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Kazaa Conundrum -- The Plot Thickens

Robotech_Master writes "The ever continuing Kazaa controversy just keeps getting better. This article on Wired highlights Brilliant Digital Entertainment, the company that brokered Kazaa's sale to the Australian firm, and indicates that the RIAA is investigating them."

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  1. The RIAA will gain the upper hand by TrollMan+5000 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When the various file-sharing networks can't even get along. Morpheus is down already!

    It seems like the piracy industry is falling to the same problems the RIAA did - greed.

    1. Re:The RIAA will gain the upper hand by crc32 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I guess this is where my main criticism of the file-sharing/P2P industry lies. If we want to win the battle, we can't be cought fighting ourselves. The RIAA/MPAA is extremely well funded, well lawyered, and has the law on their side. We have the internet and network-effects on ours. But when we fractionate our market with petty disputes, the powerful weapon of network effects are no longer helping us.

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    2. Re:The RIAA will gain the upper hand by mystery_bowler · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I agree. If you think for a moment you (as a business or conglomerate thereof) are going to make a mint providing the means to pirate, you're sadly mistaken. Sure, you might make some money. Maybe even pretty good money. But if you start showing as a blip on the RIAA's earnings radar, you and your lawyers are going to find yourself first very busy and second out of business.

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    3. Re:The RIAA will gain the upper hand by danro · · Score: 2, Insightful

      For the record:
      I don't feel any sympathy for the people that try to make money from P2P (Napster, Kazaa...).
      They are no better than the RIAA in my eyes.
      But in the short term we have a common goal.
      To spred filesharing to the general public.

      I truly believe that a world without all these mindboggling restrictions on information exchange would be a better place.

      The amount of money in the music business would be smaller, but by cutting out the now obsolete middle-men the money would go to the only ones in the business that deservs any: The ones that do the actual work! The artists!

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  2. The more the RIAA tightens its grip... by Bonker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The more star systems will slip through its fingers.

    (+1 Bad Starwars Reference)

    The RIAA is 'investigating' this company? Regardless of Brilliant Digital Entertainment's ethics or motives, the RIAA is not a governmental body and is acting like it has the power of subpeona.

    All this is going to do is create new Morpheuses. Sure, they went to Gnutella rather than FT, but ended up contributing source back to the Gnutella project. It may be mostly GUI source, but User Interface is something that most open source projects are usually a little lacking in. I haven't looked at the source yet, but maybe they added one or two improvements into the way Gnutella files are transmitted that will now make it into other open source filesharing projects.

    By forcing their 'enemies' underground, the RIAA is cutting off its own fingers.

    Three cheers for Nullsoft for creating an unstoppable monster! Three cheers for all the people who've built and expanded upon Gnutella ever since, including Morpheus.

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    1. Re:The more the RIAA tightens its grip... by scott1853 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Personally I think the RIAA has won a battle if they've forced another client onto the gnutella network.

      It's nice to have 5,000 machines hosting the same file, but it's a pain in the ass to find the 10 that you can actually download from at faster than .5K/s.

  3. RIAA shows how evil it really is. by Your_Mom · · Score: 4, Insightful
    "We do not intend to stand idly by while others build business illegally off of our music," said Matt Oppenheim

    Call me old fashioned, but I always thought that music might belong to people that created, for example, maybe.... The artists?

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    1. Re:RIAA shows how evil it really is. by mazachan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      While I feel the same way also, but when bands and singers sign on with a record label, don't they essentially sell the rights to their music to the record company? If that is correct, then technically it is their music.

  4. Brilliant Digital controls Kazaa, tracks piracy. by Templar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Brilliant Digital and Sharman have common employees. There is a definite financial link between the two. Look at the whois for sharmannetworks.com, and note the owner -- Phil Morle. Now, look at his site, creations.morle.com, and check out his employer.

    Now that you're on the Brilliant Digital site, check out their 'Anti-Piracy Statement':

    BDE has embedded proprietary encryption technology capable of tracking all copyright infringements.

    Combine that with their known partners -- Time Warner among them -- and you have a possible international conspiracy...

    Now we know why the RIAA wanted laws changed to allow them to hack p2p networks. Of course, they never did get it passed....

  5. Re:Make it affordable by joe52 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why does it have to be affordable? I can't just fiddle with a $50,000 Sun box because I'm curious (unless I happen to have legitimate access to one or went out and cracked into or simply stole one). I'd like to drive a Porshe, but I drive a Honda instead since that's what I can afford.

    There's no reason why someone has to make their products affordable to you. Photoshop sells pretty well at its current price. If you can't afford it there are alternatives, both in the form of cheaper programs that do less (PaintShop Pro comes to mind) as well as in open source alternatives (gimp). I'm sure that the kind people at Adobe have considered the fact that they could sell more licenses if they sold Photoshop for $50, but I'm also pretty sure that they think they wouldn't make as much money that way (which is something that they should be allowed to do).

  6. Re:Make it affordable by Jack_of_Hearts · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Are you joking?

    Gee, how can the average person who wants to drive a ferrari afford $300,000 for the car? Your stealing. Just because it's easy doesn't make it right. Oh, and people do actually buy the software. Adobe makes a pretty nice living, no thanks to idiots like you.

  7. Thanks Kazaa/Fast Track by Pinball+Wizard · · Score: 4, Insightful

    for proving that your "P2P" network really is centrally controlled. That was quite a stunt, kicking all those Morpheus users off, then trying to lure them back into the network to use Kazaa.

    I really hope the majority of people see right through this, choose Morpheus(and therefore gnutella), and I hope this gets fast track shut down.

    Its not true P2P if someone can flip a switch and cut everyone off. P2P is supposed to have no central control so when these programs become illegal(and there's no doubt they will shut them down if they can) they will live on because the network will still be there, and hopefully the project will also still be there living on in some enlightened country without industry sponsored politicians and the DMCA.

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  8. Re:Make it affordable by bluebomber · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The difference is that your next job probably won't rely on you driving a Porsche in the past or not. However, Photoshop skills are marketable, and could land you a job. It's the old catch 22; you can't get a job without knowing the software, and you can't afford the software without a job.

    Stop your whining. If you want to talk about photoshop as a tool and "photoshop skills" as a marketable job skill, make an applicable analogy -- a high-powered car doesn't cut it.

    Instead, think about getting a job as a carpenter. You have to know how to use the tools, but you can't afford to go out and get yourself a top-of-the-line DeWalt table saw for $1300. Instead all you can afford is a crappy used $200 table saw. Will the skills you acquire using the crappy saw transfer to the DeWalt? You betcha.

    Like another poster mentioned, acquiring skills is an *investment*. Defer and/or neglect self-investment at your own peril.

    From a business perspective, Adobe has positioned Photoshop as the "Cadillac" in their category. This is a pricing strategy. There are other pricing strategies available, but Adobe has chosen this one. If you're in the store with money to burn and a desire for quality, you're most likely going to pick the product that is higher priced -- this is generally associated with higher quality. This is the behavior that those who use this pricing strategy (eg Adobe) are counting on.

  9. Re:I'm really getting sick of this... by ryanwright · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Music is not software, you can't give it away... especially when it technically belongs to someone else.

    Especially nothing.

    You CAN give music away, EXCEPT when it belongs to someone else.

    Don't tell me you really believe I can't record a song and give it to anyone I damn well please... If it's my song, or if the copyright owner wants it to be free, then I can give it away all I want.

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  10. When did Pirating become the norm anyways ? by insane8 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    is it just me or does anyone else remember the days of sneeking around to swap files on a BBS? FTP's still do exist right??
    When exactly did it become socially acceptable to launch multimillion dollar corperations based on Pirating Music/Software/Pornography ??? I'm not trying to be a hipocrit or anything cause my MP3/Warez/Porn collection could impress even the geekiest of geeks, but if I opened a "Stolen Goods & Porn Store" and advertised it on TV, I would be expecting a knock on the door from the police.

    People will always :

    1.Burn red lights
    2.Lie to the IRS (Revenue Canada)
    3.Steel Music

    The idea is that you don't go around announcing it to everyone !!