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Quantum-Cascade Polychromatic Lasers

eznihm writes: "This article describes a new laser, developed by Lucent and others, that emits a band of light and operates at room temperature. "The result: a beam of high intensity at every wavelength from 6 to 8 micrometers, in the so-called midinfrared range.""

158 comments

  1. Cool! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does that mean we're half way there to light sabres? ;)

    1. Re:Cool! by Jeb+Beckman · · Score: 1

      Excellent comment! Now how do you regulate the length?

  2. Uh oh, someone find Gordon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
    With this type of technology, pretty soon Lucent (Aka Black Mesa) is going to attempt some experiment that will cause a resonance cascade, then a cascade failure.

    Egads, someone find Gordon, and find him quick! I don't want to be a slave to some bigheaded multidimensonal being! (Bill Gates is bad enough)

    1. Re:Uh oh, someone find Gordon by TheAlmightyQ · · Score: 1

      The next thing you know they'll be researching a way to attach these frickin' lasers to shark's heads.

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    2. Re:Uh oh, someone find Gordon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you'll find most people believe you to be a repetitive, humor-impaired moron with little to add to any conversation.

  3. Isn't this a contradiction? by calags · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Pardon my ignorance (it's been a very long time since my last physics class) but aren't lasers *SUPPOSED* to be monochromatic? I thought one thing that characterizes a laser is that all the photons are in the same phase. It must be a limitation of my imagination but how can this happen if you have multiple wavelengths?

    Can someone who know more tell me what's going on here?

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    1. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by de+Selby · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, really, a LASER is anything that operates by lasing. You remember, the light amplification by stimulation of... bla bla bla.

      The truth is, lasers (even the standard HeNe) don't have to emit a strait beam or a single wavelength of light to be lasers.

    2. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by scotch · · Score: 3, Informative
      The way I learned it in my laser physics class (a long time ago) was that lasers in general had these properties:
      • monochromatic
      • coherent
      • low-divergence/parallel
      • high intensity
      The devices build in this article don't have the first two properties, at least. Indeed the device sounds more akin to a "white" light LED (white in the sense of broad spectrum, I know they are infrared).

      Of course, these are just properties, and might not actually be a working definition of a laser - maybe if you satisfy the acronym, you're a LASER (light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation, for those that don't know).

      I could reach behind me to look at Svelto's "Laser Physics" book, but I'm too lazy.

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    3. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by jacoberrol · · Score: 2, Informative

      LASER = Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation.

      Essentially, some material (usually a crystal) is excited, which causes it to emit photons. Usually, because of properties unique to the material, it will only emit photons of a certain wavelength, but this is not a requirement. Lucent's LASER is simply built using a material that emits photons of many wavelenths.

    4. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by scotch · · Score: 2, Informative
      This is a pretty poor definition of a laser, and would include such things as glow in the dark toys, light bulbs, and just about any thing that emits light.

      The key part of the laser acronym is "Stimulated". What happens is electrons are temporarily pumped to higher energy levels. What would normally happen is that the electron would spontaneously drop to a lower energy level resulting in an emitted photon (this happens in all kinds of material and light emitting devices). In a laser however, an existing photon passing the atom with the excited electron Stimulates the emission of the photon, and in doing so, the two photons will be in phase. This is how you get coherent light out of a laser. Of course, it takes special selection of materials, controlled electron pumping, and good optics for this process to build up to appreciable levels

      Furthermore, this:

      "some material (usually a crystal)"

      is wrong: While the first lasers were cryptals (ruby), and some still are (Nd:Yag and others), I think you'll find that lasers these days are usually semiconductors (as measured by shear number - think CD/DVD players) or some variant of gas / chemical reaction (as measured by total power - think Chemical Oxygen Iodine Lasers (COIL) or HF/DF lasers)

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    5. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      >LASER = Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation.

      LASER = Looking At Source Erases Retina.

    6. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by caffeinated_bunsen · · Score: 5, Informative

      Typically, you're correct. Traditional lasers emit almost all their energy at a single wavelength, with very small deviations of energy (determined by the time it takes an atom to emit a photon, thanks to the good ol' uncertainty principle, dE*dt>h/(2pi)). What Lucent did here is to create a whole mess of lasers in one package, which all emit slightly different wavelengths. The wavelength uncertainties overlap enough that you get a fairly smooth distribution of energy, rather than a single, well-defined peak at one wavelength.

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    7. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by Drakula · · Score: 1

      FYI, semiconductors are crystals.

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    8. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah - the whole idea is that the waves are all in synch, so they reinforce each other instead of interfering. So what's the point of having waves at different frequencies?

    9. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're crystals, but the light is being emitted BY them (like a light emitting diode) as opposed to passing through them (ruby).

    10. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by scotch · · Score: 1

      Semiconductor lasers aren't crystal lasers.

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    11. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by Drakula · · Score: 1

      Explain to me where the light comes from then, in a ruby laser.

      Oh wait, let me.

      The crystal is pumped, with light or electrically, and generates light. The generated light leaves the crystal, hits a mirror, and re-enters the crystal. That is when the stimulated emission begins to occur. This effect is reinforced be multiple reflections by the mirros which is how all the light becomes in phase.

      In semiconductors lasers, the same exact thing happens except the crystal fills the entire cavity.

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    12. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by Drakula · · Score: 1

      The only thing that is different between semiconductor lasers and crystal-based lasers is the method of pumping (and required electronics etc.) and the materials.

      But in both cases, crystals are the source and the amplification medium.

      Feel free to pick up a Solid State Physics book, you will see that semiconductors are crystals.

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    13. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by RedWizzard · · Score: 2

      I'd say the key part of the laser acronym is "amplification". That eliminates glow in the dark toys, light bulbs, etc from the definition.

    14. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by dragons_flight · · Score: 2

      If you look at the Bell Labs page which someone linked in a lower comment, then you'll see that's it's not really emitting from a broad range of light.

      There are lots of layers of slightly different sizes, and the size of the layer largely determines the color (wavelength) of the light emitted. In effect it's like there are lots of lasers on different frequencies located in nearly the same space. Since they are all firing at the same time the net effect is a broad distributed band of coherent light, but you can still make out individual peaks.

    15. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by scotch · · Score: 1
      "Principles of Lasers, 3rd Edition" - Orazio Svelto, 1989.

      Chapter 6: Types of Lasers

      Section 6.2 Solid-State Lasers

      Section 6.3 Gas Lasers

      Section 6.4 Liquid Lasers (Dye Lasers)

      Section 6.5 Chemical Lasers

      Section 6.6 Semiconductor Lasers

      ....

      Should I go on? Of course, most solid-state physics books, including the one I could pick up here, are useless in the context of Lasers Types.

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    16. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by scotch · · Score: 1

      Well, the amplification happens because of the stimulation, so I would agree their both key.

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    17. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by Drakula · · Score: 1

      Yes you should, because what you have written doesn't prove anything.

      I never said that solid-state/crystal lasers are exactly the same as semiconductor lasers. I only said that crystal lasers and semiconductor lasers both use crystals.

      You should also learn that having books on your shelf doesn't make you knowledgable. You try reading them.

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    18. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by mindstrm · · Score: 2

      I think... you are mixed up a bit.

      Light waves do not interfere with each other.

      It's not like sound where you can do active noise cancelling..light waves 180 degrees out of phase will not cancel each other out.

      The single phase output of the laser effect has interesting optical properties.. but I don't believe it actually causes it to be any 'stronger'.

      10 lasers all out of phase with each other, all focused into the same beam would not weaken anything.

      Don't mix up the optical propetries with the energy released... You can pack the same amount of non-coherent light into a beam and get the same results as far as burning or cutting... it's just that devices using the laser effect are much more efficient, and hence, practical.

      Of course, I'm talking out my ass... but that all makes sense to me.

    19. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by scotch · · Score: 1

      I've read them. Great, semiconductor lasers and crystal lasers both use crystals. You've really demostrated your great understanding of the subject. Guess what? They both use atoms too. They're both atom lasers. Woo hoo. To insist on repeating the fact that semiconductors are crystals in the context of a discussion of lasers is both pedantic and indiciative of a lack of knowledge of the subject. Thanks for breaking the ice in this thread with the first round of insults.

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    20. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by ArnoldYabenson · · Score: 0
      This is a pretty poor definition of a laser

      The purpose of the post was not to define a laser, it was to explain in simple terms how a wideband laser was not a contradiction in terms. Not every communication need be "definitive."

    21. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by ArnoldYabenson · · Score: 0
      Thanks for breaking the ice in this thread with the first round of insults

      No, that was you, when you told some guy he had made a "pretty poor definition of a laser" in a post in which no one was attampting a definition. Review your posts, you are being pretty combative, if not insulting.

    22. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by Drakula · · Score: 1

      Fair enough, the last comment was unnecessary. I thought we, including everyone else in this thread, were trying to gain more understanding of the topic. My original reply to the parent was to point a slight discrenpancy in someone else's post. This often occurs to me, so I assumed it was reasonable.

      I was never trying to appear smarter than you, but I'm not sure what kind of response you were expecting to your previous post. Well whatever, think what you will.

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    23. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by scotch · · Score: 1
      That's hardly insulting. Don't be so sensitive. BTW, an attempt at a definition was made, it was just implied. When someone says:

      DEVICE
      HOW DEVICE WORKS

      I'd say that is a definition, albeit an implied one.

      YMMV

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    24. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by scotch · · Score: 1
      Truce. ;) Anyway, you're probably right that the distinction isn't all that important for the level of this forum. Opening that book reminded me why I like my new job as coder better than my previous life doing physics.

      Hung over and ashamed, Scotch

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    25. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by Drakula · · Score: 1

      Sounds good. I'm an EE, about to graduate. Looking forward to the real world. Why did you leave physics?

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    26. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by scotch · · Score: 1
      I liked physics while I was getting my degree, and I got to work on some interesting things in the field after I graduated, but I found that I wasn't getting to do the king of problem solving that I liked in school. I kind of got stuck doing systems engineering / project management of projects that involved cool physics, I just wasn't doing the physics. I always liked to code, and it gave the same problem solving feeling, so a few years ago I made the career switch. Haven't regretted it.

      Good luck

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    27. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by RussGarrett · · Score: 2


      Light waves do not interfere with each other.
      It's not like sound where you can do active noise cancelling..light waves 180 degrees out of phase will not cancel each other out.


      Erm... yes they very much do interfere.

      Interference is a property of any wave, and light does exhibit it. Non-coherent light doesn't disappear because there are many small coherent streams of light energy - there is some cancellation (destructive interference), but there is also some constructive interference, and in the end the whole beam averages out - actually flickering millions of times a second.

      This gives rise to the famous Young's Fringes and Newton's Rings. Young's Fringes form when two sources of coherent waves (light, sound, anything) interfere to produce light (loud) and dark (quiet) bands.

    28. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by hokanomono · · Score: 1

      Even if the term LASER refers to the process of generation of the laser, i think there is one common property of devices that we like to call a "laser":

      A laser is capable of emitting a lot of bosons that are in the same state (with some tolerance).

      If you get yourself to accept that a single photon can be polychromatic, you will also be able to imagine coherent polychromatic light. (However I am not sure if it applies to the laser at hand.)

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    29. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by renoX · · Score: 4, Interesting

      For me the device that they build is a way to have multiple lasers in the same packaging, each with a slightly different wavelength.

      Each of the individual emmiting layer is monochromatic and coherent, but the resulting beam isn't, you're right.

      What would be interesting is to see a diagram which would give the intensity of the light for each wavelength.

      I suspect that it isn't totally flat, but more something like this:
      /\/\/\/\

    30. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by jacoberrol · · Score: 1

      My definition was very general, but there was nothing incorrect about it. I was just explaining how the new Lucent laser can emit photons of various wavelengths and still fit the definition of a laser.

      By the way, most lasers ARE crystals. As you know, a semiconductor is a crystal.

    31. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by RedWizzard · · Score: 2

      True.

    32. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by Hal-9001 · · Score: 1

      Can a single photon be polychromatic?

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    33. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by Genyin · · Score: 1

      IAOAPS (I am only a physics student) but light waves do interfere with each other.

      That's how diffraction works.

      But then, this gets into the realm of quantum physics, where the intuitive is usually wrong :).

      In any case, you can be forgiven the misinformation, since you at least disclaimed it.

    34. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by esonik · · Score: 1

      looking at the Nature article, the "above threshold" spectrum goes from 6 to 8 um and looks almost rectangular, with some broad irregualr modulations and a maximum at 7.6 um. At higher spectral resolution one can see the individual Fabry-Perot modes (i.e. the individual modes of the resonator(s)).

    35. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by esonik · · Score: 1

      The single phase output of the laser effect has interesting optical properties.. but I don't believe it actually causes it to be any 'stronger'.

      Actually, the phase locking of many different modes of a laser (=mode locking) is used to generate extremely powerful (>Terawatt) and short laser pulses. These pulses are a direct product of constructive interference of many different frequencies (inbetween the pulses you have destructive interference). Using mode-locking it is possible to generate from a 10 Watt continous wave laser a train of Terawatt peak power laser pulses (of course, average power is the same, or even lower).

    36. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by shadowbearer · · Score: 1

      So does this mean that the package would have the same coherence over long distances (ie energy/square meter over surface) as a monochromatic laser does?

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    37. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by shadowbearer · · Score: 1

      Looks like they did it in a chip. Bazillions of applications. (holography) Does long distance coherency (energy/sq meter) suffer from this in comparison to a monochromatic laser? *dreaming* (output sendme.txt > /dev/laser0833 -freq=Q - destination username -Lat xxx -Long xxx -encrypt y -sat xx)

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    38. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by esonik · · Score: 1
      They didn't specifically achieve (or try to achieve) mode-locking, but they mention the possibility (see below). They do not give a value for coherence length in the Nature article but there is a list of possible applications:
      First, apart from supercontinuum generation, any other spectral configuration--for example, several contiguous bands with narrow gaps in between, spectral voids, or peaks in combination with continuous bands--could be designed. This might be of particular interest in custom-tailored light sources for spectroscopy or microscopy of inorganic, organic or biological specimens, including those with complex optical response functions. Second, by adding wavelength-selective optical feedback from an external grating, it might be possible to turn the supercontinuum laser described here into an ultra-widely (over several micrometres) wavelength-tunable source: such a source could be useful as a trace-gas sensor in atmospheric, environmental or medical applications. Third, by using a technique called mode-locking, a laser with a broad gain spectrum can be turned into a source of ultra-short pulses. By applying mode-locking to the laser we report here, we consider that it should be possible to obtain pulses as short as a few femtoseconds in the mid-infrared wavelength range. This would be an improvement by a factor of 1,000 over existing semiconductor sources, and opens up opportunities for time-resolved spectroscopy in the mid-infrared wavelength range. Last, if the design concept we report here could be applied to the fibre-optic or visible wavelength ranges, the resulting devices could be useful in optical data communications or for white light generation, respectively.
    39. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by hokanomono · · Score: 1

      Every real photon is polychromatic since the norm of the free monochromatic photon \psi(x,t) = e^{i(kx-\omega t)} would be divergent. A completely monochromatic photon cannot be localized. On the other hand if you have a localized wave-packet, it is not sharp in the momentum space. Remember Heisenberg: \Delta x * \Delta p >= \hbar/2. And for photons, momentum p is reciproc colour. (p = \frac{\hbar}{\lambda})

      Less mathematically speaking: don't imagine a photon having a colour. The colour is decided at the measurement. Imagine a photon with a function of wavelengths, some wavelengths will be measured more probably, some will be measured less probably. A conventional LASER would have one peak at a certain wavelength and a fall of on the sides. But with the LASER at hand it will look differently.

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    40. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by mgblst · · Score: 1

      I liked it better when you two guys were arguing!

    41. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by russh347 · · Score: 1
      Of course, I'm talking out my ass... but that all makes sense to me.
      That's about the only thing you got right.
    42. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by JoeRobe · · Score: 1

      Yes, a single monochromatic photon cannot exist. But a good laser cavity can cut that inherent polychromaticity down to 1 part in 10^9. However, the inherent polychromaticity of photons isn't what makes the 6-8 micron range here.

      Most research grade lasers (especially gas phase like Ar+, Kr+ and CO) emit in multiple wavelengths. I'm 20 feet away from one right now. It emits at 514nm, 488nm, and 457nm (it's an Ar+). However, what matters is if the photons of one specific wavelength are all in phase (coherent). If we do that, then we can also do something extremely simple, like send the resulting beam through a prism, and have thousands of laser beams, all coherent, and all of different wavelengths slightly separated in space. THAT is useful. The cool thing I see with this is that I could now make a laser beam that is 1mm tall, but, say 10cm long, and as I go along that 10cm, the wavelength is *nearly* continuously changing.

      JoeRobe

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    43. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by Hal-9001 · · Score: 1

      Thanks for clearing that up. :-)

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    44. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by zer0vector · · Score: 1

      Just a comment on your equation, wouldn't it be h/2*2pi, or h-bar/2. Maybe I'm wrong, I can't really remember my quantum.

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    45. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by spike+hay · · Score: 1

      There are some natural lasers formed by excited gas clouds around the universe. They are monochromatic but have no beam. They just emit light in all directions in one wavelengh

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    46. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by ebh · · Score: 1
      It emits at 514nm, 488nm, and 457nm (it's an Ar+).

      Don't forget that GORGEOUS purple line that I always wished I could get in some useable quantity. (Well, there's always dye lasers, but I don't feel like blowing up my basement.)

    47. Re:Isn't this a contradiction? by Mr+Teddy+Bear · · Score: 1

      ummmm... why don't you two share with eachother privately... perhaps exchange phone numbers. :-P

  4. Infinite Wavelength, or a combination of lasers? by boio · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I always thought that the whole point of a laser was that it was generating a perfect coherent waveform, so is this new laser generating light at a large number of wavelengths in the infrared, or is it an infinite number of wavelengths in the range specified?

    Also, it seems like it would take a lot more development to extend this wideband laser work for something more consumer-oriented, like room lighting, as the light would need to be relatively omni-directional, which it doesn't seem like lasers are very good at producing now.

  5. Signal to Noise by Cirvam · · Score: 1
    The tight physical confinement of many of those stacked layers makes them act as so-called quantum wells, in which electrons can only have certain amounts of energy, Gmachl explains. Those specific energy levels are determined by the laws of quantum mechanics.


    Sounds like the 1 electron processor from Signal to Noise. I wonder if anyone has a simple explanation of how it exactly works? It seems that the electrons build up so much energy which pentrates diffrent strata of semiconductors and that creates the diffrent wavelenghes. Is that anywhere close to right?
    1. Re:Signal to Noise by nerdlyone · · Score: 1
      They build the laser with a plurality of quantum wells, each of a slightly different width (and therefore of slightly different energy band). They then pump electrons across these quantum wells, with reflectors of some kind at either end of the cavity (they use cleaved facets for reflectors--probably because gratings would only reflect one wavelength well). The quantum wells are made by sandwiching semiconductor layers of different materials and different widths.

      As electrons are pumped across these different layers, they drop in energy (because of the different work functions between the two materials). When they drop in energy, they give off a photon that bounces back and forth off the morrors until it is coupled out (usually through transmission through a mirror). Many electrons dropping across many DIFFERENT energy levels gives off photons of different wavelengths.

  6. Multiplex? by Covant · · Score: 1

    I wonder if this would have applications in optical communications?

    It's not clear if the different wavelengths have to appear together, or can be manipulated individually.

    If they can be manipulated individually think of the coolness.

    So many questions.

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    1. Re:Multiplex? by Yarn · · Score: 3, Informative

      I can't see it being simple to modulate the laser to do that, but generally modulating the laser isn't much good for high bitrates.

      The trouble is the very power modulation can cause shifts in frequency (due to ohmic heating), leading to unwanted losses and cross talk.

      Better to have an external modulator which can change its loss at various frequencies, and use this as the source.

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    2. Re:Multiplex? by Hal-9001 · · Score: 1

      Since the lasing lines overlap, I think it would be very difficult to separate them to modulate individually. In addition, multi-line operation decreases the lasing efficiency of any particular line is probably pretty bad. Both these considerations would make it very difficult to integrate such a device into a wavelength-multiplexed communication system. The only way I can think of using this device in optical communication is to mode-lock the output and use it in a very fast single-channel link.

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  7. So what exactly are the implications? by OverallsGuy · · Score: 0

    I'm not sure I understand.

  8. Hmm, no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If in a laser the photons *had* the same phase, then their amplitudes would add up linearly. Since energy is proportional to the square of the amplitude, the energy of N "in-phase photons" would be N^2 times the energy of one photon, violating conservation of energy.

    1. Re:Hmm, no by Drakula · · Score: 1

      This isn't quite correct.

      The previous poster was right, the photons at the lasing wavlength *do* have the same phase.

      Power is proportional to the square of the amplitude, not the energy.

      The energy at a single wavelength increases because the photons add in-phase. The photons themselves do not increase in energy. If they did they would be a different wavelength. Energy is conserved because you only get as energy out (in the form of coherent light) as you out in (in the form of electrical/optical pumping). What the laser does is force the nearly all of the generated light to occupy the same state, creating the coherent intense beam of light.

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  9. Sounds like Zippy by strredwolf · · Score: 3, Funny

    Quantum-Cascade Polychromatic Lasers!
    Quantum-Cascade Polychromatic Lasers!
    Quantum-Cascade Polychromatic Lasers!
    Quantum-Cascade Polychromatic Lasers!

    (I took one look at that and thought Zippy. Oh boy. Excuse me while I fix a peanut butter and olive sandwich...)

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  10. Re:Infinite Wavelength, or a combination of lasers by $uperjay · · Score: 2, Informative

    The laser does not produce an infinite amount of wavelengths. Each layer produces one dominant wavelength, and one to several weaker wavelengths.

    As for consumer applications, don't hold your breath. Unless these are cheaper to produce than your supermarket price-checker, they'll stay in the realm of science for now. Multi-spectrum lasers are useful simply because they're light that all goes in one direction, which makes them useful for observing molecules.

  11. other uses by Alien54 · · Score: 2
    In principle, the same technique might someday lead to a white-light device for room lighting, computer displays, or video projection ...

    Of course, they don't mention the weapons potential

    or laser headlights for *really* bright high beams on the car.

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  12. Finally!! by woodix · · Score: 3, Funny
    I don't know about you guys, but I've been looking for a geek-friendly method of removing hair from my body and that IGEA thingy that does it one at a time just wasn't cutting it. Now I can just burn it all right off with a big nasty room temp laser. They should probably package it with a warning. Something like, "avoid using this device near mirrors." Can you imagine how stupid you'd feel if you ricocheted your hair burning beam off the bathroom mirror and vaporized your dog in the next room?


    And when you weren't burning hair off your body, you could use it to super heat your evil Science Teacher's house so that popcorn exploded out of it everywhere...and you wouldn't even need to hijack the computers on a nearby B-1 bomber!!


    Finally, my life can emulate Real Genius!! (thanks Cliff!)

    1. Re:Finally!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      And when you weren't burning hair off your body, you could use it to super heat your evil Science Teacher's house so that popcorn exploded out of it everywhere

      Of course you would need some sort of mirror tracking system. Wait a minute, Brent was working on one!

  13. bell lab's laser by I+Want+GNU! · · Score: 3, Informative

    Bell Labs has a page up on a Quantum Cascade Laser at http://www.bell-labs.com/org/physicalsciences/psr/ qc/ with info about its design, applications, and other related info from a few years ago.

  14. isolate consciousness first by Jeremy+Gallow · · Score: 0

    if you isolate consciousness, lasers would be directly operated by the concious brain.

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  15. Re:Infinite Wavelength, or a combination of lasers by Drakula · · Score: 1

    The whole point of a laser is to get an intense and highly directional beam of light. The reason for this would be for coupling to an optical fiber or other such application. Also, since the energy density of the spot would be auite large compared to an LED, you would never want to use it as a light source. The naked eye would be damaged.

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  16. Not quite right... by Myriad · · Score: 5, Informative
    An ordinary laser emits only a single color because it's built with a light-emitting substance that naturally generates one wavelength of light when energized.

    Technically speaking this isn't quite true - it depends on what your lasing medium consists of. While each colour line emitted will be monochromatic, a single laser is capable of producing multiple lines.

    In the case of a Krypton or Helium Neon ion gas laser you will get a single line out (usually, but not necessarily, red for either of these).

    However, if I look at an Argon laser with apropriate optics you get primarily Blue and Green (514nm "Green" and 488nm "Blue") lines (with combinations in between). If I put a prism to the output of my little American Laser 60x I can see 7 individual lines - 5 are of such lower power as to be virtually useless, but the primary Green and Blue are strong.

    Then if you look at a Copper Vapor laser which works by evaporating copper you get two lines: an emerald green and *gold* (this type of laser was made famous during the Pink Floyd Division Bell tour).

    Newer solid state are very much single line. If you ever see a very harsh green beam you are probably looking at a Nd:YAG laser. The new solid state stuff is really looking promising... much more reliable with a much longer lifespan. Now, if they could just get the Blue solid states more powerful reliable we would be laughing. A low to mid powered white-light lasershow that could fit in a briefcase! On the down side though, typically much lower power output than their ion cousins (and the YAG green is, in my opinion, really nasty).

    Could almost make me miss lugging 909's around... :)

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    1. Re:Not quite right... by Yarn · · Score: 2

      Nd:YAG is fairly narrow linewidth at 1064nm. The green is frequency doubled(532nm), in a nonlinear crystal.

      To get blue frequency tripling is often used, but each nonlinear element reduces the intensity greatly.

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    2. Re:Not quite right... by Hal-9001 · · Score: 1

      Actually, when you triple it, don't you get ultraviolet (~355 nm)? Of course, the 400nm-700nm model of human color vision is messed up, so it's possible that some people could see that as a really deep purple...

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  17. Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radi by slithytove · · Score: 3, Informative

    ation:)

    In answer to all those going, "huh? i thought the whole point of lasers was that they're coherent/all the same wavelength"
    Any device which excites one or more substances electrons to jump up an energy level and then fall back generating a specific wavelength (per substance) photon. these are usually bounced back and forth in a chamber and released at one end.
    This article is about a quantum cascade laser, which is a bit more complicated than my simplified (even for normal lasers) explaination.
    The point is, that while coherent lasers are the norm and coherence has many uses, this is still a laser and the technology may have many different uses itself.

  18. Wow, I thought everyone knew how lasers worked! by 2nd+Post! · · Score: 4, Informative

    Monocromacity is not an inherent property of lasers.

    It's a limitation we could not overcome until now.

    Lasers are coherent.

    Lucent has created a multichromatic coherent laser.

    Simply put, multiple quantum wells laze at different frequencies. Stacks of these multiple quantum wells create multiple lasers in one cavity, if I understand it correctly.

    Each frequency is indeed coherent. You get multiple frequencies, however, in one resonant cavity. I'm guessing here, but the reason why you don't see each frequency shooting emitting from the cavity at different times is because it's either a continuous laser, or because the energy spread between the different colors is much smaller than the energy of activation to escape the cavity.

    In either case, an analogy would be to place multiple crystals stacked together into one laser, and stimulating all of them. If you assume that there are no diffraction problems, and that they all emit at roughly the same period, you have a very crude multi-chromatic laser.

    1. Re:Wow, I thought everyone knew how lasers worked! by Drakula · · Score: 1

      The light you see coming out the laser is a steadt state condition. Although there is a small transient time when the device is first "turned on", it would be very short. Therefore, you would never see that difference.

      The timing of the light being emitted by the material does not matter since the resonance cavity, through multiple reflections, and the materials, through gain stimulated emission, will cause the light of a single wavelength to be in phase.

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    2. Re:Wow, I thought everyone knew how lasers worked! by 2nd+Post! · · Score: 2

      Let me clarify what I meant. Light of differing wavelength would not be in phase and see some spread. If this were a continuous laser, then only the wavefront and tail of the beam would show this spread, but for the average case the spread would not be of consequence. If this were not a continuous laser (perhaps all semiconductor lasers are continuous lasers, I don't know) but fired in pulses, if the pulse width were sufficiently short, you might see each frequency occupy a different part of the pulse.

      Am I thinking about a non-issue?

    3. Re:Wow, I thought everyone knew how lasers worked! by Chagrin · · Score: 2
      • In either case, an analogy would be to place multiple crystals stacked together into one laser, and stimulating all of them. If you assume that there are no diffraction problems, and that they all emit at roughly the same period, you have a very crude multi-chromatic laser.
      Yeah, but isn't the point to be able to control each of these frequencies seperately?
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    4. Re:Wow, I thought everyone knew how lasers worked! by Hal-9001 · · Score: 1
      Actually, I don't think it is. From the article:
      One such device, already in the works, would operate at the shorter infrared wavelengths now widely used for optical-fiber telecommunications, Gmachl says. In principle, the same technique might someday lead to a white-light device for room lighting, computer displays, or video projection, she notes.
      It sounds like it's more or less a glorified micro-optoelectronic spotlight that you might be able to mode-lock to use for fiber-optic communication.
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    5. Re:Wow, I thought everyone knew how lasers worked! by Drakula · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure but I think you might be confusing pulse spreading (in time) with homogeneous broadening (in wavelength/frequency). The former occurs since shorter wavelength light travels faster than longer wavelength light in a medium other than air. The latter results from the finite transition width (in wavelength) of the source. this is probably more confusing. I think I'm not understanding you though, oh well.

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  19. Quantum Cascade technology is so passe by Ninjak · · Score: 0, Interesting

    Researchers at MIT have already moved on to more advanced technology. With cascading, the laser accelerates the nanodes in the visible spectrum to get its "beam" effect. Obviously, this is a huge drawback because of the excess power consumption wasted on acceleration.

    Professor Warton, whom I work for, has implemented a prototype "Quantum Tripoly" laser. "Tri" because it uses three quarks rather than one and "poly" because it's basically 3^3=27 quantum cascade lasers in one. And there's no acceleration downside that I mentioned above, no waste, just laser goodness.

    The future isn't cascading, so why is Lucent still working on this dead-end technology?? Anyone with a PhD in physics care to comment??

    1. Re:Quantum Cascade technology is so passe by Yarn · · Score: 2

      Can I have some of what you're drinking

      (not got my PhD yet)

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    2. Re:Quantum Cascade technology is so passe by nerdlyone · · Score: 1
      The future isn't cascading, so why is Lucent still working on this dead-end technology?? Anyone with a PhD in physics care to comment??

      Not a PhD, so go ahead and discount this before you read it.

      Anyway, I don't know what "nanodes" are, nor a "beam" effect--are these dumbed down terms for your PhD-only audience? So I'm not sure what you're saying about the visible spectrum limitations. I do know this laser is reported to work at 6-8 micron wavelength, which is IR and right in the range of low loss troughs in modern optical fibers. So this thing is exactly the wavelength it needs to be for telecom.

      To answer your question, they are working on this "dead end" technology because it has produced a broadband semiconductor laser, the first one that I know of. Has your prof's "more advanced technology" produced a working broadband laser yet? If not, what is the point of your question? If so, where was it reported? I'd be interested to read about it.

  20. clarification by slithytove · · Score: 2

    Its not actually true the theres always only one wavelength per substance- even single atoms like copper can emit multiple wavelengths

  21. It needs to be said... by IllogicalStudent · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Imagine a Beowulf cluster of th... oh never mind.

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  22. High bandwidth lasers by Yarn · · Score: 5, Interesting

    These aren't exactly new, but this is a new(ish) way of getting larger bandwidths. Before you have been more limited by the physical properties of your material, which meant you had to use interesting carcinogenic dyes, or expensive crystals to get broad stimulated emission cross sections.

    I'd publish my course notes on the issue, but I'm not certain my prof would be too happy. I'll check with him when I see him Monday.

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    1. Re:High bandwidth lasers by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 1

      Why would your prof be unhappy? You are at school, not working as some intern with NDAs coming out your ears.

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    2. Re:High bandwidth lasers by quintessent · · Score: 2

      Now I'll be able to change the channel and turn the volume down at the same time.

    3. Re:High bandwidth lasers by Yarn · · Score: 2

      I need to keep him more or less happy as he is helping me significantly with some other projects.

      He may become unhappy if my crappy notes make him look bad :P

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    4. Re:High bandwidth lasers by Yarn · · Score: 3, Insightful

      For the curious: My notes from introductory course on lasers

      (got an email response)

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    5. Re:High bandwidth lasers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe you're referring to wavelength division multiplexing (WDM) techniques. A single laser emitting multiple frequencies doesn't help implement this as you're limited to modulating all frequencies with the same signal resulting in no increase in bandwidth. To properly implement WDM you require multiple lasers at different slightly different frequencies.

  23. Unadultrated Geek Sex by nickynicky9doors · · Score: 1

    "In any quantum-cascade laser, a high voltage coerces an electric current to penetrate layer after layer in the stack. The tight physical confinement of many of those stacked layers makes them act as so-called quantum wells, in which electrons can only have certain amounts of energy,..." Anyway it was good for me :-) and now I have to go and smoke something. The future's so bright I have to ware shades.

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  24. Lasers Make Poor Weapons! by Myriad · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Of course, they don't mention the weapons potential.

    Argh. It seems there is one of those unwritten Slashdot rules that dictates any story about lasers must be accompanied by posts about laser weapons... usually in the Death Ray variety. For the most part lasers make poor offensive weapons, at least in the Burning a Hole Through X variety.
    (Thank you Alien54 for not suggesting such a thing)

    I've posted this before but here it is again:
    ***************

    It seems inevitable that whenever there is a story regarding lasers we get to see all sorts of silly posts about blasting people with laser.

    Even antimissle lasers have a long way to go. Between power requirements, beam handling, divergence, and atmospheric interference, lasers do not make great destructive weapons.

    However, they would be damned good for some nasty tricks like blinding the enemy army (or, unfortunately, civilians).

    Take this scenario: a bomber/cargo style aircraft has been outfitted with a large infrared laser (similar things have been done). Fly said aircraft over the people you wish to 'zap'. Release some fireworks or other attention getting devices and when the crowd looks up turn on and start scanning the laser.

    Since the laser is infrared nobody would know they are being exposed to blinding levels of light, nor would the blink/aversion reaction take place. By the time you noticed anything the permanent damage has been done. Scary huh?

    Another scenario under serious consideration by police (at least here in Canada, I've participated in meetings on the subject) is the use of lasers against commercial aircraft. The idea isn't to shoot down the aircraft, but to scan at temporarily blind the pilot during final night approaches. The effect is like someone flashing a camera flash in your face when your in a dark room.

    As the few moments prior to landing are the most critical, distracting and flash blinding the pilot could easily lead to the plane crashing.

    Worse, new solid state lasers are available in the 3watt (plenty of power to cause permanent blindness) range and can be powered off a car with an inverter. Simply park at the end of a convenient runway at night, plug 'er in and away you go. Ok, so it's not quite that easy, but the concept is...

    Doesn't that all just scare you a bit more than some silly death ray?

    Note: after saying all that I want to point out that I do not support the insane regulations placed against the use of lasers in the United States by the CDRH. It's totally ridiculous and overzealous.

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    1. Re:Lasers Make Poor Weapons! by DrSkwid · · Score: 2, Funny

      Another scenario under serious consideration by police ... to .. temporarily blind the pilot during final night approaches.

      Pardon my ignorance of Canadian culture but why on earth would the police want to do that?

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    2. Re:Lasers Make Poor Weapons! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i was wondering the same thing? I couldn't figure out why the police would want to blind pilots.

    3. Re:Lasers Make Poor Weapons! by blair1q · · Score: 2

      As the few moments prior to landing are the most critical, distracting and flash blinding the pilot could easily lead to the plane crashing.

      Back when the (iirc) MGM Grand in Las Vegas was new, they had a laser show they ran off their roof.

      They shut it down when it scanned the eyes of a pilot during takeoff from McCarron.

      Here's a link to google's cached page for it (the original is behind a login dialog):

      Laser blinds flight crew.

      Now, if blinding pilots for 5-10 seconds while they're climbing under full power at 500 feet isn't considered "life-threatening risk" to everyone on board and lots of people in the city below, then I must be some sort of chicken...

      --Blair

    4. Re:Lasers Make Poor Weapons! by NeoSkandranon · · Score: 1

      Read Tom Clancy's "Debt of Honor" , they do something similar, i'd think it was some sort of bright band laser since noncohernt light might not be be blinding power at the ranges used..

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    5. Re:Lasers Make Poor Weapons! by jayed_99 · · Score: 2

      You're forgetting that most posts are based on "what we want to be true" and not necessarily "what is true".

      I sure as hell want a massive, Death Star, lasing-zapper-blaster raygun. (If only to blast the god-damned pigeons that nest in my gutters -- I'm just waiting for the GPS-phone-tracking version so I blast telemarketers).

      So, I can guarantee that anytime there is a "laser" post, you'll see some "death ray" posts because most of us want a Death Star floating over the house so we can unleash death and destruction on anything that bothers us.

    6. Re:Lasers Make Poor Weapons! by DrSkwid · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      er, I may as well watch Star Trek!

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    7. Re:Lasers Make Poor Weapons! by andrewski · · Score: 1

      The police here in the US have had and used lasers to disable people for a while.

      The 'gun' looks like a handheld spotlight in the million candlepower range. The laser is pointed at somebody's face, and it blinds them with green light. It's probably useful to subdue folks that are unresponsive to pepper spray. Good thing for subduing people who are freaking out on pcp or something like that.

  25. So what you're saying is... by no+reason+to+be+here · · Score: 1

    Jedis use Argon in their lightsabers, and the Sith use Krypton or Helium Neon ion gas in theirs.

    1. Re:So what you're saying is... by cwebster · · Score: 2, Insightful

      lightsabers of either side do not make use of lasers. Every try to tune coherent light to de-cohere at a point a couple feet away, giving the appearance of a sword? not easy, and somewhere i believe it is mentioned that the sabers are comprised of plasma or something equally non-laser.

    2. Re:So what you're saying is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      actually they say that they use lasers, but are made to turn around after a few feet by their krazy jedi focusing lens/crystals. all completely infeasible, but who's counting, eh?

    3. Re:So what you're saying is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope, sorry. The "light" is most definitely solid, as evidenced by (among other things) the fact that one saber can block another. Shoot two laser beams through one another at right angles, and they'll pass right through.

  26. Works once per receipient. by chris_7d0h · · Score: 1, Funny

    "Here, let me try this new gizmo out by beaming these MP3s over to ya. Just line up your comp. right next to mine."

    [Star Trek phaser sound]

    "Wow! that was the fastest transfer I've ever seen!!! Sorry about the big hole in your computer though.."

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  27. Military uses by europrobe · · Score: 4, Informative

    If they can make them powerful enough, I can imagine this being used in laser target designators to make them more immune to changes in the absorption properties of the atmosphere. Also, a lot of FSU tanks have optional laser warning receivers, which might not pick up this "spread spectrum" laser.

    Comments, anyone?

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  28. What i did not get by hokanomono · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Do they really have a polychromatic laser or is it just a laser that allows the user to choose an arbitrary wavelength in a given range? The article explains how they get spontaneous emission with a wide range of wavelengths, however it does not explain how to build a cavity that keeps a polychromatic wavepacket (wide in the momentum space) in a stationary state.

    I had the chance to play with a 200mW Argon laser last year. It can laze at many different wavelengths, but i can set the cavity only to a discrete set of wavelengths. This was crucial for deciding between the 351.1nm and the 351.4nm (iirc) line. *g*

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    1. Re:What i did not get by Drakula · · Score: 1

      The cavity is very large compared to the lasing wavelength(s). Therefore, it will have resonances at several wavelengths/frequencies. Each emitting layer has gain at a different wavelength, which can couple to the corresponding resonance of the cavity.

      In the case of the Argon laser, you were using the cavity to force the source to emit light at a slightly different wavelength. You wouldn't be able to tune too much since the source has limited bandwidth, unlike the quantum cascade laser which uses multiple sources.

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    2. Re:What i did not get by Yarn · · Score: 2

      I think the point is that you can mess with the material so you can shift the cross section to different points. I didn't manage to get the abstract, but when Nature arrives I may post my understanding of the paper.

      From the ScienceNews Site it doesn't seem that revolutionary to be honest.

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    3. Re:What i did not get by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it's a polychromatic laser with many closely spaced fabry perot modes in the 6-8um range

    4. Re:What i did not get by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It looks pretty revolutionary, they also manage to get 1 Watt of optical power out of it (at 10 Kelvin though, for room temperature it's much less).

    5. Re:What i did not get by Yarn · · Score: 2, Funny

      Having seen a terawatt laser I am hard to impress :P

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  29. Common, but untrue. by mindstrm · · Score: 2

    Lasers are very good at producing omnidirectional light.

    Pop the columnating lens out of a laser pointer to see just how omnidirectional it is (and please don't look right at it). It's just like any other light source in that respect.. the only difference is that the light it produces is of one wavelength, and in-phase. Both reasons why it's not an ideal room light. But direction has nothing to do with it.

    Lasers are focused using a columnating lens.. just like any other light.

    As the article said... this produces laser lightevenly distributed across the mid-infrared range.

  30. Hanky code by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Sith use Krypton or Helium Neon ion gas in theirs

    Is that like wearing a red hanky on the right?

  31. Re:bell lab's = Lucent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    For better or worse (to it's employee's)

  32. *clapping hand on the forehead* by hokanomono · · Score: 1

    I should do some calculating, before i post.
    If L is the length of the cavity and l is a wavelength, then the distance of the next wavelength that has a resonance in the cavity is l^2/L and this is VERY small under usual circumstances. I think i should read something about laser basics.

    You are right, thank you!

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  33. Re:Infinite Wavelength, or a combination of lasers by wsloand · · Score: 1

    Also, it seems like it would take a lot more development to extend this wideband laser work for something more consumer-oriented

    The point of this is not for a general consumer device any time soon. This device will be used in spectroscopy where there are very few line source lights that operate in the mid-infrared range.

  34. Room temperature infared beams. Useful, but... by quintessent · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    My TV already came with a remote control.

    1. Re:Room temperature infared beams. Useful, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      the news is that you can now control your TV, your VCR, your Sat Receiver and your toilet paper dispenser all with the same remote control!

  35. Laser Physics Digest by pdp11e · · Score: 2, Informative

    Hmrr, parent post is a valid question and deserves a proper answer.

    Lasing phenomena occurs in some media if you have so called "inverse population" of metastabile states of molecules. "Metastabile" means that those (excited) states cannot de-excite in to the lower energy level by spontaneous photon emission (e.g. momentum conservation forbids singlet-triplet transitions). However, if such metastabile molecule is hit by the photon with the energy that corresponds to the difference between upper and lower energy level of the molecule, a stimulated emission occurs. Emitted photon has the same wavelength, phase and direction as the incident one. In the conditions of inverse population (lots of metastbiles and sparsely populated lower levels), something similar to chain reaction happens. The initial photon gets multiplied in the geometric progression as it propagates trough the medium. This accounts for "Amplification" in the acronym LASER. In many cases upper and lower energy levels are well defined i.e. discrete, but they can be energy bands or even continuum. In the later case the wavelength of the "triggering" photon can lie in the range of values. This is actually the answer to the parent of this thread.

    The lasing medium is usually confined in so called resonant cavity consisting of parallel mirrors. The reason for this is to effectively enhance the length of propagation in one preferential direction. The bunch of photons are bouncing back and forth between the mirrors many times and each time they traverse medium their number is increased. One of the mirrors is somewhat transparent and the portion of the beam exits the cavity.

    1. Re:Laser Physics Digest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For the most part you are correct, however there is one tiny detail which you have missed.

      >"Amplification" in the acronym LASER. In many cases upper and lower energy levels are well defined i.e.
      >discrete, but they can be energy bands or even continuum. In the later case the wavelength of the "triggering"

      For the difference in energy levels to be a continuum you would have to have a continuous distribution of energy levels, which in quantum mechanics is not going to happen. In quantum mechanics energy levels are discrete. Since they are discrete they cannot be made to be continuous, in the strict mathematical sense; however, with enough quantum wells the light could be made to 'appear' continuous, even if it is not.

    2. Re:Laser Physics Digest by pdp11e · · Score: 1

      Wrong!
      Energy levels are eigen-value solutions of the schrodinger equation for the given system (atom, molecule, ...). For particular shapes of the potential part of the Hamiltonian, solutions CAN lie in the continuum.

  36. Therefore, the question arises... by Goldenhawk · · Score: 2

    ... why is a laser pointer more useful for directional things than a simple flashlight? After all, an incandescent flashlight is simply an omnidirectional light source with a broad frequency range, roughly focused with a (usually cheap) parabolic reflector. Why could a flashlight not produce as potent and well-focused beam of light with the same colimating lens? After all, you can build a very cheap arc lamp that puts out thousands of watts of light. If you could focus THAT on a small spot, it would be as hot as the arc that produced it in the first place. So what's the problem with doing that?

    (This is a serious question. I'd love to hear the answer from a qualified physics type. I'm even willing to burn a karma point to show this at a 2 rating, so I stand a chance of getting a real answer.)

    I'm just guessing, but it's probably because the monochromatic nature of most laser pointers means that ALL the light focuses the same thru the collimating lens. This is of course because different frequencies of light have different refraction angles thru a lens. Therefore, with a broad-spectrum source like a light bulb, you cannot sharply focus the beam, because each frequency focuses at a different place. As I write this, it occurs to me that's why a flashlight uses a parabolic reflector - because reflection is not affected by wavelenght like refraction is. But with a parabolic lens, the fully parallel beam can never be smaller than the diameter of the lens.

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    1. Re:Therefore, the question arises... by mindstrm · · Score: 2

      I believe you just answered your own question perfectly.

    2. Re:Therefore, the question arises... by esonik · · Score: 1

      You are right about the chromatic abberations and how to avoid them using reflective optics. Another limit for collimating (or focusing) beams is the size of your light source: the larger the source the harder to achieve a good collimation/focus (in classical geometrical optics). Typically, flashlights have a quite large source (tungsten filament), so only part if it will be in the focus point of the parabolic reflector.
      OTOH, if your source is too small or you have small apertures (on the order of the wavelength) your beam divergence will be limited by diffraction.

      Another issue with flashlights is that the light that directly goes towards the exit and does not hit the reflector will not be collimated and thus contribute to the divergence. Of course, flashlights are optimized for brightness, so you _have_ to use a reflector in order to gather the light that is emitted in the "wrong" direction. A lens would only collimate light that already goes towards the exit of the lamp.

  37. Re: Intro to LASERs by Raetsel · · Score: 2

    First off, I'm not a physicist. It's been years since "Physics for Engineers" and I didn't even do very well in that course... (Though I would fare better now, as my calc skills have improved vastly!)

    That having been said... That PDF is quite a document! It seems very comprehensive -- is it something you put together, or was it given out by your professor? (If so... God! Wish I got PDF handouts in my day!) I did note the creator info, but "Ian Clark" doesn't mean anything to me. All that work using LaTeX, too!

    Impressive. Thanks for the posting it!

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  38. Phase Cannons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If we could channel the energy of a matter-antimatter reaction into these polychromatic lasers, then we would have an effective phase cannon. Instead of throwing away the energies in the other wavelengths of light, these polychromatic lasers use all the wavelengths and combine them into a beam of sufficient power to send a bird of prey to Stobelcore!

  39. Applications by JumboMessiah · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm going out on a ledge, but I'd believe one of the major applications of this is in DWDM down single mode fiber. It simplifies manufacturing costs to have a laser that can output on different wavelengths vs. multiple lasers all specifically designed for a single wavelength. I was reading a telecom book today at Barnes and Noble that pointed to that specifically as one reason for the current high costs of DWDM. Of course I have to take the book for a grain of salt considering it was yellow and black :).

  40. and don't forget l.e.d.'s! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    white led's have been around for a while now. last i heard, their principle of operation was laser physics - for the monochromatic ones anyway.

  41. Re:Infinite Wavelength, or a combination of lasers by $uperjay · · Score: 1

    Besides, there aren't an infinite number of wavelengths in between. Light can only certain wavelengths, as described by the laws of quantum physics. If this weren't the case, every light source would be putting out an infinite amount of energy.

  42. Re: Intro to LASERs by Yarn · · Score: 1

    It's all from my notes of a lecture course. No handouts.

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  43. How to tune one even! by Joe+'Nova' · · Score: 1

    Lasers operate on the priciple that an atom 'detects' a wavelength of energy going by it that it happens to be holding, and releases it in the same phase as the other. Repeat X1000^2. Voila, laser light.
    The beam gets repeated by two parallel mirrors, one is opaque, the other is part-way(leaky), which lets the light out, lasing maerial between.
    Replace the opaque mirror with a prism, which spreads the spectrum out, pick a color and place a mirror perpendicular to the beam, and it will reenter the lasing material. The stimulation will reinforce the one color, and the others will degrade(filters would reduce the frequency you want due to imperfections), works with multiple frequncies.
    What should be really fun would be a EL-display type laser device, which might be tunable with the voltage across.
    (As far as rude colors, ever see a neon *plasma* pink?)

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  44. applications in optical communications by Rhinobird · · Score: 1

    Why am I smacking my forehead. I should be smacking yours. Basically, now they have a laser that can replace the 10 or so lasers that would normally feed an optical fiber. Now they can make things smaller and fit more stuff in those central offices at the phone company and stuff.


    Before I mouth off, I should research the terms I'm looking for. Also I should get some sleep.

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  45. Yawn. by sharkey · · Score: 2

    MIDIfrared? Let me know when we get to OGGfrared, then I'll be more interested.

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  46. What about glass? by Civil_Disobedient · · Score: 1

    I was fairly certain that glass prevents most of the harmful radiation in the ultraviolet spectrum from damaging your eyes, so for example, you can watch a nuclear explosion from your car without permanent blindness. Does this work with infrared as well? Because if it does, that would cancel out any problems with aircraft -- or people with glasses.

  47. A new invention? by Bohnanza · · Score: 1

    So what we're looking for, then, is a device that emits light in many different wavelengths and in all directions. Do I see any light bulbs appearing over people's heads right now?

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    1. Re:A new invention? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, that's not exactly what this is about, but that would be very cool too...just not from an old fashioned incadescent light bulb.
      It would be nice to have something with the lower power draw and heat production of, say, an LED, but mimick the dispersal properties of an old fashioned incadescent...
      LED's are alredy used to replace a lot of other lights - almost all new traffic signals in the US use a large grid of LEDs as they last much longer and are much more efficient (although they are giving birds, who used to spend much of the cold northeastern winter in the warmth of the incadescent traffic light - of course in the red position...it's on longer). They are also already in use as tail lights and brake lights in cars...

  48. Importance of updating old movies.. by Guru1 · · Score: 1

    I suppose they need to update Austin Powers now.. "Mini-me! Stop humping the polychromatic LASER"