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Mandrake 8.2 Available

Jester998 writes "Linux Mandrake 8.2 is out! Check out the official annoucement or head off to your closest mirror to grab the ISO images. The release is bound to be amazing, with the return of kernel-secure, a 65MB minimum install, hotplug device support, encrypted filesystems and more!"

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  1. SHhhhhh! by chmod · · Score: 4, Funny

    I was tinkering around and thought "Oh! MDK 8.2 should be available..." So I cruised over to /. and saw nothing there "Great!" methinks, I may be ahead of the flood.

    So I started downloading. @ ~350KBPS, my usual best rate... This has been slowing and I can't figure why other than..... Did that @#$%!%! post something on /.?

    Yup, story is posted.... sites are /.'ing

    *sigh*
    b

  2. I've been using the beta... by TechnoLust · · Score: 5, Informative
    and I love it! They greatest thing that I liked about it was the built-in support for those Alcatel USB DSL modems. I got stuck with one of those and had trouble getting it to work in other distros. I had to tweak a little to get it to work in the Beta, but it should be all good in the final version.

    Mandrake is a very good distro for the beginner and advanced user alike. I have tried several and this is definitely my favorite. This install is really great and warns you if you are installing anything that is a potential security risk. If you haven't tried it, what are you waiting for?

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  3. Get it from the Mandrake Club by Eric+Damron · · Score: 5, Informative

    You can also get your copy of Mandrake from the download site that is available to people belonging to the Mandrake club.

    Its a fast download and there is additional software available there. i.e. commercial packages.

    At $60.00 per year its a great value!

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  4. List of mirrors by belbo · · Score: 5, Informative
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    1. Re:List of mirrors by Cardhore · · Score: 5, Funny

      If you UUENCODE and then mirror (post on slashdot) the iso images, I'll mod you up even more!

  5. No...don't download the ISO's by 9632 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Buy them. Mandrake needs the cash.

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    1. Re:No...don't download the ISO's by Mr+Windows · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Better to download the ISOs and send the cash direct to Mandrake (eg by joining the Mandrake Linux Users Club). That way they'll see more of the cash, as you've cut out the middleman.

  6. Mirror of announcement by dallen · · Score: 5, Informative

    Since Mandrake is blocking the slashdot link in the story, here's a mirror.

    Mandrake Linux 8.2: Solid server, Friendly desktop.
    Altadena, CA - March 18th 2002 - MandrakeSoft is proud to introduce Mandrake Linux 8.2 as the most feature-rich, multi-purpose Linux operating system ever made available to the public. This new version of our flagship product combines the power and flexibility of a full-featured Linux server with the simplicity and elegance of well designed graphical user interfaces.

    Mandrake Linux 8.2 is the best "all-in-one" solution for saving time and money with personal computers: installation couldn't be easier with our world-famous graphical installer, and no post-configuration hassles means that your Mandrake system is immediately ready for work. Depending on your requirements, Mandrake 8.2 can be installed either as a full-featured & powerful Linux server, or as a highly productive personal workstation.

    New server features include the ability to use an encrypted filesystem for protecting sensitive data; "kernel-secure" adds important security features to the default Linux kernel; and an "Enterprise" kernel delivers SMP (Symmetric Multi Processing) and Hi-memory support (above 1024 MB) for high-end servers. Mandrake Linux 8.2 also introduces a quick and efficient way to set up printers and scanners; a new file sharing feature for easily sharing files and directories in a networked environment; and improved "hot-plug" support that lets users install new devices quickly and painlessly without having to reboot the system. A new remote desktop utility, RFBdrake, is extremely useful for controlling machines remotely within a LAN or securely through the Internet.

    New desktop features include a completely redesigned Mandrake Control Center that serves as a central location for Mandrake-specific tools and utilities, as well as many new configuration wizards. Desktop users will appreciate the task-oriented menus in GNOME and KDE which greatly simplify locating applications by categorizing them into common "tasks".
    MandrakeFirstTime is an easy-to-use wizard that helps setup a desktop environment (KDE, GNOME, etc.), choose a theme and configure email settings. DrakNet, the Internet connection and network utility, efficiently helps users configure all types of network connections, from common dial-up modems to DSL and cable connections.
    The reworked version of MSEC, a utility for configuring the security level of a machine (Standard, High, Highest, Paranoid) is more powerful than ever. Also included are the latest stable versions of KDE and GNOME which both offer some great new features and applications such as anti-aliased fonts and Evolution (an Outlook-like email client and personal information manager). StarOffice 6.0 is included with the ProSuite and PowerPack Editions.

    "With version 8.2, Mandrake Linux proves that it is the ultimate Linux experience. This new release is the result of our four year commitment to providing the best operating system ever. Mandrake Linux has long been the preferred Linux distribution for individuals, but Mandrake 8.2 marks a new step in our penetration of the corporate environment. The features and unparalleled ease of use make 8.2 an incredibly efficient and affordable alternative to UNIX and Windows 2000" said Jacques Le Marois, CEO of MandrakeSoft.

    Core System Components

    * Kernel 2.4.18
    * Improved Firewire support
    * Support for USB2, ECC memory, i830 DRM, ATA133, Geforce3
    * XFree86 4.2 provides 3D acceleration for many video cards previously only supported in 3.3.6
    * Glibc 2.2.4

    Software and Applications

    * Apache 1.3.23
    * PHP 4.1.2
    * MySQL 3.23.47
    * PostgreSQL 7.2
    * Sendmail 8.12.1
    * Postfix 20010228

    * Staroffice 6.0 is the latest version of the famous Office Suite that boasts integrated creativity and productivity tools, improved interoperability with Microsoft Office files, support for XML file formats, and improved international support.

    * Evolution 1.02 is a full-featured personal information manager and advanced E-mail client. Evolution provides the best features in its class.

    * KDE 2.2.2 (KDE 3.0 RC2 is also provided as an alternative desktop for users who enjoy the bleeding edge) and GNOME 1.4.1 -- Enjoy the latest versions of these popular desktop environments. KDE 2.2.2 includes a new print system which has been integrated with PrinterDrake; GNOME 1.4.1 includes Evolution to closely match the features and look of MS-Outlook.

    Mandrake Linux 8.2 is currently available for x86 processors, and will soon also be available for the PPC platform.

    To find out more about Mandrake Linux 8.2, please visit
    http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/82.php3

    Pre-orders are now being accepted for the Mandrake Linux 8.2 ProSuite and PowerPack Editions at
    http://www.MandrakeStore.com

    Or download your copy today at http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/ftp.php3

    Mandrake Club members are entitled to download proprietary drivers and commercial software for 8.2:
    http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/club/

    About MandrakeSoft

    MandrakeSoft provides a trusted interface between users of information technology and open source developers. The company offers its enterprise, government and educational customers a set of GNU Linux and Open-Source software and related services, and user-friendly and highly competitive information technologies. In addition, MandrakeSoft offers technologists committed to open software and courseware a trusted channel to offer their services.

    The company has technologists in over 20 countries, and is traded on Paris Euronext Marché Libre (Euroclear code: 4477.PA; Reuters code: MAKE.PA) and the US OTC market (stock symbol MDKFF). "Born on the Internet" in late 1998, MandrakeSoft established headquarters in the U.S.A., Montreal, England, Germany and France. Please visit the Web site, http://www.mandrakesoft.com for more information.

  7. Truly amazing product, truly amazing company... by joestar · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I tested one of the latest Mandrake Beta (currently downloading the final), and I have to admit Mandrake Linux, and in particular the 8.2 is really an amazing product. It comes with more features than I ever seen in all other Linux distros, it's now really rock solid, in 2 weeks, I only found 4 or 5 minor bugs in the beta4. It's really a great solution that can be deployed in enterprise, as well as for individual use. That's what I love in Mandrake: I run it for personal use on my laptop, and in my company on one hundred machine, and while it's the same product, the same CDs, it's not at all the same use! On my laptop I'm like a Windows user, in my company we use it like we used our SUN network before...

    I have to say I'm really impressed by how MandrakeSoft, a small and rather fragile company, is keeping on going its own way. They prefer doing more efforts in building and improving a dream OS everyday, keeping the right open source software way, and they try to avoid laying offs by requesting financial contributions of its users (see the Mandrake Club announcement). I don't know what this company is going to become in the next ten years but really, Mandrake Linux and MandrakeSoft are more exciting product and company than Red Hat or SuSE!

  8. EVERYONE!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Please wait five or six hours before downloading it. I am already downloading it now, and I don't want all you pushing in before I have fininshed. Thanks everyone!

  9. I still don't like their packaging by Isldeur · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The one thing I never liked (don't know if they still do it, but it was done this way in 8.1) is the way that they take large pakages (such as KDE) and put all of the files in non-standard (according to KDE, I suppose) directories. There's no /opt/kde2, everything is dispersed around the system... /usr/share/kde2/lib, etc...

    While I suppose that this is the "right" way to do it in one sense, it makes adding in other KDE software (whether compiling or what not) very difficult.

    You've got to do some nasty configure black-magic like ./configure --prefix=/usr/blah --bindir=blah blah. Does it have to be this way??

    1. Re:I still don't like their packaging by garett_spencley · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The reason Mandrake does it that way is to be 100% compatible with Redhat. The idea is that you can install any redhat rpm on a mandrake machine.

      I don't agree with this but that's their explanation anyway.

      I really wish they would drop this whole redhat compatibility thing and just follow the LSB.IMO the more distros that follow the LSB the better. It's the best way that I can see to be "compatible" with other distros.

      In the beginning Mandrake was RH with bug fixes, toys and compiled specifically for i586. But it has since grown in to much more than that. Ever since 7.0 they've broken away from that whole "redhat++" thing and I think it's time for them to break this compatibility issue and start following a standards base rather than acheiving compatibility by following another non-standard distro.

      It just doesn't make much sense to me especially if the idea is to make Linux more consistent which seems to be part of what Mandrake is about.

      It's really quite ironic.

      P.S: And you know what the worst part about it is? Mandrake still installs a /etc/redhat-release file.

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  10. P2P ISO Distribution by CaptCanuk · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So what's a big problem with Slashdotted ISO releases??? To quote MC Hammer: Hammer time. Those poor distros get nailed so hard that you can't get to an ISO at a reasonable speed for a week. And companies like Mandrake really need all the support they can get. It's great product and I'm sure they have to pay for massive bandwidth with ISO releases (even with all the mirrors from edu sites and the like). Looks like we need a p2p distribution system a la fasttrack network that allows multiple downloads from multiple hosts so that we can waterfall these ISO's. I just hope someday it will be implemented (and more importantly: used by the masses).

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    1. Re:P2P ISO Distribution by jilles · · Score: 4, Insightful

      We can do that for them. Just share it with your gnutella client and gnutella will do the rest. Just make sure that you have a client that supports some of the interesting new features (super peer, distributed downloads). Limewire does it all. If enough people share their isos, there'll be plenty of bandwidth

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  11. Mandrake in trouble by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For all those saying how nice a product this is and how you are downloading the ISO's as you type, something to consider...

    Right on Mandrake's site is what I would call a plea, and what otehrs would call begging for money.

    "Mandrake Linux distribution's short-term future is in jeopardy due to a simple factor: money"

    So perhaps just this once people can go out and buy some CD's to help support this company and make sure there is another release in the future.

    I saw someone else say this earlier, but it got modded up to 2 as Funny... I don't know why buting the CD's to support a company in financial trouble is funny though.

  12. YALD (Yet Another Linux Distribution) by Hercynium · · Score: 5, Informative

    OK, I'm already known for being a guy who tells it ilke it is.

    I've been a linux user since 1995, cutting my teeth on Slackware 2. Since then I have seen linux evolve, grow, change directions and broaden it's horizons.

    Here's the lowdown on Mandrake: I thoroughly believe that Mandrake Linux is the single most balanced distrubution available. I have used it for enterprise-scale web servers, for applications development, and even for an experimental wireless data-retrieval system in peru (the very complete internationalization of the Mandrake distro made it the ideal candidate, as well as it's ability to scale down MUCH smaller that I could ever get a red-hat system)

    It's also dandy as a day-to-day desktop workstation.

    However, It has it's caveats, like any distro. It's still too large. I'd like to see what you get with a 65 meg install. If it's got internationalization and a functional x-server as well as some basic ncurses-type config tools, I may end up switching from my own LFS system (weighing in at about 90 megs right now.) Also, like redhat, the configuration tools are a little too complex. If they decide to switch to ONE config manager and ONE only, that doesen't mess with your own customizations, I'll finally start using them. As it is, I don't install any of them, and I edit all files by hand, a-la slackware. However, if you're a newbie, all the drak* tools are VERY well done and perform in a fairly straightforward manner, as long as you're not getting jiggy with the .rc's.

    I must admit, I have a soft spot for Debian, especially as it's going to inherit the HURD, and apt is soooo schweet, but give rpm-drak a try. I hope you won't be disappointed.

    Other than that, well, I'd encourage anybody who believes in supporting an excellent distro to go out and buy a copy, or Subscribe. It's going to be worth the money.

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  13. Re:Cached articles?? by Aanallein · · Score: 5, Informative

    I don't think I've seen more than a handful of articles on slashdot in recent months that didn't have this request. Usually the posts are modded up quite highly as well.

    Now, assuming CmdrTaco and the other powers that be are not completely oblivious to what's happening here, they've seen the request. And despite a general theme of labeling all anti-micorosoft news as interesting, I assume they're somewhat open-minded as well.
    So I figure they've either looked into things, or are still doing so. The problems I can see are (1) huge increase of bandwidth for slashdot itself because of the cache, (2) legal problems, and (3) technical problems with actually doing this.
    Since Google is caching websites as well, I assume (2) and (3) should not be too much of a problem. Oh sure, it might take some time to really talk things through with lawyers and the like, and perhaps this is still happening, but eventually it shouldn't be a barrier. Likewise, slashdot employs some people who're tech-savvy enough that (3) shouldn't be a problem for very long as well.
    Bandwidth however definitely could be a problem. I imagine caching linked to pages, even if it's only the first page directly behind the link, would increase bandwidth use by 50%-150% (remember, only 75% of al statistics are made up on the spot) ;)
    Unfortunately bandwidth costs money. So if this is not something still in development (considering how long these requests have existed, I'd say that is slightly unlikely at this point), they've looked at it, and decided that it's not worth the money.
    Maybe, perhaps, they'd be willing to reconsider if the subscriptions are succesful enough, but I personally don't count on that ever happening.

    The other possibility is linking to the google cache of the linked to pages directly from the article. It's extra effort that's not worth the time since there are plenty of karma whores who will do the same almost as soon as the article's up anyway.

    But basically, I think there's really no use in continuing with these requests. Everything that can be said about it has been said more than once. The powers that be have undoubtedly seen it all. There's little more for us to do than wait and see, or most likely don't see.

  14. Re:Join Mandrake Club instead by Tsujigiri · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A noble sentiment, but if you want to really help then Join the Mandrake club.
    If you buy CD a lot of that money goes towards packaging distribution and marketing.


    True, but buying boxed editions has another positive effect. If lots of people buy the boxes, more stores will stock them, giving the distribution more visibility to people who have not used Linux yet, potentially getting more new users, producing more income. So there are benefits either way.

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