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Nuclear Mutant Flies Are Good For Africa?

D\monix writes "According to this article in Reuters, the International Atomic Energy Agency is going to start releasing massive numbers of tsetse flies "sterilized by a burst of radiation" into sub Saharan Africa in order to outnumber and thus eradicate the local fly population. My favorite quote? "The impact of the fly is difficult to exaggerate." You're damn right it is. Anyone else out there think pumping large numbers of mutant insects into the environment might be a bad idea?"

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  1. Dont get your ilinformed knickers in a knot. by myosin · · Score: 5, Informative

    Of course these arent /mutant/ flys. theve just been sterilised. No more radioactive than usual, and cetainly not going to pass in theyre sterility to the next generation :).

    I for one do NOT A think pumping large numbers of mutant insects into the environment might be a bad idea.

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    1. Re:Dont get your ilinformed knickers in a knot. by HerringFlavoredFowl · · Score: 5, Informative

      Ummm ... hate to break this to you but they have been doing this kind of stuff since I was a kid. It is one of the standard method used to control fruit flies in florida ...

      The new twist here is that they are doing it on a new type of insect that apears to have a fairly long life.

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  2. Not genetic variants by pubjames · · Score: 5, Informative

    The original poster does not understand the issue.

    These are flys that have been sterilized by radiation. They are not genetic mutants. If they will live their little lifetime, and then die. Their genes will not be passed on to another generation.

    "Mutants" are offspring which have different characteristics to their parents because genetic mutation has occurred.

    I am against releasing genetically modified organisms into the environment. But this is not what they are talking about. These are sterilized files. Not mutants. There is no danger here.
    If it reduces the number of disease carrying files, then this is a very good thing.

  3. More resources.. - TAKE TWO by Andorion · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's another paper in PDF format.

    Here's a very interesting excerpt, for all those who can't figure out why this might actually work:

    Tsetse life-cycle. The tsetse is a unique insect. It gives birth every 9-10 days to a full-grown larva, which immediately burrows into the soil andforms a pupa. Thus the egg and larval stages of tsetse are notsubject to the usual hazards and losses experienced by otherinsects.Female tsetse produce at most nine larvae. Tsetse fliesunquestionably have the lowest reproduction potential of anyinsect, and this fact makes them a good target for SIT. A single mating provides sufficient sperm for fertilizationthrough the female's 90-100-day lifespan. Since females usuallymate only once, if they are mated by a sterile male they will notproduce any offspring.

  4. it worked in Winnipeg by Herr_Nightingale · · Score: 5, Informative

    When i lived in Winnipeg, Manitoba (somewhere in Canada, for all you Americans) they did the same thing to mosquitoes. Sterilize millions (males, mostly), send 'em out to mate (they mate only once) and then watch the population plummet. It's a trillion times safer than DDT and the other killer poisons they like to fill the air with during skeeter season.

  5. Re:The principle concept eludes me by Baki · · Score: 5, Informative

    The non-sterilized (genetically engineered is something entirely different) flies chance to find each other to mate amongst massive number of sterilized flies is drastically reduced. Thus also the amount of offspring.

    Moreover, if only 2 flies were left on, say, 100 square kilometer, what do you think the chance is that they meet?

  6. do get angry by twitter · · Score: 5, Informative
    I used to work for Dr. Edward Lambremont, who did some pioneering work in this area, back in the 60's. The idea is to elliminate a vector of human disease, sleeping sickness in this case. The idea worked. Sterile flies, captured or raised fat and happy in captivity, overwhelm the breeding population and can eliminate the wild population. Tests were done on various islands and both the vector and the disease were erradicated. The island's echo systems were not destroyed as other non disease carrying insects took the place of the erradicated flies. Anyone really interested can look up the work and go visit the test sites.

    Those opposed might do the same, before their ill founded fears keep the world from using a 40 year old, tested and verified idea to spare some 400,000 lives and untold livestock a year. Yes, ludites piss me off.

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  7. Re:Just wanted to correct something... by Alien54 · · Score: 5, Informative
    Not a quick commentary on how bad the radiation is for the fly, but on how bad the fly is for Africa.

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    let's see - the Tsetse Fly is responsible for disease in millions of people, causing untold suffering. If we spread millions of Sterile (unable to reproduce = no offspring) flies, this means that the population will not suffer the disease rate, and so the native african population will not suffer the diseases and increased death rates associated with it. As a result the population will boom, and many more people will die for other reason, such as Aids.

    So I guess you are right, we should not sterilize the flies and release them into the wild, crashing the fly population, and attempting fly genocide, because the sterile (unable to reproduce flies = no offspring) might cross breed producing dangerous young, spreading their infertility to lots of other species.

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    you get the idea

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  8. As someone who once lived there ... by Christianfreak · · Score: 5, Informative

    I know this post is going to be buried but I'll say it anyway:

    As someone who lived in Africa I can tell you first hand how nasty those flies are. Their huge and they hurt when they bite you. Fortunatly I was vaccinated against some of the nasty diseases they carry such as Yellow Fever and African Sleeping Sickness. Unfortunatly most of the population of Africa is too poor to even know what a vaccine is much less afford one. So any idea to get rid of the flies is a good one.

    I'm ashamed by the /. FUD on this one. These flies aren't 'nuclear' or 'radioactive'. They've been steralized (by radiation) the idea being that there will be so many sterile flies that populations of flies will decrease as ones 'in the wild' mate with the sterile ones and don't produce offspring.