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Excellent Hacks to the ReplayTV 4000

Hit the link below to find links to assorted hacks done to the extremely cool ReplayTV 4000 PVR. Thanks to jptsetme for submitting links to hacks like hard drive upgrades, software to download mpegs, edit the guide, and systems under development to automate create of VCDs and DVDs from Replay's. It's exciting seeing so much headway being made so fast, and evidence that this is one heck of a machine. "The Replay hackers at AVS forum have done an amazing job on the new ReplayTV 4000's. You can now do some very cool things with this new PVR.

You can increase recording space (by either replacing the existing drive, or adding an additional one.) This has, of course, been done with Tivos and older Replays in the past. Not only has this hack been adapted for the Replay4000 model (including custom sized photo partitions and preserving existing shows), but Replay has also recently released new software that removes the previous 137G per drive limitation, so you can now turn any ReplayTV4000 into a 320G model with a couple of 160G drives and a PC (Linux, Win2k, XP, or with a Linux boot disk on an x86 box with a good enough BIOS to recognize the drive size.)
http://rtvpatch.sourceforge.net/

But, you might decide you don't need to open the box at all, since you can now offload your shows to your PC and then serve them back to the ReplayTV4000 with your PC masquerading as another ReplayTV4000 on your local network, giving you nearly limitless storage capacity. [Note: this does not use the internet sharing feature, which is so slow over typical broadband as to be practically unusable. This is streaming the show in realtime from your PC back to your Replay4000, using the same mechanism two Replays use to stream shows back and forth over your local network.]

ReplayPC (C/C++, Windows, Linux, Mac. A simple text mode utility for extracting mpg files from ReplayTV4000 PVRs via TCP/IP)
http://replaypc.sourceforge.net/

Replayer (Pure Java. Java GUI utility allows you to extract mpg files from your ReplayTV 4000 to your PC)
http://www.forbesfield.com/replayer.html

Replay Server (built on PHP for Apache. Allows you to serve downloaded shows to a ReplayTV (on your LAN only) from your PC as if your PC was a ReplayTV)
http://206.124.140.12/rtv/

SwapDV (J++, windoze only. Allows you to download shows from your ReplayTV 4000, serve downloaded shows as if your box was a ReplayTV 4000, and edit the "guide" provided by your PC. i.e. capabilities of both Replayer and Replay Server, but only for Windows.)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&a mp;threadid=116035

A number of users are also working on burning shows to VCD, SVCD, XSVCD and DVD, with moderate success.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&a mp;threadid=115338
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&a mp;threadid=106437

Lastly, there has also been a hack developed to remove macrovision from the old Panasonic Showstoppers (effectively transforming them into ReplayTV3xxx machines.)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&a mp;threadid=118170."

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  1. Can you imagine.... by Aexia · · Score: 3, Funny

    a beo-... Ehhhh. Too easy.

    Can you imagine a Beowulf cluster of MPAA Nazis descending upon this?

    1. Re:Can you imagine.... by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 3, Funny
      Can you imagine a Beowulf cluster of MPAA Nazis descending upon this?
      That would be a GRENDEL cluster...
  2. Phone Home by loydcc · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is there a hack to keep it from ratting out my preferences to replay Brittney Spears commercials. That would be a truly useful hack. Until then I think I'll stick with my 1/2 inch tape VCR. Upgrading the storage capacity is easy with it's modular cartridge accaptance port. And programming what I want to watch costs me nothing.

    1. Re:Phone Home by Jekyll · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, yes, there is. That is if what you are referring to is what TiVo said about its users. It's called opt-out. It takes one phone call to TiVo, and after that, your super-secret anonymous information isn't taken.

    2. Re:Phone Home by loydcc · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Replay TV could be a better neilson box than the peice of trash they use now.

      Who buys the PVR's? Geeks and early adopters ie the people with money or desire to get the coolest gadgets. But then the average household is left out of ratings system. So instead of Americas Funniest Home Videos taking the ratings Cowboy Bebop takes the ratings. (I know they don't run opposite each other it's just an example of the two different kinds of viewers.) Eithor way the outcome is skewed.

      When the average viewer can afford a PVR or has no choice but get one cause the video cassette makers went the way of the Vinyl Recordplayer, then maybe Replay TV or Tivo could be a better Neilson Box.

      Until then TV is pretty much going to suck 90% no matter what they put on it. The scam is that the ratings system today only pleases those who volunteer to be watched. And those sheep enjoy 'Touched by an Angel'

    3. Re:Phone Home by loydcc · · Score: 3, Funny

      That's exactly my point. The current system does skew things. Who actually watches Americas Funniest Home Videos? I don't know a single person who watches it and I know like hundreds of people. Yet under the Neilson system it wins it's time slot.

  3. Why not simply use your PC? by Graabein · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Why buy another box, why not just use your PC?

    There are several products out there which allow you to use your PC as a TVR and record directly to VCD. Just one example: Hauppauge WinTV-PVR (no affiliation, yadda, yadda).

    Anyone tried this product or others like it? Experiences: Good, bad, indifferent?

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    1. Re:Why not simply use your PC? by Lumpy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Sure you can with a anemic little computer (Pentium MMX 266) and a crappy ol' bttv tuner card.

      Go and download Nupple-video and follow his tips on there to heppily converth the Nupplevideo output to mpeg2 files then buy yourself a nice Hollywood+ mpeg playback card. Now add crontab, mplayer, and spice it with the at daemon to make it easier, bake at 350 with your favorite Linux distro (I choose Slackware 8.0 for it's low fat high quality ingredients) and you have a basic PVR that will gladly play it's video onto your Television without any silly content viewing protection, statistic collection and selling, or government spyware... that eye on the Tivo... I know it's watching me!

      it's nothing like a tivo, no FF rewind, pause, or all theo other fluff, but you can make a nice web control panel , point, click, watch Invader Zim!

      no it's not easy, no it wont be pretty, no it's not DVD quality with 6.1 surround.. but who cares. it's free, open, and cooler than a Tivo.

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  4. My Wishlist Hack - Canada by Outlyer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Ok, I have just one request. Someone hack these things to support Canada. It still boggles the mind that while TIVO supports the UK, they ignore Canada. I mean, it's more than just igloos and hockey up here, eh?

    In all seriousness, this is the machine (more so than the TIVO) that seems to be the perfect machine to "fake" guide support on. Unlike the TIVO which dials up and grabs guides from TIVO, the ReplayTV can use your broadband connection. If someone could figure out the host (ideally the hostname) that it connects to, we could trick it into going to a substitute host, grabbing the listing there.

    Yeah, I'm simplifying it slightly. For one, who knows what format the data is in. And whether it uses some sort of encryption. However, unlike TIVO, ReplayTV doesn't sell subscriptions, so they'd have no financial interest in protecting the guide format.

    (By the way, if anyone can confirm this, my theory about the lack of TIVO and ReplayTV support in Canada is that it's due to the rather strict Canadian privacy laws, and rules around Canadian Content.)

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    1. Re:My Wishlist Hack - Canada by jarodss · · Score: 3, Informative

      Bell ExpressVu has a PVR

      Does that help?

    2. Re:My Wishlist Hack - Canada by evil_one · · Score: 3, Informative

      Being a Canadian Satellite company employee, I can tell you that, no, it doesn't really help. Although the PVR (which is essentially a Dish Network 501) is a great unit, you can't do any of the cool hacks to it that you can do with the Tivo and Replay units. If you have a PC with a tv capture card, you can do everything with a 4500 or better ExpressVu that you can do with the PVR (though it's a lot messier and arguably more expensive) and then some. The PVR is just a nicely integrated package, giving you timered recordings and pause/play buttons.

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    3. Re:My Wishlist Hack - Canada by jtl · · Score: 3, Informative

      We know the hostname (rns.replaytv.net). We know most of the data formats, and it wouldn't take someone with interest long to fill in the missing details. This part of the conversation isn't encrypted, and even if it were, we know the encryption system At least one person knows the data formats from earlier models well enough to do exactly this already.

      See http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&t hreadid=116146

  5. The Replay units are nice, but... by freebsd+guy · · Score: 5, Informative
    As a proud owner of a Philips DirecTivo unit with TivoNet and (most recently) a ReplayTV 4000, I have had a chance to evaluate both machines and see their relative strengths and weaknesses. The results have been interesting:
    • Neither unit forces you to pay for service (with the Tivo, just load 2.5xtreme and turn on "SubTest"). However, the Replay units are sold at a significant markup and the Tivo units are sold below cost. I'm no market analysist, but three guesses which one is better for consumers?
    • Tivo can't update the software without notice, unless you're dumb enough to plug the unit into your phone line. Replay requires that you maintain a connection to their servers so they can tamper with your property after purchase.
    • The Tivo has a 30 second commercial skip feature too, contrary to popular opinion. SELECT-PLAY-SELECT-3-0-SELECT.
    • The Tivo runs Linux, meaning that you can cross-compile anything to run on it, short of MS Office and IE. What can you run on the Replay? Next to nothing.
    • The Tivo has a programmer-friendly interface. It has native tcl support and provides easy ways to access the system database, called MFS. Does Replay offer this? I think not.
    • The Tivo gets its guide data off the air; the Replay needs to connect to a central server to get it. What happens when Replay goes bankrupt? You got it - no more guide data.
    For these reasons and many usability reasons, I will be returning my Replay unit before the 30-day exchange period expires. It's just an overpriced piece of crap.

    freebsd guy

    1. Re:The Replay units are nice, but... by Zaknafein500 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Neither unit forces you to pay for service (with the Tivo, just load 2.5xtreme and turn on "SubTest"). However, the Replay units are sold at a significant markup and the Tivo units are sold below cost. I'm no market analysist, but three guesses which one is better for consumers?

      This is innaccurate. In fact, if you follow the instructions above, you are stealing TiVo service. TiVo requires a subscription, either 9.95/monthly or 249/product lifetime. The sole purpose of 2.5xtreme (this has been debated, but no one is going to change my mine) is to facilitate the theft of TiVo service and of DirecTV.

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    2. Re:The Replay units are nice, but... by ncc74656 · · Score: 4, Informative
      The Tivo has a 30 second commercial skip feature too, contrary to popular opinion. SELECT-PLAY-SELECT-3-0-SELECT.

      This also is deceptive. You are just fast forwarding for 30 secs.

      Wrong. There is a backdoor code (given by the original poster) that enables 30-second skip. I've tried it; it works. I found high-speed scanning at medium speed works better for me, though...there's no correction for overshoot with 30-second skip.

      Where the original poster was wrong was in saying that TiVo gets its guide info over-the-air. Since there's no TV station that provides this service, that's impossible. TiVo phones home for its guide info, just as ReplayTV presumably does.

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  6. Ah, then there is sharing of the shows (URL). by Tide · · Score: 5, Informative


    Lest us not forget the site that lets all of us ReplayTV 4000 users find new 'friends' to share shows with. With over 100 members and 1200 shows, its not a bad place to start to find that lost episode of The Tick.

    Planet Replay

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  7. Internet Sharing by imuffin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I really like the internet sharing feature of this box. I understand that a lot of people have capped upstream bandwidth from home, and that because of this it would take forever to send a show to someone... But hopefully these draconian restrictions will be lifted... When we all have decent broadband, which might happen in the not-so-distant future, this will be a really cool feature.

    Now:
    Me: Dude, I missed Futurama last night! Can you capture it, encode it, and then put it on your server so I can grab it?
    Friend: "I guess..."

    The Future:
    Me: "Dude, I missed Futurama last night!"
    Friend: "No problem... " hits a couple of buttons.. "You'll have it in an hour."

    1. Re:Internet Sharing by TeknoHog · · Score: 3, Informative
      Dude, I missed Futurama last night! Can you capture it, encode it, and then put it on your server so I can grab it?

      Lando already did that for you.

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  8. One more piece of hardware for Rob to break? by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Funny

    After looking in on Rob's journal this morning, this comes up. Is there a coincidence how things get broken at Rob's? Kathleen are you reading this? ;)

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  9. We are trying to do this, wanna help? by fons · · Score: 5, Interesting



    http://davedina.apestaart.org

    With a couple of friends we are trying to make a linux based home entertainment system. Eventually we want te be able to:
    - play mp3's and serve them on our lan. (works)
    - have a nifty audio database with webinterface (almost works)
    - serve a webcam (works)
    - play dvd's (works)
    - rip dvd's (kinda works)
    - play divx-cd's (works)
    - watch tv (works) and decode pay-tv :-) (almost works)
    - record from tv (works, but no automated TV-guide)
    - serve recorded DVD's and TV-shows on lan (works)
    - burn recorded stuff onto cd's
    - play games (works)
    - create a nice interface so we can control it with a normal and simpel remote.

    We can still use some help. If you're interested go to our site, read the faq and download what we already have.

    1. Re:We are trying to do this, wanna help? by NumberSyx · · Score: 3, Informative

      record from tv (works, but no automated TV-guide)

      I know there is a perl script ruuning around that downloads TV listings from the TV guide website. Perhaps you could write another script which, once the listing is downloaded, it would grep for the shows you wanted, then setup an at job to record at the proper time. If you wanted to, I imagine it would not be too difficult to slap a Tk front end on it to make it easy to use.

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  10. Re:Homemade PVR by fons · · Score: 3, Informative


    we're trying to do this


    although far from finished you can download what we already have at:


    http://davedina.apestaart.org

  11. Re:Why use a PVR? - look at SnapStream PVS by dodald · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I have found this program ShowShifter to work 10x better then SnapStream. With showshifter you can pause live TV, and pick up where you left off (No rewind though). And (A plus over SnapStream) you can watch as you record. It (like SnapStream) offers timed recordings, however can not currently download tv listings. The "trial" version ShowShifter is also less naggy, and more functional then the trial version of snapstream. Check it out. (Also only Windows).

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  12. Re:What's your point? by Zaknafein500 · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you've ever used a DirecTV system, you would realize that DTV provides about two weeks of guide data no matter what receiver you use. Meaning that Tivo's "service" gives you ... surprise! nothing you're not already paying for.

    TiVo takes the guide data and indexes it into a format that allows for you to find and record shows quickly and easily. It allows you to tell TiVo to record 24 on Fox every week, and it does it. The guide data comes from DirecTV, but the massive sorting and indexing is done by TiVo. This is what you pay for. To use TiVo, you are required to have a subcription, bar none. If you are using the service without paying for it, you are stealing.

    It is true that xtreme does not, in and of itself, steal DirecTV. However, if someone where trying to steal DirecTV on a DirecTiVo, it is a component, since it allows the daily calls to be disabled.

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  13. Re:Fantastic by KernelHappy · · Score: 5, Informative

    If I recall, HDTV is 1.5 Gbps uncompressed</snip>

    Uncompressed NTSC video (720x480) would use about 237mbit/second (720x480x24x29.97 (drop frame)), but we don't record that uncompressed. Instead we compress it before we transmit or store it digitally and in the case of DSS/Tivo combo boxes the units store the compressed stream exactly as it is received. IIRC most HDTV programs are broadcast using a 18Mbit/sec stream. This isn't exactly tiny but in a day of 160GB harddrives its manageable. In fact DV uses a M-JPEG like codec that consumes about 25Mbit/sec for standard NTSC video and current consumer PC technologies are up to the task of handling it. Storing an exact copy of a HDTV broadcast is quite acheivable given current consumer level equipment.

    So the problem is political rather than technological. Media companies view the move to HDTV and digital video in general as their chance to correct the "mistakes" they made with previous copiable formats. These companies do not want their content to fall under the previous fair use controls and they are draging their feet while they frantically search for a way to control every aspect of their content even if it impinges on the consumers fair use ability. This is evident in the vast array of manuevers going on behind the scenes to get DRM in place before the consumer HDTV explosion happens.

    Late in the game, hardware manufacturers jumped to using encrypted streams over IEEE1394 (Firewire/i.Link) to the display device. So if you purchased a HDTV decoder 1-2 years ago there is the possibility/probability you may not be able to use whatever the standard format of choice for recording content is without buying a new decoder or additional hardware.

    The simple fact is that the powerhouses behind the scenes don't want us timeshifting their prescious HDTV content until they can control every aspect of how we use it.

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