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Cryptographic Software in Debian's Main Archive

Cine writes: "James Troup and Sam Hartman recently sent a note to all debian mirror maintainers, to inform them about the current situation and future plans. Sometime after March 8th, crypto software like OpenSSH, SSL support, and many other enhancements will be integrated into the debian main archive. This is in accordance to legal advice the Debian project received."

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  1. SLASHDOT IST TOT by Mr.+Piccolo · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Slashdot ist tot. Auf weidershen.

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    1. Re:SLASHDOT IST TOT by istartedi · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      And God killed it.

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    2. Re:SLASHDOT IST TOT by Mr.+Piccolo · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      So CmdrTaco = God?

      Don't make me laugh.

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  2. WARNING!!! Karma Whore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    moderators, do your worst

  3. Re:widening post in slashdot comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    That doesn't really widen the page for me in galeon, you should find a way to get around that. Thanks.

  4. corporate influence by ghack · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    >>HE IS A CORPORATE THUG.

    can't disagree with that. this post is the most insightful thing I have ever read!! even more insightfull than orwell and salinger combined! this post rocks! who else in the slashdot "community" thinks we need more irritating, snobby, jerky, 13 year old trolls? slashdot would be far more interesting with a "troll only" policy.

    it would work like this:
    get modded to troll, +50 karma
    get modded flamebait, slashdot gives kenneth lay $40
    get modded insightful, you get to punch a troll

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  5. Re:My cat's breath smells like catfood... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    hahahahahaha

    you r0x0r.

  6. Microsoft by JPriest · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Anyone hear about Micsosofts plans with XP SP1?
    I just thought you all would like to know but what are the odd of getting Taco to post such info to the main page? What about Morpheus being down meaning it's not actually even real p2p debunking nearly their entire defence strategy? I guess it's only posted if it's good news for the open source linux hippies in the world. /. is yellow journalism for unrealistic open source hippies.

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  7. How to Fry an Egg with an Athlon XP by RMSIsAnIdiot · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    According to http://www.handyscripts.co.uk/trubador_egg.htm you can ditch your frying pan and fry an egg with your processor!

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  8. First slashdot is dying post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Yeah, I could talk all about how slashdot is dying,
    but I'm sure you all know that anyways. So slashdot
    is dying. Put your own reasons here.

    1. Re:First slashdot is dying post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      I think slashdot would not be very popular in the near future. THe whole OSDN network is dying and it is sad. Linux.com id dead. themes.org is super slow. Valinux is dead. Vasoftware stupid to think that they can have a business around sourceforge. slashdot would be next. It is sad though because these sites are really valuable linux sites. I worry about sourceforge every day, I know about the other alternative but they can't handle the number of projects sourceforge has. It would be a great loss if sourceforge start charging people for their service. I hope IBM, redhat and other companies that benefit from open source to provide a free alternative to sourceforge soon because I think that osdn isn't going to be here in the future.

  9. Re:Hope it works out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Heh. Look who got the -1 troll, and who (although really trolling), got the +1 mod. Jealous? Heh. I gots l337 propaganda skillz, linux kiddie.

  10. One more step... by castlan · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    Wow, integrated cryptography! Now why does that sound familiar?

    Oh yeah... It seems that the Debian Project is one step closer to supplanting OpenBSD. ;)

    Four years without a remote hole in the default install!

    The OpenBSD project produces a FREE, multi-platform 4.4BSD-based UNIX-like operating system. Our efforts emphasize portability, standardization, correctness, proactive security and integrated cryptography. OpenBSD supports binary emulation of most programs from SVR4 (Solaris), FreeBSD, Linux, BSD/OS, SunOS and HP-UX.

    OpenBSD is freely available from our FTP sites, and also available in an inexpensive 3-CD set. The current release is OpenBSD 3.0 which started shipping December 1, 2001. The CDs (and Shirts) can be ordered...

    OpenBSD contains OpenSSH, which supports SSH1 and SSH2!

    OpenBSD is developed by volunteers. The project funds development and releases by selling CDs and T-shirts, as well as receiving donations. Organizations and individuals donate and thus ensure that OpenBSD will continue to exist, and will remain free for everyone to use and reuse as they see fit.

    It seems that OpenSSH is still being integrated into the main archive of Debian, Woody (aka 3.0) is still awaiting release, and there is no specific holistic proactive security project. Nevertheless, portability, correctness et al. are definitely emphasized. Now the binary emulation may seem a dubious feature in many cases, especially with Linux occasionally recieving more support than many commercial Unices, though there are some efforts at binary emulation on Suns.

    Okay, I'll admit - this was a troll. OpenBSD is still very valuable and viable, and still the best choice for security minded situations. But as yet another bulwark of OpenBSD is breached by Debian, this topic will again merit reevaluation. I still feel that the distant future will find OpenBSD being outpaced by whatever system the Debian Project presents, be it still based on Linux, a more direct BSD derivative, or a more direct embodiment of the GNU System.

    -castlan
  11. What are you waiting for? by pioppo · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Hey! Yes I'm talking to you, there in the states...

    Why are you still there instead of migrating in
    a really democratic country, where citizens are
    free too write/use/export/pubish/reverse-engineer
    any kind of software they like?

  12. The FuckSlashdotNow Report issue #1: Nested Mode by FuckSlashdotNow · · Score: -1, Offtopic
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