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Lawsuit Over Crippled Charley Pride Music Disks Settled

thumbtack writes: "In a follow up to the /. story "Record Companies Sued Over Charley Pride CD" last fall, Boycott-RIAA is reporting in this story that the case has been settled with Fahrenheit Entertainment, Music City Records, and Sunncomm. They have agreed to a list of 10 items that were the basis of the lawsuit. In addition following the link to the settlement document (pdf) the plaintiffs got a little cash to pay their lawyers as well."

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  1. Most important by hether · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I see this as the most important point:

    6. Defendants shall include a warning that the Charlie Pride CD is not designed to work in DVD players or Computer CD-ROM players;

    As long as they mark the cd, and people know ahead that the product will not work for them, they can protect all the cds they want to. People will just learn to avoid cds that are marked that way.

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    1. Re:Most important by sulli · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Not so - CDNow, Amazon, et al. have reasonable return policies and active message boards. Take a look at the "More Fast and Furious" page on Amazon .. tons of complaints. It is very likely that these vendors will warn their customers, because returns and chargebacks are very expensive!

      As for me as a buyer: I use my iPod for all my music, so I have no plans to buy any CD I can't rip into real MP3. Warnings will help me make reasonable decisions here. Vendors who wish to sell crippled CDs will need to find other customers.

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  2. Wow! by PowerTroll+5000 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They agreed to ten demands and even coughed up lawyer fees. Seems like one of the most powerful weapons one can use is public humiliation. If this went on, more and more of the public would learn about this.

    The only problem is they're going to continue using this copy protection. How many other distributors will adopt this or similar protection schemes in the future?

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  3. Read the fine print.... by Dutchmaan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You just know that "warning" is going to be in tiny little fine white print at the bottom of the CD mixed in with all the other text no one ever reads.

  4. Limited victory by danspalding · · Score: 5, Insightful

    IANAL, but two points on this:

    My understanding is that a settlement is _not_ an admission or wrongdoing. So while this settlement may give moral support to others, it won't give you legal leverage against a music label in the future. (the whole point of a settlement is that it's cheaper and quicker than going to court, and since no legal decision is made, no precedent is set)

    Second, it's not clear how much the label can get away with if their CDs give consumers explicit warning. People will just "avoid" CDs that are hobbled? There are five music labels that control the industry, from signing artists to what gets produced and distributed to what gets played on the radio.

    Courtney Love, Tom Petty and others are suing those labels on the basis that their contracts for artists are basically identical - and uniformly screw the artist. We could be looking at a parallel situation here.

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  5. You are the weakest link, goodbye! by BlueJay465 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People are still stupid enough to buy it anyways. They don't read warnings simply since they are jaded by the sheer amount they get daily. Not on CD covers (besides, the RIAA would probably print it with a 2 point font) not on styrofoam coffee cups from McDonalds, not on aerosol canisters, not on ladders. Record stores will only have more unhappy customers, like the 45 year old secretary who hasn't a clue about this whole debate and buys Kenny G's greatest hits so she can listen to on her work computer, only to find out that she isn't responsible enough to do it without the permission of the RIAA.

    Maybe it is good that the RIAA lost in the long run, but they are now absolved of any liability for stupid people who could potentially help our cause...

    On the flipside, this may raise more awareness as to the dirty deeds of the RIAA by creating more unhappy customers.

  6. Not that big a win by st0rmshad0w · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Remember this is just a settlement, not a victory in a court of law. While it is good news, its also mostly a stalling tactic while the record companies figure out their next move. Personally, I still want to see ALL crippled (in any way) "CDs" segregated from true CDs in every place they are sold.

  7. Contributing factor by darketernal · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think one of the vital contributing factors was that Music City Records provided the CD playing software that would track user habits - NON-ANONYMOUSLY - and use it for free marketing research.

    If this had not happened would the RIAA have not lost?

  8. Re:Point of the article by daniel_howell · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, it's more than that. The settlement requires the CD maker to put warnings on the protected CD. If a manufacturer has to alert buyers to the fact that this CD won't work on some computers, DVD players and MP3 players then that's going to hurt sales.

    And manufacturers are going to think twice before implimenting something that hurts their sales.

    The efforts we've seen so far have been low key, trying to put protection on without making a big deal out of it. Forcing such protection schemes to be advertized on the product will be a big disincentive to their use.

  9. Only applies to Charley Pride CD, not future CDs by rarose · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you notice, everything is specific to the single instance of the Charley Pride CD. Who cares? What was really needed was an agreement like this for labeling *ALL* future discs.

    Given that... I don't see how this is much of a victory; a draw at best.

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  10. Re:A win? by Misch · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No, in fact, quite the opposite. Because it didn't go to court and wasn't judged, it won't be able to be used. It means next to nothing if it will ever be brought up in court.

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  11. first sale! huraah! by poemofatic · · Score: 4, Insightful


    Right of First Sale
    4. Defendants shall not impair or limit in any manner the ability and right of consumers to lawfully sell or transfer ownership of the Charlie Pride CD to others who shall have the equal ability to download related digital music files;


    What a breath of fresh air. I think this is what the music labels are really after here. Not mass piracy (ala asian copy shops) but abridging first sale rights. And the good news is that in this and the adobe vs. softman case, the courts are upholding our rights.

    So now the battle shifts to hardware and standards bodies, as the content cartels will try to get through firmware what they can't achieve in the courts.

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