RedHat 7.3 beta (skipjack) is out

Just saw in Red Hat's FTP's - Redhat 7.3 (codename:skipjack) is available for download. There aren't lots of changes there, but you'll find that RedHat 7.3 comes with KDE 3.0 (rc3 is on this beta), you'll need to remove the Ximian Gnome before upgrade, and in general - read the release notes before testing this release. As always, don't try it on your main Linux partition, and use the mirrors. Annoucment is here (thanks to Linux Weekly News)

Comments

X.3 ??

[neo8750]

I always thought Red Hat did X.0 X.1 and then X.2 before going to back to X.0. Have they always released a X.3 ?

Re:X.3 ??

[jmorris42]

Ok, but PLEASE pass the word upline to make it a .3! RedHat 4.2 was rock solid, 5.2 was rock solid and so was 6.2. Haven't met anyone who thinks 7.2 is stable yet. Just yesterday I logged onto my laptop and had no icons along the left. Signed out and back on and they came back. All of the fifty some odd boxes that mere mortals use here on my site are still running 6.2 because of odd crap like that.

I had hoped to move them from 6.2 to 7.2 but it still isn't ready for end users, even with an errata CD that is fast approaching a 2 disc set. It is common knowledge that that anything labeled .0 is to be avoided on production machines so doing an 8.0 release would mean we would have to keep patching up 6.2 for another year.

Size?

[nabnerd]

does anyone know what size and install of 7.3 will be? 7.2 was over 1.3GB with everything i needed.

~nab

No Webmin!

[mlg9000]

Linuxconf breaks things. Redhat was right to take it out. The only problem is that they haven't really replaced it with anything. What they should include instead is Webmin. It might not have a command line interface but do you really need that functionality for a typical Redhat install? In my opinion it's by far the best Linux config tool around.

KDE 3.0 rc3

[AntiNorm]

Was Mandrake 8.2 supposed to come with this as well? I seem to recall reading somewhere that it (mdk 8.2) had both KDE 2.x and 3.0rc3 available. But I can't find 3.0rc3 anywhere on it.

Re:Where is CUPS?

[bero-rh]

CUPS 1.1.14 is included, and Qt, KDE and wine are compiled with libcups support.

How to remove Ximian Gnome ?

[motox]

Is there an automated and clean way to do it ?

What? No ISOs on RHN? Grrr.....

[weave]

I talked my boss into paying a few grand a year to redhat for their workgroup Redhat Network to 1) make my life easier and 2) to support the company and 3) priority download and ISO image downloads to paying customers.

So I gleefully logon to grab a set of beta ISOs and get some real value out of this subscription and what do I find as far as 7.3 beta goes? Jack. :-(

Come on Redhat...

When 7.3 final comes out, will it show up on rhn at the same time it goes on the public ftp site at least?

Version names

[omega9]

I'm sure most of you know that Red Hat's versions names are all related to each other in some way. Here's a breakdown starting from 7.0:

• 7.0-Guinness
  
• 7.0.90-Fisher
  Carrie Fisher and Alec Guiness were both cast emembers of Star Wars
  
• 7.0.91-Wolverine
  the fisher and wolverine are both members of the weazel family
  
• 7.1-Seawolf
  The U.S.S. Wolverine and U.S.S. Seawolf are both submarines
  
• 7.1.93-Roswell
  The Seawolf was the first sub powered by a liquid metal cooled reactor. It was completed exactly 10 years after the Roswell incident
  
• 7.1.94-Roswell (no name change)
  
• 7.2-Enigma
  Enigma is the name of a UFO museum in Roswell, NM
  
• 7.2.91-Skipjack (7.3 beta)
  Skipjack and Enigma are both encryption algorithms
  

Reference: Freshrpms

SSN Skipjack

[dpilot]

As someone else mentioned, the Skipjack is/was a submarine. It was the first nuclear submarine with an Albacore-type hull. In essence the first 'true' submarine that was truly optimized for underwater, and not a surface ship that temporarily sinks.

Also FYI, the Albacore has been made into a museum, and is the BEST submarine tour I've ever been on, better than any WWII boats, and better than the Nautilus. The WWII boats are too old and worn, and the Nautilus is all behind plexiglass, and they've torn it up too much putting stairs and such in. The albacore is a single level, pretty much accessable from stem to stern.

Former submarine nut, until someone told me in second grade that I would be too tall to be on one. Still, it got me to read 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea at age 9.

Re:Linuxconf

[Anonymous Coward]

Could someone explain what things did linuxconf break? Thanks.

Open Office: it'd be great to include it.

[dwheeler]

I'd like to see Open Office added to the Red Hat distribution; I don't see it noted in the announcement.

Yes, I know that Red Hat isn't _primarily_ marketing to desktops, but even system administrators and and others need to read and edit Word, PowerPoint, and Excel files. For example, there are FAR too many documents (including technical material) that are only available in those formats. KWord is quite ineffective at importing Word, and Abiword can only handle very simple Word documents. Gnumeric does a good job with Excel spreadsheets, but I know of no other open source program that can handle powerpoint files. If you don't want it to use up space on your hard drive, don't install Open Office, but for many it would be a BIG help to have Open Office ready-to-install on the CD's.

What about Enlightenment ?

[The_Lightman]

I just looked at the RPMs in Skipjack. Seems like you decided not to include enlightenment (0.16) in the next release. Now, that's kinda disappointing. I know for sure there are still a lot of ppl still using it.

I hope you'll include it in the next release.

Red Hat Network Issues

[OrenWolf]

I loved RHN for a long time. It really worked well for us. I, too, marketed Red Hat to the "Powers that Be" by telling them that the Red Hat Network would allow us to upgrade our hundred-odd boxen without even loggin in! Instant win for Redhat and Linux in our organization. Because of this, I expected to see Solaris and *BSD out within the next year...

Then it happened.

While updating the SNMP errata that came out a few weeks back, I noticed it took an inordinate amount of time to actually *do* the update. Curious as to why, I jumped into the box, only to find that my quite, happy litle server had X, Gnome, EsounD, and about 100 other X or GUI-based RPM's installed (our servers run with no X features, including the libs).

The Red Hat network provides *no* logs (that I could find) about what it has done, so it took me some time to figure out *why* the Red Hat network had decided to add 100 additional RPM's to my box. Then it hit me:

- The snmp errata also included ethereal, and ethereal-gnome, both X packages, even though they were *not* installed on the server itself!

Apparently, the rhn had decided to install the dependancies for ethereal (basically, performing an rpm -U instead of an rpm -F). I informed rhn feedback and support of the issue, but never actually heard back from them.

So, unfortunately, I have no choice but to cancel the 100 workgroup licenses we were purchasing. I can't risk this happening to our other servers randomly, especially when RH doesn't even appear to want to correct the issue.

*sigh*

Postfix *and* vsftp

[geirt]

Yes !!!

postfix-1.1.4-3.i386.rpm

vsftpd-1.0.1-4.i386.rpm

I must be dreaming, postfix and vsftp in the next redhat. I am going to upgrade my servers to 7.3 when it is ready. Yes, definitely, yes, going to upgrade ...