Slashdot Mirror
Iomega's New Unix (Optional) NAS Appliance
Tora writes: "Zip disk maker Iomega
has released a sexy new 1U Network Attached
Storage server
with an option
for either Unix or Microsoft Windows as the OS.
Their previous NAS offering was Windows-only; it is nice to see
both OS options available, although they do not yet have pricing up
for the Windows version."
I'm sick of being tied into a MS-centric NAS box. :)
You're paying royalties to Microsoft through the NAS manufacturer, since you're technically getting an custom OEM version of Windows 2000 to run the machine. Saving a little cash just makes it even sweeter.
Sorry Bill, I don't want to have to line your pocket on _every_ product I purchase.
Let's face it, home users are going to start needing additional space outside of their desktop PC's in a few years. Music, video, and information will eventually overflow their older PC's, and many people won't want to buy a new PC, yet they'll want 24 hour access to their data.
:-).
Anyway...my point, and I do have one, is this: The company that can make an affordable ($200) NAS and make it SIMPLE for ANYONE to use, will succeed. THe cheapest out there (last time I checked) is @$400, and is a paltry 40GB. Sell 100 GB of storage for $200 or less, and people will buy it. I rolled my own NAS for not much more than the cost of a new HDD, but I have mad skillz that the average consumer doesn't (ability to scrounge and build a PC for close to nothing)
First, head to pricewatch.com.
Pick up two 160 GB drives for about $200 each, an Athlon 1.4 GHz mainboard combo for about $140, a full-tower case with redundant power supplies for about $200 (or a *U rack unit), an Intel 10/100 ethernet card for $20, and the rest of the pieces/parts can be had for less than $100 with frugal shopping. Total cost for twice the storage of Iomega's lowest-end offering (which is $2000): about $860. With the remaining money you're saving, pick up a solid tape drive and practice religious backups (or step up to SCSI). I'm sorry, but I'm tired of paying a premium for "brand name" crap. I have the feeling a lot of other folks on this list are, too. Heck, for the Windows guys, spend the remaining money on a full version of your favorite Redmond OS. Rinse, lather, repeat -- and be satisfied with the fruits of your labors.
Even superheroes once were losers
They are light on the details. What speed drives? What kind of internal controller? Anything in this box redundant or is all my storage gone when a power supply fails? Things like that are important, and they don't seem to mention it when I looked. I also question buying something like this from someone that makes nothing else even close.
We use the Compaq TaskSmart 2400N NAS. Yes, it runs Win2K but it's rock solid and very good. It's built around a normal Compaq server so we already have spares. It can do up to 10TB in Cluster config. It uses all standard Compaq drives and parts which can be shared among other systems. Plus, you can manage it from Insight Manager. It also exports out to NFS for UNIX clients.
It seems anyone that needed 1/2 TB on a NAS would already have other servers and would be better served going with their vendor's answer, assuming they had a good one.
I was looking at getting a NAS device for a new project. I ruled out IDE based, mainly for performance reasons. I looked at Dell's (Windows based) which are exactly the same as their servers except they cost (literally) thousands more, for less of a configuration. I was not about to go out and pay 3k for "managment" software (especially when every system that was going to access was Linux based, it seemed kind of odd). I ended up just getting a decked out system for less money, installed Linux on it and am some what happy. I would like to manage it like an appliance, complete with a web and/or java interface. I couldn't find a existing Linux distro for such a thing (striped down fit in like 20mb, or even CD based). If something like that existed, people could chose the HW they want (be it Pentium w/ 16mb of ram or Dual Athlon 1ghz with HW RAID), instead of being forced to pay thousands for pretty simple software.
Raidzone (www.raidzone.com) also makes Linux-based NAS products. They're (for the obvious reasons) many times less expensive than NetApp, and easier to customize the configuration (just add new rpms) but aren't nearly as slick in a few regards.
Snapshots are the biggest way in which NetApp is much better. Raidzone supports it's own "snapshots", but it implements them with a series of gigantic find-based cron scripts that can (on a large filesystem) bring your NAS to it's knees, and it maintains them more like incremental backups than NetApp's snapshot concept.
Basically, each snapshot 'bucket' contains -only- files that have changed in the last time increment. If you delete a file that hasn't been changed in longer than the longest snapshot bucket, you lose. I'm not real thrilled with this, but don't have a better linux snapshot implementation without messing with the hardware or the kernel. Anyone know of anything more NetApp-like?
[My opinions are my own and no one else's]