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Morpheus DOS'd and Moving to Gnutella

wackysootroom writes "According to a message from the CEO of Music City, a group of individuals has launched a DOS attack and tampered with the morpheus network in order to disallow logons to the FastTrack P2P filesharing network through the client. According to the CEO's note, the hack involves changing registry settings on the client's machine (ouch) and rerouting the messages destined for their ad servers. The good news in all of this is that morpheus will be giving up the proprietary FastTrack network for a Gnutella based filsharing system." It's an icky framed page and you have to click through to read the really interesting parts, but it looks to be true. Wonder how Gnutella will handle the growth spike.

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  1. Grokster w/o spyware by 3ryon · · Score: 5, Informative

    For the many people (myself included) who are now looking for a different FastTrack client check out this execellent page on how to install Grokster without spyware.

    1. Re:Grokster w/o spyware by Constrain_Me · · Score: 4, Informative

      Since you mentioned it... here's Clean LimeWire Limewire without Spyware.

      features include
      * No spyware, trojans, or viruses
      * No advertisements
      * Bleeding edge core LimeWire components
      * LimeWire setup window during first launch for optimum performance
      * Small installer size (Clean LimeWire=2.1 MBs vs Official LimeWire=3.8 MBs)
      * Clean, friendly installation
      * No registry entries
      * Simple uninstaller included
      * Fully compatible with official LimeWire release.
      * Tested for compatibility within the new Windows XP operating system
      * Fixed several bugs: German install compatibility (includes other countries now, too), improved LimeWire execution, corrected desktop icon, failure of LW to minimize to system tray, & more.

    2. Re:Grokster w/o spyware by kz45 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Since you mentioned it... here's Clean LimeWire [geocities.com] Limewire without Spyware

      Filenavigator is better.

      1) never had any spyware to begin with
      2) searches the gnutella network
      3) searches its own p2p network
      4) fast/many search results

  2. Unframed by GSV+NegotiableEthics · · Score: 4, Informative

    Click here for the unframed version. After a very brief introduction, the main story is here.

  3. Gnucleus... by Canis · · Score: 5, Informative
    Morpheus Preview Edition is basically just Gnucleus, which is a GPL'd Gnutella client for Windows. So you might as well just use Gnucleus -- it's got all the same features (plus some Morpheus PE doesn't appear to have yet -- I guess they must've forked off an earlier version).

    Better still, Gnuclues doesn't have banner adverts, let alone (ick) popups.

  4. Gnutella? by Evro · · Score: 5, Informative
    I wonder why they don't use the giFT network.
    What is giFT, you ask? giFT is an acronym which stands for the GNU Internet File Transfer project. This project is an initiative to attempt to unify the divided peer-to-peer community following Napster's demise. The basic underlying concept of giFT is that there should be no direct connection between the user interface preferred by the user, and the back-end protocol. This is tackled using a collection of several components together:

    src/
    The giFT daemon acts as a "bridge" between multiple backend file sharing protocols, exposing them to the end developer in an easy to understand XML-like interface protocol. Yes, I know what you're thinking "hey, that sounds a lot like Jabber!". Well, you're partly correct. Jabber worked by setting up a finite number of translation servers on the Internet, requiring the user to authenticate with one extra remote server in order to take advantage of this technology. We feel that the task would be better handled by a local daemon that acts transparently to the user, feeding the benefits solely to the developer. The giFT team believes that the best way to improve the state of file sharing on the Internet is to allow developers to take on the complex (and unique) tasks specific to their project, rather than re-inventing the wheel that each interface and network must have.

    OpenFT/
    OpenFT is a p2p network designed to exploit all the functionality giFT supports. Loosely based on FastTrack's design, OpenFT aims to become the new pseudo standard in file trading on the Internet, but we'll settle for Total World Domination.
    --
    rooooar
    1. Re:Gnutella? by cduffy · · Score: 4, Informative

      giFT no longer accesses the FastTrack network. It currently accesses the OpenFT network just fine.

    2. Re:Gnutella? by qwkbrnfox · · Score: 2, Informative

      I was following the development of giFT for a long time. There was a change of leadership recently, and quite a bit of turmoil. The new leaders are a little, er, touchy (check the sourceforge messages - some of them are pretty funny) However, there is now a totally usable (if not feature-rich) front end for giFT.I'm still using gnutella because of the bigger base, but I'm going to make a point of leaving a giFT daemon running. Give it a try - it looks like a good protocol, and it's dead easy to install (use the CVS, follow the instructions) and let run in the background.

  5. My Impressions by Master+Of+Ninja · · Score: 4, Informative

    I got the new Morpehus client and it does seem to be a less "polished" client (proabably as it is a knocked off version of Gnutella shipped out in a hurry). The system seems quite good (as I have not used Gnutella much) but I think it will take a few days for traffic to pick up to its usual levels. The UI needs to be changed a wee bit as it is slightly confusing. I'm sure multi-source downloads are in (although you can't tell what each source is doing like before) but I'm not sure if their supernode feature is still there. They need the quick filter system in where you can select what media to search for (e.g. music, video, documents).

    One thing that is lacking in Gnutella is metadata - when downloading songs you can't tell how long they are, what album they are from (important when there are many different versions of a song - radio/street/2 step edits etc.), and comments about this. Hopefully this can be added to a new spec of the Gnutella network so all companies using the standard can have a common format.

    I think this will be good for p2p and gnutella: an open standard, which will (hopefully) become better over time. If musiccity really GPLs their work with Gnucleus, everyone should be a winner.

  6. GPL Violation? by Majix · · Score: 4, Informative

    I just tried the new version... Morpheus Preview Edition is basically an old version of the GPL'ed program Gnucleus. When you install it even displays the GPL as the click-through license.

    They're however not providing the source, not yet at least. The Gnucleus developers claim that Morpheus didn't even bother contacting them before doing this.

    1. Re:GPL Violation? by manly_15 · · Score: 2, Informative

      The source code is avalible here If you can't follow the link, go to musiccity.com and click on 'source code' in the bottom left frame.

  7. I know that Kazaa is not performing as well by sam_handelman · · Score: 4, Informative

    I believe that Morpheus is telling the truth, since my personal experiences back them up. I will ramble now:

    Okay, silly man that I am, I had both Morpheus and Kazaa installed on my machine (even though, until recently, they were exactly the same.)

    So, last week, Kazaa, which is what I ordinarily used since I have a sick attraction to the color yellow, stops working well. The number of hits I get for searches drops by about a quarter, when I search successfully at all; for some reason I keep getting booted from the network and having to reconnect. "That's odd" I say to myself. Also, it proceeds to ignore the "maximum uploads" setting in my preferences, which I keep low so that other broadband users can get my files in reasonable time. Personally, I suspect that Kazaa installed some "upgrades" for itself without prompting me (or I clicked through the prompt without noticing, always a possibility); I should probably check timestamps and see. I have it set to prompt before auto-updates, but since it's ignoring some of my preferences I don't know how much I trust that.

    Out of curiosity, I start Morpheus; and I get the message about being unable to connect to the network. So, Morpheus' failure to connect seems to coincide with Kazaa's service collapse - which is exactly what I'd expect given that 90% of the users within four hops of me (New York City) use Morpheus instead of Kazaa.

    Now, I don't know about these DOS attacks / advertisement hacks. I tried to connect to Morpheus several times during this period, and none of my regsitry keys have been fiddled with, at least as far as I can tell. Ad-aware doesn't find anything wrong.

    Okay, back to the conspiracy theory. I assume that the Aussie company that bought Kazaa is trying to crowd Morpheus out. While you and I know this is stupid, to them this must make sense; they think they can get all of Morpheus' old users to switch to Kazaa, boosting their add revenues.

    Given this sort of despicable behavior on their part, I am willing to give Morpheus' the benefit of the doubt: the implication of Morpheus' comments is that someone involved in the Kazaa stack - that is to say, this Australian company that bought Kazaa - is behind whatever attacks occured.

    Personally, I want to see the contract that Morpheus entered into with Kazaa for use of their network/software.

    --
    The good and new comes from no quarter where it is looked for, and is always something different from what is expected.
    1. Re:I know that Kazaa is not performing as well by uebernewby · · Score: 3, Informative

      Might be something to your conspiracy theory - if you go to the kazaa website, they're specifically urging morpheus users to switch over.

      --

      News and bla for computer musicians: http://lomechanik.net/
  8. Re:Excellent, if the gnutella network can scale... by jilles · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's doing fine so far.

    If you go to the limewire site, click on the "network size" menu option and than the "historical", you will get a nice graph of the gnutella network size. You will notice two significant increases in network size over the past few months.

    The first one occured when limewire released their 2.0 client with super peer functionality. Essentially this eliminated most of the scalability issues. The second little bump occured when morpheus released their gnutella client yesterday.

    Right now the graph indicates over 200K nodes in the network. I'm connected to it using the limewire client. I consider this to be one of the best gnutella GUIs but luckily there's plenty of alternatives for those who don't like it.

    Two notable features are missing however (also in the new morpheus client): Browsing someone else's files (like napster used to be able to do, morpheus consistently crashed if I tried to use this feature) and displaying/searching meta information (like album or song name).

    The first feature would require a change to the protocol. Limewire tried to implement it using download slots but generally there are not enough available for this to work. The second feature requires some standard way of handling queries (right now it is unspecified what a gnutella client should do with a query).

    --

    Jilles
  9. Re:The Morpheus users DON'T like this at all! by Tadrith · · Score: 2, Informative

    I agree completely. I've attempted to use Gnutella before, with many other clients, and all I've ever met with was frustration with the network. I mean, really, my average download speed was about 3K/sec. Looks like I'll have to figure out a way to use KaZaa without them spying on me.

  10. Re:The Morpheus users DON'T like this at all! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    > the Gnutella network appears to just be an all
    > around poor method of sharing files

    One thing I don't think people understand is that gnutella is basically just a search mechanism with a P2P transfer afterward. Once your search is complete and you begin your download, the transfer rate depends on the upload bandwidth of other person's computer. Download speed has LITTLE to do with the program you are running.

    Also, I think trying to use gnutella over a modem is relatively painful, because of the lack of bandwidth. When using a 56K modem, downloads go about half the speed because the gnutella protocol takes 1 or 2 kbps. When using DSL, the bandwidth used by the gnutella protocol is almost negligable.

    As of a month or two ago, I've now downloaded more material from the gnutella network than I ever did from Napster. Napster functioned better, I agree, but Bearshare/Limewire/etc. all get the job done quite well.

  11. Re:The Morpheus users DON'T like this at all! by kraf · · Score: 2, Informative
    > What the hell is a spyware ?

    Try this page

  12. READ THIS NOW by billybob · · Score: 5, Informative

    What's really happening (probably).

    I was one of the people who installed kazaa, and after readnig that, it is getting immediately uninstalled.

    --
    Joseph?
  13. Source Code for Morpheus Available by grishnav · · Score: 2, Informative

    The released it, here it is:
    http://start.musiccity.com/source/mpesrc1.zip

  14. Xolox, still the best GNUtella client by Jagasian · · Score: 3, Informative

    I highly recommend Xolox to anyone that can run Windows applications and uses GNUtella (haven't tried using it with Wine yet, could work). Xolox supports swarming, segmented downloading, resuming, automatic mirror searching, etc...

    Xolox makes GNUtella useful! Trust me, you will find what you are looking for with Xolox, and you will be able to download it very quickly. Other clients lack swarming, which causes downloads to be a slow unreliable gamble, but with swarming, when you select to download a file, Xolox automatically searches for other peers that are sharing the same file - then Xolox downloads parts of the file concurrently from several peers. This allows for you to get maximum use of your broadband net connection. Furthermore, if you are downloading a file, and for some reason all of the peers that you were downloading from disconnect, Xolox searches for new peers with the file and resume the download were it left off. All of this is automatic, transparent, and very user-friendly.

    While the company that made Xolox went under due to legal issues, a cracked version is available from the popular P2P site Zeropaid. Check it out! It's free, and it's useful.

    1. Re:Xolox, still the best GNUtella client by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Yea, great and while you get your file, no one else can get anything cause you took up all the download slots available. Thanks.
      Greed will take down any network.
      Watch out for big changes Morph will force on gnutella without asking the community.
      Use open source clients only and help save the network.

  15. GOOD news?!? by Wonko42 · · Score: 3, Informative
    The good news in all of this is that morpheus will be giving up the proprietary FastTrack network for a Gnutella based filsharing system.

    How exactly is this good news? Have you used the Gnutella network recently? The larger it gets, the more it sucks. It does not scale well at all. Gnutella often sucks down more of my bandwidth just dealing with other peoples' searches than it does downloading the files I want. And finding the files I want is another matter altogether -- even if I do find a file named "Funk Soul Brother.mp3", I have absolutely no way of knowing whether it's really Fatboy Slim or just some renamed Enya track.

    I love the FastTrack network, proprietary or not. It's got all the good bits of Gnutella without most of the bad bits. My bandwidth isn't sucked up by searches, and I can almost always find exactly what I want with one search. Furthermore, the amount of information it gives me on each file enables me to be pretty certain that I'm getting what I want before I start downloading it.

    I think this is sad. I liked Morpheus. Now I'll be switching to Kazaa. Oh well.