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Gnome 2.0 Beta 2 Released
plastercast writes: "Following the release of GTK2, the second beta of gnome 2.0 is available. There are also release notes here. From Gnotices: 'The GNOME 2.0 Desktop is a greatly improved user environment for existing GNOME applications. Enhancements include anti-aliased text and first class internationalisation support, new accessibility features for disabled users, and many improvements throughout GNOME's highly regarded user interface.'"
I thought I read, "...new accessibility features for disabled users, and many improvements throughout GNOME's highly retarded user interface."
doh!
Knunov
Why do users with IDs under 100,000 or over 700,000 usually have the most worthwhile comments?
Gnome started for one reason and one reason only: RMS didn't agree with the KDE developers' interpretation of the GPL wrt the QT library. Gnome was set up with the intention of creating FUD to delay the uptake of the best thing to ever happen to desktop Linux and to bluff and bully the KDE crowd into getting the QT licencing changed.
Yes, you heard it right, Gnome was *deliberately* started to be "bickering, competing and incompatible" and to stop Linux having a single desktop standard if that standard was to be KDE.
The licence issue is *long* in the past. That out of the way, the Gnome crowd should have had to decency to either scrap Gnome completely (as did those working on the Harmony project, which was developing a GPL QT clone) so we could unite behind KDE or keep Gnome going as a low key longer-term hacker R&D project like Enlightenment. But no, we had to keep the ball rolling didn't we.
Why, given the adverse impact this has had on Linux and other target platforms?
NIH syndrome partly; a lot of big egos (many in the US) were beaten to the punch by a bunch of (mainly) German students.
And the fact that it relies on an existing library means that big egos who want to reinvent the universe can't develop their own object library; they have to do something useful.
But the main reason, irony of ironies, is that it is LGPL rather than KDE's GPL; yes folks, the desktop that began as *THE* GNU free desktop now boasts that it is more commercial-friendly. That's why Sun and HP are putting money into it. Guarantees success? Ah, look at CDE...
Gnome is an expensive, deliberately divisive vapourware project that should have been scrapped after the QT licence changes if the principals involved had any sense of decency or any *REAL* committment to free software. It continues because a bunch of pricks can't admit that they were wrong and continue to put their own giant egos ahead of the development of desktop Unix.
Meanwhile KDE continues to release in its usual methodical fashion while Gnome 2 stays as FUD. ("You may think KDE's kewl, but wait till you see Gnome 2!") Pardon me while I puke...
Gnome and the bastards who've hyped this piece of vapourware and tried to sabotage KDE for the last five years can go to Hell! Who needs Microsoft trying to pull the rug from under the free Unix's when you've got this lot! (Yes, that includes RMS, who is responsible for initiating and encouraging this debacle).
To paraphrase the end of RMS's infamous letter of "forgiveness" to the KDE developers: Go KDE!!!
I am into the copy and paste.
Does this mean a non-PhD student can install a Linux GUI now?!!?!?
Best on the left worst on the right
Windows 95, KDE, Windows 98, Mac OS X, BeOS, Mac os classic, Blackbox, Nextstep, Fvwm, mc, dos, vim, GNOME
Gnome needs full install RPMs. I'm on broadband and i refuse to download a file in 200 diffrent peices.
I want a 150meg RPM of Gnome2 and then i'll try it.
If you use Linux, please help development of Autopac
%s/beta 1/early hacked code/g
%s/beta 2/test code/g
%s/final/early alpha 1 stage/g
but the new features just aren't doin' it for me. i'm not handicapped and i don't plan to be any time soon. i don't speak hungarian, and will probably only start once i'm handicapped. and i'm comfortable enough with gdkxft hack to stick with it until a new install. gnome has MUCH more it needs to work on before catering to hungarian handicaps. and i'm sick of seeing that blurb time and time again. why not just say, "Gnome 2.0 released: so who cares?"
Watch out, because they're the saviors of Linux on the desktop! (Whatever that means, I'm running X with Blackbox, and it seems to work just fine without KDE.)
The minions of KDE would have you foolishly believe that Linux can't be successful without them. The fact is, it won't be successful with them. People won't switch to Linux just because there's a desktop that looks like Windows.. Haven't we learned that? I didn't see people switching so they could use fvwm!
Why will people flock to Linux and KDE, when they can run more applications, and the applications they actually use, on Microsoft Windows?
This kind of pissing contest is probably why so many open source projects never get farther than a trash can. Look at Sourceforge sometime. Look at all the dead projects. What happens is someone has a nice idea somewhere, and then hordes of ignorant zealots come in, flaming and harassing them.
People who insist you have to use KDE and that it is the savior of Linux, and will end world hunger, are no better than those who insist Gnome will cure cancer and cause significant hair regrowth in balding men.
And neither of them are better than a company in Redmond who would also have you believe that the only way is their way.
Will you explain
to an intelligent
but uninformed user
who uses macs
and sometimes windows
what is GNOME
what is KDE
which to use
or maybe both
are they friends?
are they enemies?
Don't they do
pretty similar things?
Aren't desktop separatists
hurting the cause?
since i am a man i gonna shit it out - but hey. didn't all mexicans come to world like this ?
Ever done a gnome up the butt? Theyre not just good for lawn ornaments you know.