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How to Work Around Broken Port-80 Routing?

Dr. Zowie writes "My ISP places an opaque (intended to be transparent) web proxy between me and the rest of the world. It is causing me problems due to misconfiguration or misdesign. My question is twofold. On the micro level, what can I do in the short term to work around the broken routing (in the long term, I switch ISPs if it's not fixed)? On the macro level, what can we as a community do to prevent breakage of the net on a global scale by poorly designed routing hacks?"

Dr. Zowie continues: "I use a regional ISP with otherwise-very-good policies. However, they seem to be intercepting anything that comes from my home net on port 80, so that they can ``transparently'' cache web requests based on the payload of those packets. The proxy seems to work rather well in most cases: I never noticed it until I started using OpenNIC. Then I found that some web pages that should have resolved OK through the OpenNIC system failed even though routing on different ports worked OK.

"I did some experimentation using ``telnet'' on port 80 directly, and found that packets are being routed based only on the payload regardless of the original destination address: I can (for example) retrieve the Slashdot front page by using ``telnet www.google.com 80'' and asking for "http://www.slashdot.org http/1.1". The tech support folks seem to be stonewalling me: the main contact tells me that the behavior is "not broken" even though it clearly violates RFC 1812, the standard set of rules for IP routing.

"The practice of ``transparent'' proxy routing seems to be growing more widespread. It appears to break the internet standard in a way that works for most folks for now, but that breaks port 80 usage in general. Looking ahead, this breakage seems like a growing nightmare waiting to happen. At the very least, I expect more instances of my particular problem to appear as folks give up on the corporate hegemony of ICANN. More insidiously, transparent proxy routers break the layered nature of the internet protocol and restrict the flexibility that made it work in the first place. One would hope that such proxies would at least act like routers when the fancier proxying fails, but at least my ISP's doesn't. What about your ISP's?"

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  1. Use netcat... by samrolken · · Score: 4, Informative

    You can use netcat to route your own port 80 traffic. Simply get a good UNIX shell account, and configure your router to direct to that. It becomes a real version of what you would be trying to do. However, I would bitch like crazy if my ISP did anything like that to me. If I want to connect to port 80 on something, I would want to be connecting to such port 80. Any fiddling with it would sure make me drop that ISP in an instant.

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    samrolken
  2. Re:Use netcat... or someone else's proxy server by samrolken · · Score: 4, Informative

    I should have posted all this in one comment... oh well...

    You could also use a third party proxy server. You can find gobs of them here:

    http://tools.rosinstrument.com/proxy/

    and here:

    http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Intern et /Proxies/Free/?tc=1

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    samrolken
  3. Lots of ways to work around your ISPs. by BrookHarty · · Score: 5, Informative

    Proxy servers, They might not be cacheing 8080 or other Proxy ports. Check http://tools.rosinstrument.com/proxy/

    Bouncers - You set this program on an external server on a port thats not filtered. You just point your browser at this IP/port and your outside your filtered isp. Check www.freshmeat.net

    SSH, tunnel or route from an external box.

    Really, If you cant go through it, go around it, either with software or networking.
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    Well, if crime fighters fight crime and fire fighters fight fire, what do freedom fighters fight? They never mention that part to us, do they? - George Carlin

  4. corrections, suggestions, etc by MattW · · Score: 5, Informative
    First of all, the phrase "routing" is a misnomer. Web caching is something that happens on the application layer of the OSI model, layer 7, whereas "routing" refers to layer 3, which supplies IP routing for the TCP/IP protocol suite. What's broken is their caching, their cache server, or their proxying; pick a term.

    Second, there's a lot of ways around it which involve tunnelling.

    Tunnel to another box running a non-broken web cache. I used to tunnel my http traffic through ssh to my colocated boxes, which ran adzapper, and proxied through that.

    Tunnel at the IP layer by running any IP-in-IP encapsulation. If you have some version of windows, for example, you might convince someone with a server to run a PPTP server for you somewhere and you could tunnel through that. There are even Free PPTP Servers for Linux available to help.

    Find someone who runs a little proxier for their own net with socks, and bounce off their socks proxy. Someone you know no another ISP probably has Wingate or the like running, and if they allowed it (and on some older version, it will permit this by default), you could set your browsers SOCKS settings to bounce off their proxy server, and since SOCKS isn't on port 80, your ISP will probably ignore it.

    There are also a number of things you might discuss with your ISP to resolve the issue.

    Suggest that they switch to a less broken cache server. (Squid, anyone?)

    Suggest that they exempt you specifically from the cache server by telling it to ignore your ip address.

    Note that they have an obligation to make sure their caching software doesn't interfere with your browsing; so it will be necessary (and not cost-effective for them) for you to call for every problem you notice.

    Obviously, you'll need to probably speak to a whole number of supervisors, and probably eventually get transferred to a "real engineer", and they will probably hack in a fix (like exempting you only) rather than truly deal with the problem.

    If all else fails, then you may want to try issuing ultimatums, like, "If you can't fix this problem, then you can cancel my service." Tech support people are lazy, however, in some cases, and may just opt to cancel you. This is a harsh reality in the world of consumer bandwidth -- and it will be worse, soon, with bells closing their DSL lines to competition, meaning unless someone else builds a telephony infrastructure to you, you'll probably pick Cable vs 1 DSL provider, and if you don't like something at either of them, you're just out of luck.

  5. Re:Their way or the highway by Jerf · · Score: 4, Informative

    (As others suggested, if host resolution is your issue, you could run a local proxy on your 127.0.0.1 interface that converts host names into addresses.)

    Unfortunately, that's not a complete solution. Example: Compare my home page versus the IP address that hostname resolves to.

    Lots of servers do this.

  6. The behavior is correct. by xanthan · · Score: 5, Informative

    The web cache is exhibiting correct behavior. When a forward proxy cache (transparent or not) gets a request in the form of GET http://www.site.com/ http/1.1, it will use the www.site.com address instead regardless of what original dns name you went to (www.google.com in your example). In the transparent case where the GET statement looks more like GET /content.html http/1.1, it will use the original destination address.

    In other words, it's your client that's broken. See RFC 2616 for details.

    The unfortunate truth is that more often than not, sites simply don't set their cache controls correctly. They forget that caches don't exist just on the server side but that they exist on the client side as well. Section 13 of RFC 2616 explains how they work in great detail and it really should be mandatory reading for any site administrator.

    If you're still looking for more information on web caching, check out Content Delivery Networks by Scot Hull. It was just released and is available on Amazon. There is an enlightening section on web caching that should clearly explain why what you're seeing is in fact correct behavior.

    1. Re:The behavior is correct. by Dr.+Zowie · · Score: 4, Informative
      Yep, the cache is behaving correctly for a cache. The problem is that it's behaving incorrectly for a router, because I can't send the http: requests I want to the hosts I want to send them to.

      I'm not familiar enough with the ins and outs of cache design to know whether RFC2616 is designed primarily for ``transparent'' or ``selected'' proxies, but using a DNS resolution on the destination host seems to break the layered structure of the IP stack. In this case, packets that I've (layer 3) addressed to a specific host never get there, because (layer 4) they're being directed to another machine based on port, and the other machine (the cache) is routine them based on a name (layer 7) contained in the packet payload.

      That is acceptable behavior for a proxy to which I'm explicitly routing my http requests, but not for a router down which I'm sending port-80 IP packets.

  7. It's in the layers. by Bender+Unit+22 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Normally what you do is to do layer 4 switching but note that you can do do switching on layer 7 as well, which means you can have the switch do url based switching so that a part of the url determines that it should get switched. This requires much more power and is mostly done for server switching like load balancing.

    What happens in your case might be that they have placed a switch that can do at least layer 4 switching, between you and the internet.
    What then is done is that all port 80 requests coming from the clients side(you) are re-directed to the proxy which means that http requests on other ports will not be cached. Note that anonymous ftp can also be proxied.
    A "clever" proxy/switch solution can do ip-spoofing so the webserver gets your IP adr. and sends it back to you directly, but as there is a switch inbetween, it redirects the result to the proxy which then sends the result back to you.

    A way to avoid it is to get a gateway somewhere that can channel your http traffic, you could set your browser to use this gateway as a proxy on any port. The switch will most likely not act on the traffic coming on this port an pass it though.

    The easy way would be installing a proxy server on a box that you have access to on the outside and configure it so that it won't cache anything.