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Kazaa Admits to Morpheus Shutdown

An Anonymous Coward writes: "KaZaa yesterday admitted to CNET that it was behind the shutout of Morpheus from the FastTrack network. Their reason? The company didn't pay its bills. Still, there has to be more to it than that for KaZaa to cut them off so quickly and unexpectedly, especially since a P2P network's power lies in the size of its audience. There is some weird cat-and-mouse play going on here that can only be damaging to both sides in the upcoming trial against the RIAA and MPAA in California."

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  1. oh, come on... by pinkUZI · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why does everything corporate have to be this big conspiracy? If a company wasn't paying its bills is it really all that surrising that they were shut down?

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  2. i think they screwed up bad by fist_187 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    by shutting down morpheus, they just admitted that they have control over their network and users. now they're screwed in terms of legal defense. meanwhile, morpheus switches to gnutella and will probably survive the onslaught.

    how ironic...

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  3. They control the authentication -- NOT the network by klieber · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Kazaa, et al DOES NOT have control over the network. The only thing they control is the authentication mechanism. Once you're authenticated, you have complete, unfettered access to the network and Kazaa has no control over what you do/don't share.

    With Napster, it was different since Napster *did* control what files were/weren't shared. With fast track, however, all they can control is whether or not you get on the network. So (and IANAL) as long as they can show that there are legitimate uses for the fast track network, I will be surprised if they get shut down.

    To liken it to the Betamax court case that everyone likes to toss around, Sony had control over whether or not you could buy a VCR, but once you owned that VCR, Sony had no control over what you could or couldn't record.

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  4. I am thru with it, and you should be too... by sluggie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Face it people, name it Morpheus, name it Kazaa, name it something else.

    What shuts such network down?
    It's the money, always.

    Who is pissed off in the end?
    The user, always.

    So, what is the solution to all this?
    Gnutella, always.

    I know, my post sounds something like a troll, but please, think about it.
    Let's all migrate to gnutella, fire up you favourite client and let's start sharing.
    We will se how gnutella scales, how it evolves. I think if we all pull over to the only true p2p architecture, we will shut out the MPAA the RIAA and all other stuff that bothers us.

    Yes, maybe people with 56k modems won't be very happy with this. But to speak in the words of a modern time, the collateral damage is everywhere.
    And as time goes on, everybody is going to be on a better connection.

    So, let's shape up, put your middle finger in the air and use gnutella...

    Just my 0.02

  5. Re:Delete Morpheus, install Gnucleus by Rogerborg · · Score: 5, Insightful
    • They did not even contact the developers of Gnucleus before they ripped off their software

    OK, deep breaths. They are 100% compliant with the GPL license, as I think the reporting debacle on here showed. Do we say that every commercial X/GNU/Linux distro "rips off" Linus, and GNU and KDE/Gnome and a whole load of other developers? No, we say that they promote them, bring them to a wider audience, support and develop them, and contribute their revenues back to the whole.

    So let's give Morpheus enough rope to hang themselves. If they spend their ad money developing the client, and if they keep releasing source, and if they don't bring an assload of hurt to the whole project, then they'll be providing the same service as a commercial linux distro.

    Do I think that'll happen? No, based on their past behaviour, I think they'll fork off a version that will refuse to serve content to other Gnutella clients while still leeching from them, flat out refuse to release the source, and bring the Men In Black to the party. But let's give them a little time to prove their guilt please.

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  6. Re:Fair use is not a black and white issue by dpotter · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Rogerborg takes a very complex issue and attempts to reduce it to a simple black-and-white statement. He defends this viewpoint in a strong tone, and is contemptuous of other viewpoints offered by slashdot readers.

    IANAL, so instead of arguing the point, I present this post as a list of expert opinions which contradict Rogerborg's position.

    Rogerborg: Look, I'll spell it out again, shall I? There is no clause in fair use, there never has been one, that allows fair use for anything other than: (1) criticism and comment, (2) parody and satire, (3) scholarship and research, (4) news reporting and (5) teaching. To qualify for consideration under the fair use defence, your use must fall into these categories. You don't even get to argue the "negligible impact" until you've shown that you qualify. There is no case zero. There is no case six.
    According to the EFF, this list of fair use activities is "not to be construed as exclusive or limiting in any way."

    Current national security advisor Condoleezza Rice authored a paper on fair use in 1988, in which she states "The concept of fair use is necessarily somewhat vague when discussed in the abstract. Its application depends critically on the particular facts of the individual situation. Neither the case law nor the statutory law provides bright lines concerning which uses are fair and which are not."

    As mentioned in the previous post, the Sony vs. Universal City Studios Case contradicts Rogerborg's black-and-white interpretation of section 107, as it defines time-shifting television programs as fair use.

    Previous case law has held that the following are fair uses of copyrighted materials:

    Making personal backups of software.

    Time-shifting television programs.

    Format-shifting.

    Compilation creation ("mix tapes")

    Rebroadcasting radio in a business.

    In short, a wide body of experts seem to disagree with the viewpoint espoused by Rogerborg. I exhort you to consider this when reading his posts. I further ask that you consider that he was willing to defend his viewpoint so vehemently in spite of the contradictory expert viewpoints readily available.