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Selling Your Wireless Traffic to Passers-By

An anonymous reader submitted a bit about a company called Joltage who wants to make it so that home and business users can make a few bucks by selling their excess bandwidth to people who just happen to be in the neighborhood. Besides the obvious security issues, and the serious lack of coverage once you get out of metropolitan areas, this could be seriously cool.

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  1. are you liable? by Kizzle · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What happens when someone starts looking up kiddie porn on your connection? Are you liable?

    1. Re:are you liable? by Raetsel · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I would hope that authorities would be able to discern that you -- even though it was your connection -- were not the cause.

      Since Joltage has an authentication & billing system in place, it would be relatively easy to associate a Joltage Provider (the person who's running that particular access point) with the Joltage User (the one who broke the law).

      It raises a good question though -- what kind of (browsing | usage) information is Joltage collecting on its' users? What exactly is their software capable of, and (going even further...) is it going to spy on the Joltage "Providers"?

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      "...America's great minds of today, teaching America's great minds of tomorrow. Poor bastards." -- A Beautiful Min
  2. AUP Problems by Raetsel · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Serious problem... Joltage wants to encourage people by paying them to extend their network. Many of the benefits, none of the work... nice idea.

    The problem is that most end-user DSL (and all consumer cablemodem that I've seen!) Acceptable Use Policies explicitly prohibit reselling the service!

    I'm signed up with a Washington State DSL ISP that has been incredible --

    1. They got me installed when Verizon said I wasn't in a servicable area
    2. I have their SO/HO level of service
    3. I can run servers
    4. I can host my own domain (two, actually!)
    5. I can NAT and firewall to my heart's content
    6. I don't have to deal with PPPoE (straight bridge config)
    7. I get 5 IPs...

      (Can you tell I like this company?)

    But even with all this freedom, I am still not allowed to re-sell access. I run an 802.11a access point, and it's NAT'd off on its' own -- anyone can connect... but I am contractually prohibited from profiting from it.

    Personally, I don't think Blarg would have kittens over this. They're not "like that." Object, yes... charge me more, yes. Call in the National Guard... no. However, I can see other ISPs (Comcast comes to mind, with their NAT inquisition) that will scream that this is the end of the world.

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    "...America's great minds of today, teaching America's great minds of tomorrow. Poor bastards." -- A Beautiful Min
  3. Security issues destroy ideas like this by treat · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The security issues of allowing random anonymous people access to an internet connection that is in your name are quite overwhelming. Consider the wide range of things that could be done that would bring the full force of the law down upon you. From fraud to illegal images to death threats against well-known individuals. The police would not accept as a defense that you allow people who you don't know access to your network. You will surely be arrested, which means you will probably lose your job - depending on your employer and of course whether you are released on bail. You might get off on a trial, especially if the search of your home and your computers turns up no evidence against you. If you're lucky, you will get your eqipment back in a timely fashion after your acquital. This is if you get acquited - the details of the case, how much the police/FBI want to get you, and whether they find anything else suspicious on your machines will decide this. You don't have to be charged with anything they find for it to be used as evidence against you - something as simple as an archive of every Phrack - or even a single issue - would weigh heavily against you.

    Until this issue is worked out, it does not make sense to make a wireless internet-connected network publicly accessible if you are just an individual.