It depends on what 501 status we pursue. 501(c)(3) organizations are considered "charitable" organizations and donations to these entities are tax deductible. 501(c)(6) is a trade organization and organizations to these entities are not tax deductible.
That's inaccurate. We are a not-for-profit organization right now. Today. The Federal status (which is mainly for tax purposes) will take another 6 months to formally complete.
Daniel was an important, driving force behind Gentoo and his absence will undoubtedly be felt on the team. That said, he has laid the groundwork for a Not-for-Profit organization, lead by a Board of Trustees that will continue to ensure that Gentoo Linux remains a vibrant, capable distribution.
For those of you concerned about this change, I remind you that Gentoo is one of the few remaining community-based Linux distributions. We are as successful as our community makes us. Thus, the best thing you can do to ensure the future success of Gentoo is to participate in its development, whether it be through testing ebuilds, writing documentation, fixing bugs on bugzilla or any one of the thousands of myriad tasks that make up Gentoo Linux.
I'm not sure what Daniel's plans are for the future, but I wish him the best in whatever he chooses to pursue.
That's simply not accurate. etc-update shows the difference between the actual file and the new file being installed by the package. So, if you've customized your/etc/fstab file, and you install a new version of baselayout, etc-update will show the changes that you've made to your fstab file and diff it against the unmodified version installed by the baselayout package.
I own the book and have been using it for a couple of weeks now. All in all, I think it's a great resource if you already have a fair amount of linux knowledge. I purchased it primarily because of its coverage of cfengine but found it useful for other purposes as well.
Definitely not for the newbie system administrator (nor does it pretend to be). But it is a great resource if you're looking to administer more boxes with less bodies.
If you thought the discussion on gentoo-user was amusing, you should have seen the flamewar on #gentoo. I am amazed and astounded at how many people fell for this joke. Of course, I speak with inside knowledge of the project, but the idea that we would migrate to RPMs for our package management format is simply not in the realm of possibility. I assumed most people would realize that, too.:)
Then again, we did go to great pains to research the LSB to come up with support, albeit tenuous, for our arguments.
The emerge process for KDE took all day long between downloading the source and compiling, whereas on Red Hat or Debian it would have been done in minutes.
That's the difference between compiling the source from scratch, custom-tailored to your hardware, based on settings that you decide upon vs. installing a pre-compiled binary that is not customizable based on your hardware.
Then to top it off, the X servers compiled by it were not functional because of an unresolved global. Something obviously was missing from their dependency graphs;
You probably just needed to modify your/etc/XII/XF86Config file. Most distros give you a vanilla file that gets you up and running. Gentoo assumes you want to custom-create one.
Why? Gentoo has been using the XFS patches for a while now and it seems really stable.
Correction -- Gentoo was using the XFS patches for a while. They were pulled out in r9 of gentoo-sources due to corruption and stability problems. (might have been r8, now that I think of it)
And yeah, why not take Aethera and build on that - it's already more integrated with itself and other things, and I'm sure the Kompany could have used a nice gov't contract just as much as the team that got it (maybe moreso).
From the article:
"Erfrakon, Intevation and Klarälvdalens Datakonsult AB have won a bid to write a Free software groupware server and client for the German "Bundesamt für Sicherheit in der Informationstechnik" (Federal Agency for IT Security, BSI)."
Those names sure sound a lot more German than "the Kompany" does...
No, in fact, the problem is not that my point was wrong, it's that you can't read. I said there were two key points from the article. If you'd bothered to read the article, you would see that, sure enough, that's what they say. Maybe the article was wrong, but then you shouldn't be attacking my post, you should be attacking the article itself.
So, before you go around shooting your virtual mouth off, get your facts straight.
1. The systems will cost just as much as if you'd ordered them with Windows in the first place.
2. They're aimed primarily at large companies and won't, for the most part, be available to consumers via Dell's web site. (their workstations will, but not the generic line of optiplexes.
Given point 1, I fail to see how this is a Big Deal, other than the obvious snub at Microsoft.
I think part of the reason you have such high numbers for Apple is because they have control over the entire machine. They make the hardware, they make the software, and they certify the parts that hook up to their hardware. PC manufactureres don't have that luxury.
That's simply not true. Apple does not design or build the RAM, CPU, CD-ROM, DVD, video card or any other major peripheral in the system. Apple does design their own mobo, granted. But so does Dell, Compaq and most other large PC manufacturers. It's only the whitebox screwdriver shops that use off-the-shelf parts. Plus, Dell goes through the same hardware certification process that Apple does to ensure a particular device will work as expected in their computer.
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Who said profit was a dirty word?
[reads original post -- looks for negative reference to profit]
I'm not sure where you saw that reference, but it sure as hell wasn't in the original post. The original post simply said you could save money if you were willing to do it yourself. Why is DIY a dirty word?
You shouldn't need to replace your case and power supply
Actually, that's not true. With the P4, Intel now requires an ATX12V PSU, instead of just a "regular" ATX PSU. The main difference is the +12VDC connector on the newer PSU.
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Should anybody really be surprised that a company that is in the business of making money isn't nice to people that no longer wants to give them money?
Yes, because presumably these companies understand that negative customer service experiences are recounted countless numbers of times, with the net result being their reputation taking a hit. If, however, they made the process easy for customers, maybe they wouldn't be on the front page of/. in a negative context.
Granted, a lot of ISPs don't seem to grasp this concept, but there are other companies out there that do. (Nordstrom's no-hassle return policy comes to mind)
So, yes, we should be surprised -- shocked, even, that Fortune 500 companies could be so short-sighted and stupid when it comes to customer relations.
I don't think you understand my point -- even if the cost of two naval ships are variable, it is generally possible to say "naval ship A cost us $100 and naval ship B cost us $500"
Boeing cannot quantify those figures for a 747. When a 747 rolls off the production line, they do not know how much that plane has cost them to build.
I don't care how you slice it, when a company cannot define the cost of their product, that's a problem.
I think he means the Boeing that still has no idea exactly how much it costs to build an airplane. No, I'm not kidding -- a friend of mine works in their procurement department. They've been struggling for years to figure out what the total cost of a 747 is. Still don't know.
There may be a bunch of smart people working at Boeing, but that doesn't necessarily make Boeing, as a corporate entity, smart.
Look junior, as a friendly suggestion, next time do a little bit of research
before you start flaming other people's suggestions. Included in that research
should be actually reading the articles that you point to. That way, you might
realize that the problem Toms Hardware found was because they completely
removed the HSF, not because it was using a passive cooling method.
Additionally, Toms Hardware's main beef with the Athlon was the fact that there
was a lack of thermal protection, which turned out to be a flaw in the
mainboard specs, not the Athlon or the HSF.
Feel free to be as skeptical as you want, but my Zalman flower
cooler has been keeping my Athlon XP 1700 plenty cool for several months
now -- CPU temps range in the 40C-50C range, even under the heaviest of loads
like kernel compiles (and KDE3 compiles).
If you'd bothered doing any research before slamming my suggestion, you'd
discover that the way the Zalman (and most other passive heatsinks) work is by
placing a 80MM case fan somewhere near the passive heatsink, just like you
yourself suggest.
BTW, there's no reason to go with the YSTech fan -- you can obtain 20+ CFM with
a Papst or a Panaflo, both of which are rated at 25dB(A). The YSTech fan
comes in closer to 40dB(A).
There is no reason a system has to be that loud. Generally, removing the case venting will reduce a lot of the turbulence (and thus noise) in your system. Additionally, you can replace your fans with cooler ones like Papst or Panaflos.
The noisiest (or at least most annoying) components in a system tend to be the small fans, such as CPU fans and video card fans. You can replace those with passive heatsinks and then run larger (quieter) 80mm case fans to maintain enough airflow to keep things quiet.
For more information on keeping your system quiet, see the web site in my sig.
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and organizations to these entities are not tax deductible.
/me goes to emerge coffee
Of course...that should have said "and donations to these entities are not tax deductible."
How about charging people for Gentoo, making a profit on it, and creating wealth, instead of a non-quantifiable warm & fuzzy feeling?
Our software is GPL'd. You're welcome to pursue this. We chose a different path.
It depends on what 501 status we pursue. 501(c)(3) organizations are considered "charitable" organizations and donations to these entities are tax deductible. 501(c)(6) is a trade organization and organizations to these entities are not tax deductible.
That's inaccurate. We are a not-for-profit organization right now. Today. The Federal status (which is mainly for tax purposes) will take another 6 months to formally complete.
Daniel was an important, driving force behind Gentoo and his absence will undoubtedly be felt on the team. That said, he has laid the groundwork for a Not-for-Profit organization, lead by a Board of Trustees that will continue to ensure that Gentoo Linux remains a vibrant, capable distribution.
For those of you concerned about this change, I remind you that Gentoo is one of the few remaining community-based Linux distributions. We are as successful as our community makes us. Thus, the best thing you can do to ensure the future success of Gentoo is to participate in its development, whether it be through testing ebuilds, writing documentation, fixing bugs on bugzilla or any one of the thousands of myriad tasks that make up Gentoo Linux.
I'm not sure what Daniel's plans are for the future, but I wish him the best in whatever he chooses to pursue.
That's simply not accurate. etc-update shows the difference between the actual file and the new file being installed by the package. So, if you've customized your /etc/fstab file, and you install a new version of baselayout, etc-update will show the changes that you've made to your fstab file and diff it against the unmodified version installed by the baselayout package.
I own the book and have been using it for a couple of weeks now. All in all, I think it's a great resource if you already have a fair amount of linux knowledge. I purchased it primarily because of its coverage of cfengine but found it useful for other purposes as well.
Definitely not for the newbie system administrator (nor does it pretend to be). But it is a great resource if you're looking to administer more boxes with less bodies.
Gentoo has several high paying sponsors such as IBM.
uhhh...no we don't and no they aren't.
--kurt
Thanks. I thought so, too. :)
:)
If you thought the discussion on gentoo-user was amusing, you should have seen the flamewar on #gentoo. I am amazed and astounded at how many people fell for this joke. Of course, I speak with inside knowledge of the project, but the idea that we would migrate to RPMs for our package management format is simply not in the realm of possibility. I assumed most people would realize that, too.
Then again, we did go to great pains to research the LSB to come up with support, albeit tenuous, for our arguments.
--kurt
The emerge process for KDE took all day long between downloading the source and compiling, whereas on Red Hat or Debian it would have been done in minutes.
/etc/XII/XF86Config file. Most distros give you a vanilla file that gets you up and running. Gentoo assumes you want to custom-create one.
That's the difference between compiling the source from scratch, custom-tailored to your hardware, based on settings that you decide upon vs. installing a pre-compiled binary that is not customizable based on your hardware.
Then to top it off, the X servers compiled by it were not functional because of an unresolved global. Something obviously was missing from their dependency graphs;
You probably just needed to modify your
--kurt
Why? Gentoo has been using the XFS patches for a while now and it seems really stable.
Correction -- Gentoo was using the XFS patches for a while. They were pulled out in r9 of gentoo-sources due to corruption and stability problems. (might have been r8, now that I think of it)
--kurt
And yeah, why not take Aethera and build on that - it's already more integrated with itself and other things, and I'm sure the Kompany could have used a nice gov't contract just as much as the team that got it (maybe moreso).
From the article:
"Erfrakon, Intevation and Klarälvdalens Datakonsult AB have won a bid
to write a Free software groupware server and client for the German
"Bundesamt für Sicherheit in der Informationstechnik" (Federal Agency
for IT Security, BSI)."
Those names sure sound a lot more German than "the Kompany" does...
Might be better yet if it had been updated in the last 18 months and/or worked with 2.4 kernels...
Your point 1 is flat wrong.
No, in fact, the problem is not that my point was wrong, it's that you can't read. I said there were two key points from the article. If you'd bothered to read the article, you would see that, sure enough, that's what they say. Maybe the article was wrong, but then you shouldn't be attacking my post, you should be attacking the article itself.
So, before you go around shooting your virtual mouth off, get your facts straight.
1. The systems will cost just as much as if you'd ordered them with Windows in the first place.
2. They're aimed primarily at large companies and won't, for the most part, be available to consumers via Dell's web site. (their workstations will, but not the generic line of optiplexes.
Given point 1, I fail to see how this is a Big Deal, other than the obvious snub at Microsoft.
--kurt
I think part of the reason you have such high numbers for Apple is because they have control over the entire machine. They make the hardware, they make the software, and they certify the parts that hook up to their hardware. PC manufactureres don't have that luxury.
That's simply not true. Apple does not design or build the RAM, CPU, CD-ROM, DVD, video card or any other major peripheral in the system. Apple does design their own mobo, granted. But so does Dell, Compaq and most other large PC manufacturers. It's only the whitebox screwdriver shops that use off-the-shelf parts. Plus, Dell goes through the same hardware certification process that Apple does to ensure a particular device will work as expected in their computer.
Who said profit was a dirty word?
[reads original post -- looks for negative reference to profit]
I'm not sure where you saw that reference, but it sure as hell wasn't in the original post. The original post simply said you could save money if you were willing to do it yourself. Why is DIY a dirty word?
--kurt
They run gentoo linux. Natch.
You shouldn't need to replace your case and power supply
u pply.htm
Actually, that's not true. With the P4, Intel now requires an ATX12V PSU, instead of just a "regular" ATX PSU. The main difference is the +12VDC connector on the newer PSU.
http://www.intel.com/home/tech/components/power_s
Should anybody really be surprised that a company that is in the business of making money isn't nice to people that no longer wants to give them money?
/. in a negative context.
Yes, because presumably these companies understand that negative customer service experiences are recounted countless numbers of times, with the net result being their reputation taking a hit. If, however, they made the process easy for customers, maybe they wouldn't be on the front page of
Granted, a lot of ISPs don't seem to grasp this concept, but there are other companies out there that do. (Nordstrom's no-hassle return policy comes to mind)
So, yes, we should be surprised -- shocked, even, that Fortune 500 companies could be so short-sighted and stupid when it comes to customer relations.
I don't think you understand my point -- even if the cost of two naval ships are variable, it is generally possible to say "naval ship A cost us $100 and naval ship B cost us $500"
Boeing cannot quantify those figures for a 747. When a 747 rolls off the production line, they do not know how much that plane has cost them to build.
I don't care how you slice it, when a company cannot define the cost of their product, that's a problem.
I think he means the Boeing that still has no idea exactly how much it costs to build an airplane. No, I'm not kidding -- a friend of mine works in their procurement department. They've been struggling for years to figure out what the total cost of a 747 is. Still don't know.
There may be a bunch of smart people working at Boeing, but that doesn't necessarily make Boeing, as a corporate entity, smart.
Look junior, as a friendly suggestion, next time do a little bit of research before you start flaming other people's suggestions. Included in that research should be actually reading the articles that you point to. That way, you might realize that the problem Toms Hardware found was because they completely removed the HSF, not because it was using a passive cooling method. Additionally, Toms Hardware's main beef with the Athlon was the fact that there was a lack of thermal protection, which turned out to be a flaw in the mainboard specs, not the Athlon or the HSF.
Feel free to be as skeptical as you want, but my Zalman flower cooler has been keeping my Athlon XP 1700 plenty cool for several months now -- CPU temps range in the 40C-50C range, even under the heaviest of loads like kernel compiles (and KDE3 compiles).
If you'd bothered doing any research before slamming my suggestion, you'd discover that the way the Zalman (and most other passive heatsinks) work is by placing a 80MM case fan somewhere near the passive heatsink, just like you yourself suggest.
BTW, there's no reason to go with the YSTech fan -- you can obtain 20+ CFM with a Papst or a Panaflo, both of which are rated at 25dB(A). The YSTech fan comes in closer to 40dB(A).
--kurt
There is no reason a system has to be that loud. Generally, removing the case venting will reduce a lot of the turbulence (and thus noise) in your system. Additionally, you can replace your fans with cooler ones like Papst or Panaflos.
The noisiest (or at least most annoying) components in a system tend to be the small fans, such as CPU fans and video card fans. You can replace those with passive heatsinks and then run larger (quieter) 80mm case fans to maintain enough airflow to keep things quiet.
For more information on keeping your system quiet, see the web site in my sig.
--kurt
Yep -- you can read about it here.
(shamelessly plugging my own site...so sue me)
--kurt