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Dension DMP3 MP3 Player Reviewed

An Anonymous Coward writes: "MP3 Newswire has a review of the Dension DMP3, an MP3 player for the car that you purchase sans storage media. It sell for $249 and takes a standard IDE/ATA hard disk. With 100 GB selling for $200 these days the DMP3 gives you a ton of capacity for $450. The player itself is pretty basic, but I like the way they use a mobile rack frame to handle fast file transfers rather than use USB to spoonfeed tunes at a snails pace. Dension has also made the internal specs public including the playlist (.ply), logo (.lce), message (.msg) formats as well as the communications serial line protocol for adding third party devices like a mouse. Overall a neat toy, but most of all very reasonably priced for those who like to rip their tunes at the highest compression rates."

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  1. Re:What about HD wear? by zilym · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's been a year for me and my IBM Travelstar 12GN
    hard disk in my PJRC MP3 player used for playing
    music in my car. No problems with undue wear.

  2. It's A Jeep Thing by DeadBugs · · Score: 3, Interesting

    CD's skip all the time in my Jeep especially when I drive over parking blocks, I can only imagine what that kind of beating would do to a hard drive.

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  3. PJRC MP3 is similar for even less $$$ by zilym · · Score: 3, Informative

    Checkout the PJRC MP3 player at this link for
    a very similar player that costs less and is completely open source.

    I've been using my PJRC MP3 player for about a year now in my VW New
    Beetle. Great fun.

    1. Re:PJRC MP3 is similar for even less $$$ by zilym · · Score: 3, Informative

      I have it in the trunk jacked into the plug that would otherwise
      be used for a CD changer. I had to build a CD changer protocol
      interface board and it's been a real pain since VW doesn't
      document it (AFAIK). But now it works, and works well.
      Currently I'm running the protocol interface through my
      EZ-USB Protoboard, but now that I've got the protocol pretty well reverse engineered I
      think I'm gonna port the code to a cheap little PIC16F84
      or something.

  4. A car player that's too big for the car dash? by dan+the+person · · Score: 4, Informative

    If they shaved 20mm from the width it could have been installed in the Dash like a proper car stereo.

    Anyone got any experience running normall desktop drives in a car? The shock tolerences are way lower than a laptop drives which would seem to be the better choice for an in-car unit.

  5. What is with the temperature rating by Bishop · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This thing looked alright until I found this little spec:

    Operating temperature: 0 - +50 C
    So it is basically useless anywhere with a season called winter.
  6. Mp3 player like a PC? by NanoGator · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I like the idea of 'build your own MP3 player with standard parts.' This product is the start of that market. It would have value long after 100 gigs seems too small.

    I bet in a year or two, they'll have a variety of different screens and interfaces you can put on these doohickeys, and you can totally customize your player. I'd like to design my own interface for it, for example, to look like Apple's Aqua interface.

    Hmm... how long before these evolve into laptops? Heh

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  7. Ogg Vorbis by Spoing · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I have to ask, is there anything out there like this that supports Ogg Vorbis files?

    Yes, I know the whole floating point issue; the referece Ogg Vorbis decoder requires FP, and portables don't have FP hardware.

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  8. Apparently even girls can remember stuff! by stienman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Select the JukeBox playback mode beforehand, because you can only select songs here (no lists, or albums), and max. 16 songs can be pre-programmed. All you have to tell your guests is to turn the driving knob to search, press it to select and add to the program. This is something even girls can remember, or if not, boys will surly be happy to help

    Sorry, couldn't help sharing this 'tip' from their website. Could be a cultural thing - I'm interested to see if the tips have such useful information in the other language on their site.

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  9. affordable by asv108 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    What makes this player so nice is the fact that it is reasonably priced compared other offerings such as the RioCar or the Kenwood Music Keg, which is actually the same thing as a phatnoise phatbox, but phatnoise decided to supply the traditional head unit manufactures rather than compete with them.

    Overall, there are not a lot of reasonable offerings in a marketplace which shows a lot of promise. What I would like to see is a complete car package that offers:

    • Large Capacity with standard drives
    • Radio and CD player
    • The CD player doubles as a ripper
    • Wireless Access
    • Car 2 Car IM
    • Easily Navigable

    Imagine a car player with built in wireless access so you can easily add songs to your car but also trade songs with others, sort of like a p2p network on the road. Besides trading songs people could also IM each other, I think this would really catch on among teenagers, a demographic that tends to embrace IM, likes to cruise, and many teens tend to have run down cars with nice stereos. Obviously there are safety and security considerations to consider but I'm sure a compromise could be made.

    1. Re:affordable by BadlandZ · · Score: 3, Informative
      Blatent Flame Follows, please don't take it personally asv108, you obvisouly DO know more about this than me, but I had doubts about what you said

      What I would like to see is a complete car package that offers:
      * Large Capacity with standard drives

      Car Rio will take up to two standard laptop drives. That's up to 120G of storage using easily avalible IBM Travelstar or Fujitsu drives.

      * Radio and CD player

      Car Rio offers an radio tuner option (might want to get an antenna signal booster, reception is "average" and if your in a remote location, it can matter, most people it doesn't). As for the CD player, if your so sad you have your 40G to 120G full and STILL don't have the songs you want, CD player isn't going to help you.

      * The CD player doubles as a ripper

      Why? I'd rather rip and sort at home, FOR the drive, not WHILE driving. And at what speed? 16x laptop CDROM speed? I'd prefer my home 56x CDROM and Athlon XP 1700 for ripping than a 16x CDROM with a Strong Arm processer, thanks anyway. Your thinking of tech that's 5 years off (to be avaliable at a reasonable price commercially). I'll take the real, today alternitive thanks...

      * Wireless Access

      Abso-frigging-lutely! But I see hacking a 802.11b USB device into a Car Rio much more likely than a commercial head unit that has integreted wireless. War Driving anyone?

      * Car 2 Car IM

      And you thought talking on a Cell phone made for bad driving!!!! Shit, I would RATHER see this on a cell phone than in a car stereo ANY DAY. Yes it's there, sort of.... So why bother? In the US, it's lame, and we need to cetch up to the EU. But, anyway...

      If you really want it, at LEAST on a Cell phone, you can hold the phone in your hand while doing it, and still sort of hold on to the steering wheel. NO WAY do I want people to be trying to IM people from their stereo head unit! KEEP YOUR EYES ON THE ROAD. And as long as it's already in the phone, what's the point?!?!?

      * Easily Navigable

      Any unit is easy once you get use to it. There are no "standard ways" to navigate 60G's of MP3's in your car anyway... so it's more practice than progress... If I can simply have 10-20 play lists to pick from, that's MORE than enough. That's all I need for navigation.

      Now, I don't OWN a Car Rio (yet), and I sure don't work for them. But, given that it's Linux based, hackable, and been around longer, I'm strongly leaning towards that.

  10. Integer Vorbis decoder by mbrubeck · · Score: 3, Informative

    According to this vorbis-dev message, there is an integer vorbis implementation with source available.

  11. Re:Many players not compatible with CD-RW by swb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A buck each for CDR media? What?

    The last batch I bought was a spindlepack of 100 for $17 at Microcenter. Even Office Despot sells 100 packs for $34.

    Before you complain about the quality of cheap CDRs, I have been using these mostly in my car for the past year and I'm brutal with them. They get flung around the interior, sat on in the passenger seat, broiled in the summer sun, frozen in the winter, jammed 3-4 at a time into a single visor slot and I have yet to have one go bad.

    I'm sure they're not national archive quality, but for $0.17/ea who cares.

  12. Skipping... by wowbagger · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually, you'd be surprised. I used to have a 10 disk changer in the trunk, and it would skip at the drop of a hat. I've had no problems with my Neo, and it uses standard drives, not notebook drives.

    Remember, the mass of a hard disk head assembly is much less than the mass of a CD laser assembly, and the mass of your car itself provides damping to the system - you get long lasting but low accelerations, rather than the short (10g) shocks that kill hard disks. For normal cars, if you get a bump bad enough to bounce the heads, you probably have other, more expensive things to worry about.

    Now, if you are seriously offroading it, that would be different - I'd want a flash based solution for that. But, if you are seriously offroading it, you probably don't need to be listening to music....

  13. 80db s/n? lousy! by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 3, Interesting

    quite quite low for modern DACs. even cheapie clamshell cd based mp3 players.

    guess it won't sound worse than an OEM head unit; but they really should have been closer to 90 than 80. oh well.

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