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Alan Cox: The Battle for the Desktop

richjones writes: "There's a new interview with Alan Cox up. I think he's right on the money with how Linux is going to spread into businesses, but he seems to think Internet applications are going to be big with consumers... I can't really see it... but he's Alan Cox, so he must know :)"

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  1. Linux *is* in the home...in stealth mode by K8Fan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's sneaking in via devices like the Tivo. Here's a solid, reliable utterly useful device with a great interface. Think of it as proof of concept that Linux can be used to make a computer for your Mom.

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  2. What Linux needs to win on the consumer desktop? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Like many geeks ... er programmers without any notion of business, Mr. Cox misses the ball on the proliferation of Linux into the consumer market. Linux will continue to be a niche product on the desktop until the day that AOL and the other major Internet-service providers (ISPs) provide an Internet client that runs on Linux. Why? The #1 consumer application -- the killer application, if you will -- is Internet connectivity.

    When will AOL provide an Internet client that allows me to dial into AOL?

  3. Re:Cox and the DMCA by ShaunC · · Score: 5, Insightful

    >I find it hard to believe that Cox believes that he's going to be arrested
    >in the US for posting security fixes

    And I don't think Dmitry Sklyarov believed he would be arrested in the US for writing software which ought to be under the "Accessibility" option in a Windows install.

    Shaun

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  4. Re:Of course by tb3 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Of course Internet Applications are going to be big with consumers.

    Well, that's one point of view; the Allan Cox and, dare I say it, Microsoft point of view. At the other end of the spectrum is the Apple 'digital hub' point of view, with iMovie, iDVD, iTunes, iPhoto, iToilet, iEtc. That kind of intense processing can't be done by a web app.

    Personally, I'm more inclined to the digital hub theory, because if all consumers wanted was web and email, WebTV would be a big hit by now. I guess time will tell.

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  5. Re:ok by Jeremi · · Score: 5, Insightful
    ...and there, ladies and gentleman, is one of the main problems with the open source movement, the computer industry, and society in general


    What, the inability to recognize humorous intent, even when the poster beats you about the face and neck with a smiley?

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  6. Re:bad editing of interview? by grepMeister · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I picked up on weirdness there too, but it was mostly the part where the edited final text of the interview says

    How militant are you about which licences people use for their software, and how they use them?
    People who are not following the (free software) licence are pirates, it's as simple as that.

    Sounds like a silly thing for ac to say, right? Well, this implies that the original, unedited response (to whatever question was _really_ asked) was

    People who are not following the licence are pirates, it's as simple as that.

    Which makes perfect sense, as he goes on to say

    It's no different if you take GPL code and don't give people the source code, or if you make copies of movies and sell them to people, it's the same thing. In terms of other software, it really depends on the people who write it. I don't think you have a right to dictate how somebody controls their own work, apart from the very, very basic standard you'd expect.

    Read: follow the bloody licence or yer a pirate. I mean, it's pretty clear what he's saying. I'd like to say that Hanlon's Razor ("Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity") applies here; this is rather difficult, because if it's stupidity, what about the relative cluefulness of the interviewer in the rest of the interview? If it's malice, why stop there? Why bother?

    I can think of some answers for a few of these questions, I suppose, but none make it too much clearer.

  7. Can Cox Solve the Great "Koan"? by stixnpics · · Score: 5, Insightful

    M$ owns the desktop until there a robust
    Office clone... My perfect anti-trust settlement
    would force M$ and all other companies to
    use standardized file formats and submit their
    extensions to a standards body.

    With MS file formats can be imported but never exported. OpenOffice comes close with most file
    formats but there are still companies that would
    never leave MS office because the have locked
    themselves into Excel macros and actually want
    to send *.exe files in Outlook, etc.

    Until very large companies see he benefits and
    just say no to proprietary formats owning THEIR
    data ten M$ will continue to reate new formats
    for media, e-commerce, distributed computing...
    We the people should at least own the right to
    2 or more vendors for a given application type.
    That's the intent of anti-trust law... Competition
    actually works to increase innovation and lower costs.

    Of course, free software produces dramatic costs
    decreases but it does limit the exchange of value
    that creates a robust market. I see Eric Ramond's
    Bazaar as a swap meet type of model... Great for
    bargains that only the buyer truly values but most
    cannot or will ot speculate in... To risky.

    Of course, big projects that support consulting
    models show some promise to establish some kind of
    professional market but it wold ot be the technolog marketplace we have today... and it's hard to tell
    the impacts of these models on the economy in the large. As Mel Brook's loved to say as the world's oldest man... "It's a nice living."