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@Home Post Mortem: Who or What Killed @Home?

bofus writes: "This article from CNet points to AT&T taking over the @Home board as the nail in the coffin for @Home. It starts out as a tale of possible corporate espionage, with a top techie from AT&T moving to @Home and then back to AT&T, but the guy in question seems to have done nothing but good for @Home while he was there."

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  1. Who killed @Home? by Guppy06 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Cowboy Neal on the grassy knoll.

    Back and to the left...

  2. it was me, sorry. by Dr.+Awktagon · · Score: 5, Funny

    @Home Post Mortem: Who or What Killed @Home?

    Sorry, it was me, I didn't realize that letting my monthly payment slip a few weeks would have such a big impact on the company. I really feel bad about it though.

  3. What really killed @Home... by thesolo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What really killed @Home was their portal!!

    On every PC where at @Home software install was done, the home page was set up to a custom, VERY high-bandwidth portal site. It had daily movies, ridiculously sized graphics, and tons of customization. And no one ever used it fully!! It was difficult to navigate, and had an ugly interface.

    So every time a person opened up their browser, poof, they were force-fed a ton of high-bandwidth info that they didn't want. Combine the delivery costs with the costs of maintaining that content, and you have millions of dollars down the drain. Those millions could have saved them in the long run, IMHO.

  4. Re:Broadband just isn't useful enough. by proxima · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Cable modems are more than just a speed improvement. For many people, the always-on access is very convenient. Some of the cost of broadband is saved by eliminating a second phone line. Another important benefit for many users is the ability to share the connection with multiple computers in one household.

    After switching to broadband, I simply can't go back to dialup access. I've been forced to use or test it occasionally, and even the most trivial web surfing seems painfully slow. It's like being used to a remote control on a tv for fast channel switching and having to go up to the tv each time you want to change the channel. You get used to it, and all these things combined make it worth the price.

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  5. Re:Broadband just isn't useful enough. by aussersterne · · Score: 5, Insightful

    IF you are just loading one Web site a day, there is no reason to need broadband.

    IF you spend any amount of time using the 'net, you need broadband.

    Web use: 1 hour of 'net christmas shopping via broadband == 6 hours of 'net christmas shopping over a modem.

    Mail use: 200 e-mails a day == 30 seconds to check via broadband, 10 minutes to check via modem.

    Research: 100 .PDF files from scholarly journals for a research paper == 1 afternoon to find and download via broadband, 3 weeks to find and download via modem.

    Software: 1 download of Red Hat, FreeBSD, OpenOffice, Your Favorite Game Demo == 10 minutes to 1 hour via broadband, NEVER (good luck!) via modem.

    It's no more correct to say that all consumers don't need broadband than it is to say that all true Americans are christians.

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  6. @Home died becuase of unrenewed contracts by Arethan · · Score: 5, Informative

    Jesus christ. Every goddam analyst on the planet seems to think they know why @Home failed. It's not rocket science, it's basic accounting.

    You dump a few billion dollars into a nationwide network, and then you convince every cable television provider you can shake a stick at that broadband internet is within their grasp, and that you'll help them deploy it by being their internet access point. You get a few hundred cable systems online, and all is good. You get 50% of their profits for providing the bandwidth, and they are happy because they've found a new source of revenue.

    Your market share continues to rise as your cable systems count skyrockets past the thousands. Everything is great! But then it happens. Being that cable systems are greedy bastards, they start eyeing up your 50% of the profits. Then, the guy in their NOC that actually had the cluestick long enough to set up the whole damn headend for broadband internet has an idea. Why don't we just drop @Home and get our bandwidth from the local telcos? After all, DS3's from Chicago cost thousands more than DS3's from the Bell office down the street.

    And one by one, every cable system that @Home helped set up, went independant. I worked in the cable industry at the time, and I saw it coming from a mile away. Hell, I watched the DS3 from @Home go dead. I day I heard that every one of our markets in the entire state was ditching @Home was the day I told everyone I knew to sell all of their @Home stock.

    But it gets better. @Home wasn't stupid. They knew that cable providers would eventually catch on. So they made lengthy contract with them. The problem is, the contracts ended up benig too market specific. For months, we supported both @Home, and our proprietary network. All new markets going live with broadband internet wouldn't even know what @Home was, as we only offered our proprietary network in new markets.

    Eventually, we bought out the remainder of the @Home contract. @Home was stupid as all hell to let that happen too. That market's size has more than doubled in the past year. They would have been rolling in it. But then again, I supposed that when you're billions in debt, lump sums of cash can sure be appealing to your accountants as they try to fend off the lenders.

    Making a long story short, @Home's demise had little to do with their network, and everything to do with unrenewed/prematurely-ended contracts. @Home's network was incredibly fast. Surprised the hell out of our network engineer at several times. But, you just can't run a business when you're not generating revenue.

    1. Re:@Home died becuase of unrenewed contracts by RembrandtX · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Err .. a few glaring errors:

      Cable companies paid @Home $13.00 a subscriber .. thats far from 50% as your average cable company charges $45-$50 a month.

      @Home didn't build anything ... they were essentually a reseller. They leased lines from the 5 major backbones, and in turn acted as a gateway between the cable companies and those backbones .. more or less getting them a 'volume' discount.

      @Home's contracts were for being part of the @Home franchise. {still recogonizable} and for their hosting e-mail and web space. thats it.
      In all actualily .. the contracts probally HELPED the end consumer, as cable franchises we're not allowed to go above a certain price cap, and we're not allowed to sell 'tiered services (like business lines at business rates'. After @Home said it was gonna go bust .. whats the FIRST thing all the cable companies did. Answer: raise their rates .. when the lawyers got no $$ .. you automagically win in court.

      When you throw on top of that Beer-Day Fridays, free massages, and the Sucking black hole which is Excite.com, thats where the $$ went .. not to these imagined things.

      Once Excite came online, those vampires sucked @Home for every penny. I had to deal with no less than FOUR account reps once a week for about 3 months just to sync up our local market homepage 'headlines' with their main page. Thats a lot of wasted man hours that could have been avoided with 1 simple statement.

      [Did I mention there was a slide in the main office, made it easier to get downstairs on Beer-Day Friday]

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  7. One word... by NOC_Monkey · · Score: 5, Informative

    Excite. Originally, Excite was bought by @Home simply to provide content. However, when Excite's CEO took over, that idea was quickly turned around - @Home's only purpose from then on was only to provide money to the cash-hemorrhaging, media-obsessed, dot-com-fetishists screaming "I'm not quite dead!" after having lost the "portal wars" to Yahoo long before. Had Excite not been the parasite that it turned out to be, @Home would have been profitable, strong, and still expanding today. They had a product that there is clearly a demand for, and (as the article states) in spite of Excite's draining away of every penny that @Home took in (and then some), they still managed to serve over 45% of all home broadband connections in the US. It would surprise me greatly to see any other company even come close to that accomplishment. What killed @Home Network? Excite@Home did.

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  8. Re:Possible reason by n6mod · · Score: 5, Informative

    No joke. The amazing thing about @Home was that they were all so damn arrogant, but didn't know $#!+.

    I worked for a CMTS vendor for almost five years, and every contact with @Home was an exercise in insanity.

    1: We were installing gear at an @Home site, and needed changes in the routing made to light up the new gear. Called the NOC a dozen times over the two days I was onsite with no response. I finally turned off one of the (redundant) power supplies on the @Home 7200 in the headend. Sure enough, the NOC called us within a minute. I had the guy who called find the Routing Diva (that's what her card said!) before I turned the supply back on.

    2: They were constantly beating us up to make sure that the modems wouldn't bind to IP addresses learned from ARP, since then you could just statically configure an IP address you wanted to steal. No, they insisted that we sniff DHCP, that way their magical DHCP-integrated-with-billing server could be authoritative. We actually preferred using DHCP to ARP (since we had to relay DHCP anyway) and added a switch to disable learning from ARP. So far so good, except that their DHCP implementation was non-standard. It completely ignored giaddr, and assigned the IP based on client ID. (That caused countless other problems, as you might imagine...) Fine, except that the Client ID was also the hostname in @Home's DNS.

    For those of you who lack a devious mind, this means that all you had to do was a reverse lookup on the address you wanted to steal, enter that as your client ID, and the DHCP would assign you the address you stole.

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