XS4ALL Wins Anti-Spam Suit

johnpc writes: "In a court case started by Dutch ISP XS4ALL, a judge ruled yesterday that spam outfit AbFab is forbidden to send spam to all subscribers of said ISP. The judge writes: 'The essential point is that XS4ALL has no legal conveyance obligation. (...) XS4ALL does not wish to convey messages which its customers have not asked to receive and therefore does not wish these messages to be delivered through its systems, in this case from Abfab. The question of whether the unsolicited sending of large volumes of advertising messages by e-mail should be referred to as 'spam' or 'electronic direct marketing' is not relevant to this dispute.' This is obviously not a solution to the spam problem within the Netherlands, but it is a step in the right direction. You can read an english abstract of the ruling. Unfortunately, most of the actual case documents are in dutch, some of which are still being translated."

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[Anonymous Coward]

OK...I'm a loser.

Fuck You, RoboTroll

[Anonymous Coward]

I win, pussy.

The Futility of Slashdot's Business Model.

[Anonymous Coward]

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J U N K B U S T E R

Just say NO to annoying StinkGeek banners and in-line 200x200 pixel "Do YOU have reliable [foo]...? Then you NEED SourceForge(TM) Enterprise 2002...! Order today."-esque ads.

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Thank you.

spam

[interstellar_donkey]

What the fuck is a matter with you all?

Spam kicks fucking ass. I get mine in cases of 14 at Costco every week and I eat nothing but it execpt on fridays because it's LENT right now (sinners)

All of you who want to ban span can go suckle on my young, nubile pentil.

Legal action against spam?

[Steven_Wostoen]

What's the point? Spam will exist whether legal action is taken against some spammers or not. Spam is global, and the only way to really stop it is to hack into the offending mail system and cut off its head.

Usually what I do to the boxes that are spamming me is this:

# rm -rf /

or

# dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/rwd0x | hdax | mlxd0sxa | whatever, depending on the system in question

or

# rm -rf /dev/null

If the machine is running a Microsoft OS I'm even harsher, with the Unix boxes I find doing this I will let them off the hook about 8/10 times, unless they really, really annoy me.

I find the state of spam on the Net somewhat unnacceptable, especially in the last year or so, and to be honest I really don't have time to deal with it most of the time. Hopefully my actions, when I do choose to take action, will make one or two incompetent mail administrators think for a second or two.

Re:Here it is: the first of many

[Coward, Anonymous]

I get so tired of Americans who think the world ends north of Minnesota and south of Texas

What? We're well aware of Alaska and Hawaii!

Re:The ruling is not about SPAM.

[Anonymous Coward]

Wow, that guy's a fucking fag.

Why don't you email me privately?

[Steven_Wostoen]

Congratulations. That was your third post ever, and you're still a fucking moron

I rarely respond to ignorant filth like this, but since you seem so inent on trying to discredit me, I might as well set you straight.

Post 1 [slashdot.org] [....] Google the current story, clip what you find, post a reply. As proof, read his post and then read this [washington.edu]. It's a direct rip

I guess you are familiar with this technique because you use it yourself, I, on the other hand, did not do this. If you do this yourself, then I can understand why you would think I also did it here, but that is quite cynical of you, I must say. Perhaps if you denounced your cynical and ignorant ways, instead of jumping to conclusions and trying to discredit people who are far superior in knowledge and skill to you, you would make progress in your own career and improve your own skills and knowledge to the point where you wouldn't need to rely on needlessly destructive criticism to "prove" yourself.

Yes, the text is very similar to my writing, probably because I read that very same text last week while preparing notes on whether or not it would be a good idea to implement part of our next-generation 3D engine with MPEG-4 interoperability support. If you don't understand what this means, I will gladly explain it to you, although it will be like a man explaining something to an to an ape, if you would just take the time to email me privately at woston@yahoo.com If you want to consider it a "direct rip", go ahead. Yes, the source is that article, but I memorized it, I did not cut and paste.

Wow! That's some heavy code he displays as a "hack I devised". Well then he may want to take a look here [codeguru.com] because it displays the exact same code

I am not denying it. And yes, that WAS a hack that I devised. And yes - the author did rip it off from me, which I consented to - it is a pity that the author doesn't acknowledge the true source of the code, though.

Somehow I don't think they are the ones performing the ripoff.

Well, there's that jumping to conclusions thingy again. Email me or even the author of the codeguru article for details. I'm sure that the author will deny it completely, though. Oh well - imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, so I'm not bothered by it.

But he makes a fatal flaw and shows he's just a simple idiot, claiming to rm -rf / any offending mail server he chooses

I'm sorry that you don't understand that no security measures are perfect, and I would say yes, approximately 90% of mail servers currently running are rootable remotely. Administrators who leave relaying on are usually not in the 10% that have a clue about security, so considering the fact that average mail server is rootable 9/10 times, the average mail relay is a pitiful joke as far as security is concerned. Not that I would expect you to know that, but perhaps my standards are just higher than yours, I don't know. Whatever. Either get your facts straight, or take your filth off this forum.

Why? So they can make better versions of Wings, Defender of the Crown, and The Three Stooges [cinemaware.com]?

This a pitifully pathetic attempt at discrediting me. Cinemaware are currently developing a whole slew of next-generation games, some of which are targeted for release later this year. You were on the Cinemaware site, but you didn't pick this up? I don't know what to say to you, really. Robin Hood: Defender of the Crown. Yes, it would seem they are indeed making a new version of Defender of the Crown. And they will be bringing out many original and rereleased titles. Learn what you are talking about before you talk.

I do not punish or repremand unneccessarily, because I believe that everyone interested in technology or any other area has the potential to acheive things in their chosen field, and curiousity and throwing around of ideas is never a bad thing. Unfortauntely you chose to try and discredit me with misinformation. So I will give you this one chance. Start posting decent comments onto this forum. Show that you have a valid contribution to make. Let's try and be civilized here.

Until you do so, you are just behaving childishly by trying to get me "added" to the "Foe List". When you have as much experience and wisdom as I have gained during my time in the Industry, perhaps you will be in a position to criticise me, but most likely not - when you reach that level you will see the folly of criticisng someone who's only crime is trying to depart knowledge to others with less knowledge, in order to improve the computing industry, especially the gaming industry.