending to equal themselves out,

      You also have shipping costs and more importantly time considerations to factor in as well as the possiblity of having your stock rot on the pier due to a strike.

      There are also currency considerations to factor in with most stuff being priced in American dollars.

      In short, things never turn out to be as simple as what people make them out to be. I think that selling to the natives to be a better argument then dealing with the headache of importation. After all you set up your factory as close to your punters as you can get away with.

      I'm quite glad that this thread isn't turning into a globalization flamefest, where dude's say stuff like "we don't like what nike does to its workers" when what they really mean is "we don't what Indians wearing trainers, they should stay in the stoneage just cause we say so".

      Your right I could have put the argument better, I still think he had the right idea, though teachers tend to take pretty weird views, like that, just to prove how clever they are.

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      Pianist : Some jerk whos taught themselves how to type in rhythm
    9. Re:I was somewhat disappointed, with the article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I thought that it was more european in it's design"

      It IS more european in its design. Hence why it's been out for a while longer in europe than America :)

  52. Re:And why not turn lead into gold while we're at by drink85cent · · Score: 1

    My point was that they need to focus more on researching those fields rather than on clock speed.

    Think about what you said. More conventional enhancments from what you said = faster clock speed. Well think about the biggest bottleneck with the computer. Computers today are not limited by clock speed at all. Its memory bottlenecking. Yes there are some improvements in memory but if there werent any, your processor is just going to get to the idle state much faster and sit there much longer.

    The idea is about allocation of research resources. IF they spend more money on caching technologies and main memory speed, it will most likely yield a more efficient processor instead of executing so many useless no-ops remaining idle til memory finds its way into the cache. Each level you go up from the registers in teh memory hiearchy access time increases about 10 fold each level, even more as u get to secondary storage.

    Whats the use of a processor that zips along with the few instructions it has in cache only to wait wasting time doing nothing. The processor is constantly waiting for the slow as hell IDE hard disks which are just as fast as they were several years ago, main memory, and its own cache.

    Now, im not talking about making lead into gold, im just saying its almost obvious if you want technologically superior chips, you need to invest in the obvious bottleneck, not what the marketing department says is most effective.

  53. really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Really? Corporate policy actually doesn't permit wireless access. Which building is fully "wired" for wireless? Not any of the ones I've been to.

    1. Re:really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Won't give you my name, but...

      The building you're looking for is JF3. If you go into JF3 (that's Jones Farm campus in Hillsboro for those not familiar with Intel building codes), you'll find Intel PRO/Wireless 2011 APs installed in the ceiling at regular intervals. There's 100% coverage across the building (even the cafe) with very good signal quality. It's all connected directly into a VPN server in the DMZ, so you have to use an (Intel) VPN client to access it.

    2. Re:really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's the same story in the Dupont labs.. DP1, DP2 and DP3

      AC's near all the meeting rooms and the cafe.
      The labs are NOT wireless.. They do have TONS of Fiber and copper tho.. wireless won't do much good when you are testing 2 gigabit fiber channel.

  54. Either a brilliant troll, gay guy, or a woman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Really-

    Take a large group. Find a few freakish crimes committed by some that fall into this group. Stir some skewed stats into. Add a pinch of paranoia, pseudo-science, and FUD. Simmer to an IQ of 4.

    Bake at idiot or trollation for 30 minutes.

    Serve. Watch guests die.

    It would take me a year to write something to good (troll) or insipid (real post)! Truly bowel shaking.

  55. It's just a FIB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's the big deal?

    I'm having a chip FIBed right now.

    It's standard practice in the chip design industry. I can give you the names of a bunch of places here in the valley where you can walk in and get your chip de-capped and FIBed within a 4 hours.

    1. Re:It's just a FIB by kilrogg · · Score: 1
      Yeah, I was thinking the same thing when I read the article, they make it sound like Fibing is some kind of amazing "proprietary" intel invention or something.

      "Watchout AMD, Intel can FIB! ...they also have a few soldring irons too" :-)

  56. Underworked Chips... by sfrenchie · · Score: 0

    Hmmm...doesn't seem to be many +5's (zero at time of writing)

    Looks like those Pentiums aren't working too hard tonight!

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    "The scientist describes what is; The engineer creates what never was." - Theodore von Karman
  57. I think your missing the point by bogie · · Score: 1

    The point of this article is to show what many people have not seen, the inside of Intel. In the spirit of that I see nothing wrong with it.

    "another example of rhetorical writing pulled from th first few paragraphs

    very talented engineers [who] are focused on pushing the limits of technology"

    And while it may be teeny bit fluffy per your above quote, Anand is certainly not going to write how the Intel engineers are know-nothing smelly idiots. Christ they have a relationship with them and just maybe might need that P4 3GHz when it comes out. And no I don't think this makes Anand a non-credible source for cpu/hardware reviews. If you read any of them you know they often praise AMD.

    Geez lighten up.

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    If you wanna get rich, you know that payback is a bitch
  58. This HSF thing is pure BS in my opinion... by Kjella · · Score: 2
    AMD CPUs are FAR more likely to crack/shatter installing HSFs
    Being the guy who never liked manuals etc., I took off the four pads on both my Duron and Athlon, thinking they were part of the packaging process or something. That means I have *no* support when installing a HSF, just the core. Non the less, I've assembled, dis- and reassembled both the Duron and Athlon several times and not crushed anything yet. So I think people are plain old incompetent and clumsy, at least until proven otherwise.

    Kjella
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    Live today, because you never know what tomorrow brings
    1. Re:This HSF thing is pure BS in my opinion... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Erm, it depends on the particular heatsink and clip. Some of them are no more difficult to install or remove than a Socket 7 cooler. Others will ruin your day on a regular basis (Thermaltake for example).

    2. Re:This HSF thing is pure BS in my opinion... by Vegeta99 · · Score: 1

      I have to agree. Even with how klutzy I am, I installed it just fine.

  59. Re:And why not turn lead into gold while we're at by foobar104 · · Score: 2

    A modern foundry could put as much cache as it wanted on to a chip (look at HP's most recent chip for an example) - but because of architectural tradeoffs, this isn't always a good idea.

    Oh, I don't know about that. The PA-8700 has 2.25 MB of L2 cache, which is okay I suppose. The MIPS R14000 processors in the SGI Origin 3000 series have 8 MB of L2 cache per CPU, and they do pretty well, to put it mildly. I think your assertion that large secondary caches aren't always a good idea sounds a little weak.

  60. Re:Well, that's Itanium, and see what it got them. by megabeck42 · · Score: 1

    Intel doesn't care about efficiency, megahertz, or pretty much anything except... megabucks.

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    fnord.
  61. article showing nothing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm sorry but I have to flame this article:

    -nothing new: higher voltages == higher speed. I don't only know why, but OC'ers do it all the time.
    -multiprocessor: I think intel is one of the last uC makers which actually makes mono-processor chips. SoC's are coming and new stuff too...
    -Two chips, a slow one and a fast... How un-original. This is just another way of saying that your process-control is not good enough. You make two identical chips, test them for speed, one isn't good enough (so you turn down the voltage :-) and voila!!! The best part is that someone buys it.

    Thats all for now.

  62. Inside Intel... by BLAG-blast · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Hey,

    Let's not forget to take a complete look inside intel..., not just at there technology.

    FaceIntel.com

    Nice company.... NOT!

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    M0571y H@rml355.
  63. Seems like it could be a security nightmare... by Schwarzchild · · Score: 2
    If it was improperly done. I've read that there are a lot of 802.11 networks that have no security implemented, of course, Intel will have security implemented since it would be brain dead to not have it. AMD and others would probably love to hook into Intel's wireless network, in a passing car, if they could!

    "There is a strong focus on networking and more specifically wireless
    networking at Intel. Intel's campus alone is entirely wired for wireless
    internet access for their employees."

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  64. Interesting Commercial by z_gringo · · Score: 1

    That was interesting, but is reads like a really long advertisement for Intel.

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  65. What goes on inside the labs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm quite dissapointed i must say. When I saw "what goes on inside the labs" I was hoping for some intel gossip. E.g. people have orgies in their bunny suits, people playing baseball with the silicon wafers. But all the article is about is chip production.

    DAMN! I got my hopes up too soon...

  66. Re:Well, that's Itanium, and see what it got them. by UncleFluffy · · Score: 1

    " They haven't successfully introduced a really new architecture since the i860/i960, and that was YEARS ago. "



    The i860 and i960 were very different architectures, the i860 was a fp number cruncher and the i960 was an early superscalar-ish architecture (co-developed, iirc, with Siemens, or someone else beginning with S, anyway).



    The i960 was a beauty to write code for. i860 wasn't.

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  67. Yes, Intel is driven by engineering... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just like the wonderfully useful, simple and elegant IA-64 ISA proves.

    Wait a minute...

  68. Pharmacist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    I'd like to be a Pharmacist too.

    That way I could get my drugs legally and even with a bulk discount.

  69. Jeffrey Dahmer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Jeffrey Dahmer was a fag and liked murdering people and eating them later on.

    Most psychopaths are, in fact, sexually deviant - often homosexual. Furthermore, most filthy paedophiles are faggots as well.

    This pretty much destroys your silly arguments.

  70. Re:Help! I'm stuck in jail! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pharmacists are assholes!

    N. Bush
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  71. Become a lowly Green badge today! by Pontiac · · Score: 1

    The way into Intel is through the Green Badge (Contractor with good pay but no bennies) eventuly go blue (Intel Employee) and get your pay cut in half but pick up some killer bennies)..
    I worked in Intel's Dupont, WA CV labs.
    Sign up for a 1 year contract through CDI (Do a search on Monster for CDI and check the job listings with Intel lab locations)

    Quite honestly the job can get quite boring.. Yes sure there is fun stuff like fiddling with tearabyte san systems, "testing" DVD's by watching movies on 37" monitors and Itanium boxes with 64 GIGS of memory but by the time you have loaded Whistler so many times you can recite the CD-Key from memory it gets a bit boring.

    Imagine this as a work day.. Your boss hands you a case of hard drives and a stack of SCSI cards.. Your job.. load up 5 drives each in 3-4 Itanium workstations, load Whistler on each one.. run a list of tests.. load Linux on em.. run more tests.. repeat untill you have tested the whole case of drives.. repeat the entire process with 3-4 brands or SCSI cards.. then go get the RAID cards.. repeat again.. Next week you get a new case of drives..

    Guess what.. same thing all over again. Sometime in the middle wander down to the other side of the lab and chat with they guys hackin linux kernels to run on the new Mckinleys.

    Still I learned a ton and got to play with next years toys last year.

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  72. Re:And why not turn lead into gold while we're at by Christopher+Thomas · · Score: 2

    Oh, I don't know about that. The PA-8700 has 2.25 MB of L2 cache, which is okay I suppose. The MIPS R14000 processors in the SGI Origin 3000 series have 8 MB of L2 cache per CPU, and they do pretty well, to put it mildly.

    Large amounts of cache benefit niche applications. You see huge caches on server chips because a) they happen to run this kind of niche load, and b) servers are optimized for performance above all else, which means a performance gain of a few percent is worth the cost of adding more cache (while a consumer would balk at paying twice as much).

    Cache benefits servers that are running many, many tasks at once - a context switch won't necessarily end up purging the cache if it's big enough. Consumer machines don't usually have this kind of load (or we'd all be running dual-processor machines).

    Some scientific applications will benefit, but only some of them. The rest either have access patterns that don't lend themselves to cacheing, or use blocking techniques to increase locality enough that even a smaller cache will be adequate (incremental return becomes low beyond a certain point).

    For the vast majority of applications, we're already well into the realm of diminishing returns. Simple proof of this: We've had 256k and 512k caches on consumer chips for quite a while. Linewidth is fine enough that we have the ability to put much more cache on without taking a yield penalty. If doubling the cache size was a sure-fire performance boost for consumer chips, both Intel and AMD would have done it already.

  73. Re:And why not turn lead into gold while we're at by Christopher+Thomas · · Score: 2

    My point was that they need to focus more on researching those fields rather than on clock speed.
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    Now, im not talking about making lead into gold, im just saying its almost obvious if you want technologically superior chips, you need to invest in the obvious bottleneck, not what the marketing department says is most effective.

    And my point is that Intel will market what they expect to be able to put on the shelves next year. *That's* why you hear about their other processor tweaks.

    Of *course* Intel is spending money on improving their memory subsystems! But you don't hear about it, because they haven't made any breakthroughs yet (RamBus was the last proposed improvement they invested in, and that failed spectacularly).

    It is also in Intel's interest to invest in improvements that are likely to bear fruit quickly. Improving the memory subsystem isn't the only way to improve processor performance, so they're investigating other methods as well.