Slashdot Mirror


Camera Meets Speedometer, Travel Across Country Together

BluKnight writes "This guy hacked his camera to his speedometer, and ended up taking a picture EVERY MILE during a trip across the US. Kodak has the results (Flash in use!) of this venture. For my next hack, I'm going to interface to my digital camera to take a picture every time I blink -- I'll never miss what I'm seeing again!" The best part is the fact that he stopped every 36 miles to swap film rolls. Sad thing is, I understand this. (I still love film) The interactive map is -really- well done, but requires flash...

100 of 280 comments (clear)

  1. I really hate to inform you of this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    But that's an ODOMETER. Try again, okay?

    1. Re:I really hate to inform you of this... by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 2

      Odometer? What's it smell, like?

      --
      "Flyin' in just a sweet place,
      Never been known to fail..."
  2. speedometer? by bellings · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Wouldn't it have been easier to hook the camera to his odometer, instead of the speedometer?

    --
    Slashdot is jumping the shark. I'm just driving the boat.
    1. Re:speedometer? by zmooc · · Score: 2

      I was in .au in februari and every once in a while there are `speedochecks' on the motorway. Just a sign every kilometer for 5 kms saying 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5. Have you ever tried to drive 1km/h in a car? Impossible! Especially on the motorway:P

      --
      0x or or snor perron?!
    2. Re:speedometer? by mazachan · · Score: 2, Informative

      I believe the speedometer and the odometer are hooked up on the same wire, which makes sense if you think about it..

    3. Re:speedometer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Even worse, I _did_ read it as odometer. And all I could see in my mind was a camera actually focused on the odometer -- ie. the pictures would just show:
      0000001
      0000002
      0000003
      ...
      Must. Leave. Work. Now. Going. Crazy.

    4. Re:speedometer? by Masem · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I'm sure that they meant odometer (the dial that measures distance the car travels), but there's no reason that you can't build a program that integrates a real-time reading from the speedometer (the dial that indicates your speed) to get at distance, and thus to count off every mile. In fact, assuming that the speedometer signal is electronic in nature (such as 0 speed = 0 mV, 120 mph = 5mV) it's probably easier to grab this value than to mechanically grab the odometer value.

      --
      "Pinky, you've left the lens cap of your mind on again." - P&TB
      "I can see my house from here!" - ST:
    5. Re:speedometer? by czardonic · · Score: 2, Funny

      Not to pick nits, but it would have been much clearer if this had read odometer instead of speedometer.

      Totally. I had no idea what the story was about.

      --
      Takahashi Rumiko made beats! DON, taku, DON, taku. . .
    6. Re:speedometer? by marauder · · Score: 2, Informative

      They've fixed them, or at least some of them. The F3 now has an odometer check length. But "speedometer" check length actually works better for their purposes, because the reason the check lengths are there is to give you something to do every so often so you don't fall asleep and die. And it certainly seemed to get *you* thinking, even if you didn't count off the clicks :-)

    7. Re:speedometer? by FyRE666 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think you'll find the speedo/odo assembly receives pulses from the gearbox output shaft. So in fact the odometer is being driven more directly than the speedometer (which uses the pulses/time to display the speed).

      At least that was the case for truck tachograph units when I worked on them a long long time ago...

    8. Re:speedometer? by laserjet · · Score: 2

      alternatively, you could not be a retard and drive 60 mph and see if it takes you one minute to drive one mile...

      --
      Moon Macrosystems. Sun's biggest competitor.
    9. Re:speedometer? by Xerithane · · Score: 2

      Here's a great system. It's really not difficult.

      You set your cruise control for, lets say, 60/h on the motorway. You start a stop watch.

      See how much time elapsed since you started the speedo check, till when you ended.

      It should be close to 5 minutes. Deviation shows that you have an improperly calibrated speedometer. You can also divide this down so that you make the trip comfortable for traffic conditions. Travel for 30km/h for a time of 10 minutes, or 120 km/h for 2.5 minutes. It works out quite well, that no matter how fast you are actually going through the speedo checkpoints that you can figure out how fucked your speedo is. I suppose that when they put those signs up people actually knew about math. And those were the good ol' days.

      --
      Dacels Jewelers can't be trusted.
    10. Re:speedometer? by zmooc · · Score: 2
      I suppose that when they put those signs up people actually knew about math. And those were the good ol' days.

      Well I think when they put those signs up they actually meant odochecks so you don't need math, a stopwatch and cruisecontrol:P That was the whole point of my comment anyway.

      --
      0x or or snor perron?!
  3. I can hear them now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet?

  4. Get the Crossover Plugin by terrymr · · Score: 2

    It Works great on this site :-)

  5. Stopped? by RollingThunder · · Score: 2
    I got to where I could do all that in less than a minute, while steering with my kneecap."


    And we thought people talking on a cell phone were hazardous.... Doesn't Kodak make an extended roll for professionals, too? I'd think a 200 frame magazine would have been a lot handier, although a pain to change out compared to a standard roll.
    1. Re:Stopped? by psavo · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well.. it's not Kodak that makes the, but maker of camera.
      For example Nikon has 250 & 750 frame (check them out -- huge) 'backs'. You need to take back from your camera and change it.

      Of course you need lots of film for that too. Pretty much standard is 100ft (30.5m) or 55ft (17m) rolls (with these you can fill standard 36 exposure canisters). That is enough for about 800 exposures.

      --
      fucktard is a tenderhearted description
  6. getting out more often by Alien54 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Perople who do not get out enough rarely have any notion as to just how $%#$&^@ huge the country is.

    Even if you spent an evening just looking at skimming through these, you could get an idea.

    It used to be that people often lived their whole lives within walking distance of their home village. You can easily have the equivalent of that today, with close knit communities of other types.

    --
    "It is a greater offense to steal men's labor, than their clothes"
  7. Damn... by dimator · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They were beautiful, weren't they?

    --
    python -c "x='python -c %sx=%s; print x%%(chr(34),repr(x),chr(34))%s'; print x%(chr(34),repr(x),chr(34))"
    1. Re:Damn... by Mr.Intel · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm glad they didn't edit those out like so many movies have. It's a shame to attempt to erase from media what should be an icon of human endeavor.

      --
      ASCII tastes bad dude.
      Binary it is then.
    2. Re:Damn... by realdpk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I have to agree with the AC - on that they weren't beautiful. They're big ugly boxes that happened to be very tall.

      (However, I'm not glad they're gone, I don't particularly care about them. It's sad that lives were lost but buildings on the other end of the country from me are another story. -1, here I come.)

    3. Re:Damn... by piecewise · · Score: 2

      I'd have to disagree. They don't look the best in these images... but up close they're amazing buildings (or, they were). And when the sun is shining and the sky is blue, they almost turn white clear. Then they REALLY shine and look beautiful.

      I agree though that I'm glad they're not edited out... I'm not ashamed of how unified we became. That's why I agree with the "Never Forget" line... Why should we? I certainly don't want to.

      --
      The next comment I write will be ready soon, but subscribers can beat the rush and see it early!
  8. Reminds me of Confluence.org by Viking+Coder · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Check out Confluence, which is another cool project involving digital images and geographic locations. Their goal is to take a photo at every confluence point - an intersection of integer longitude and latitude points. Very fun, very cool.

    This is a cool map, showing where they have photos, and is fully navigable.

    --
    Education is the silver bullet.
    1. Re:Reminds me of Confluence.org by suso · · Score: 2

      Thanks for posting this link. I find this confluence project very interesting.

    2. Re:Reminds me of Confluence.org by CokeBear · · Score: 2

      Thanks for thanking the guy who thanked the guy who posted the link. I'll bet everyone on slashdot finds your expression of gratitude very Insightful

      --
      Reality has a liberal bias
    3. Re:Reminds me of Confluence.org by LadyLucky · · Score: 2

      Heh,
      you have to watch out for that Huge image of the entire world. They werent joking about it being huge. I only have 256Mb RAM, and it ran out rather quickly.

      --
      dominionrd.blogspot.com - Restaurants on
  9. Re:ummm... DIGITAL camera? by Eimi+Metamorphoumai · · Score: 2

    It's on the Kodak website. Somehow I don't think they would have found it nearly so cool with a digital camera instead of real film.

    --

    Visit me on #weirdness on the Galaxynet.

  10. Driving across the US by seanadams.com · · Score: 2

    I had some time on my hands once, so I drove from San Jose to Portland to New York to San Diego and then back home. Oh yeah - and a quick visit to Tijuana, for horse tacos or whatever they put in them. Total miles 7K+ in 10 days (I stayed at each stop for a day or two - other than that it was solid driving).

    I'll tell you folks, there ain't that much to see from behind the wheel of a car. It's mostly grass.
    Anyone who thinks the US is overpopulated has probably never left their home city.

    1. Re:Driving across the US by coyote-san · · Score: 2

      You think that's bad, I went Denver, Calgary, Vancouver (the scenic way through Jasper, not straight across), then down to Portland and back in about the same time.

      Since I was only in Calgary overnight, I had driven over 3000 miles with relatively little vehicular traffic between Denver and Calgary. (I highly recommend I-15 in southern Montana in a sports car.) Once I left Banff, I started filling up at every station because there was no guarantee that the next station was open, that the road wasn't closed due to a landslide or avalanche, etc.

      I'm a glutton for punishment - this was actually a test run for a drive to Alaska in a non-RV - but I agree that the people who stay in cities have no idea of just how empty much of this continent is. Or just how large the large cities are - it can take hours to cross Vancouver or Seattle even if traffic is going at full speed.

      --
      For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong. -- H L Mencken
  11. Re:go digital by Chazmati · · Score: 2

    Or around 100, depending on your math skills.

  12. Cool concept by ka9dgx · · Score: 2
    This is a cool concept, thought it was cool when I saw it a before, and had the sigh of discontent when the only picture that I knew the area of, instead of hitting the gates of Rose-Hulman, he instead managed to get the gas station in front of the "barn".

    The barn is supposedly where the Last IBM Mainframe ever used at Rose was housed, according to urban legend circa 1982.

    --Mike--

  13. Fishy by Brian+Kendig · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There's something fishy with the pictures. Many of them are just *too* picturesque to be believable. Look at pictures 613 and 614, for example; they're both ends of the same service station! The same jeep is even in both pictures! Is this service station really a mile long?

    1. Re:Fishy by OneFix · · Score: 2

      Just a guess, but I think it's valid to think that this guy actually stopped!!! :)

      Umh, I don't dee hat you're talking about, but if you see the gas station twice, maybe he went there in the afternoon and stayed in a hotel room close to that station and then came back there in the morning to get gas?

      You notice that all of the shots are during the daylight hours...the photos wouldn't have turned out too well otherwise :)

    2. Re:Fishy by Safety+Cap · · Score: 2
      There's something fishy with the pictures.
      I agree - they look "staged." For example, picture 3294 is an exact, framed shot of the Transamerica Building. I also notice that his camera wasn't aimed in the direction he drove. If so, he would've seen the UFOs, flying cows and other hallucinations during that drive from Kansas City to Denver (Highway 70 is as straight as an arrow form horizon to horizon and there ain't jack sh*t from end to end) - shots 1314 to about 1965. Strange that he gets interesting shots of houses 'n stuff, when supposedly he's zooming by.

      I have to admit that if I were taking pictures on a cross-country jaunt, I wouldn't mount said camera to take snaps out the front windscreen, otherwise I'd get many picturesque shots of the splattered bugs, burger wrappers on the dash, the Thomas Map and all the other nasty bits that live up there.

      Question: If you're going 70-100 mph (as you are wont to do in that godforsaken wasteland), and you have your camera set to maximum shutter speed with very fast film (1000 speed), will your pictures be blurred beyond recognition if your camera pointed out the side window?

      --
      Yeah, right.
    3. Re:Fishy by Mr.Intel · · Score: 3, Informative

      Look at pictures 613 and 614, for example; they're both ends of the same service station! The same jeep is even in both pictures! Is this service station really a mile long?

      OK, first there is no jeep. Second, 612 is grass/sky, 613 is a service stations and 614 is grass/sky

      --
      ASCII tastes bad dude.
      Binary it is then.
    4. Re:Fishy by curunir · · Score: 2

      However on most cameras speeds over about 1/200th of a second are not "real"

      This is only true for film cameras as they actually have shutters. Digital cameras (well, the ones I've owned at least) don't have shutters. They usually play a little shutter sound until you find the menu to turn that off.

      --
      "Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos!"
    5. Re:Fishy by ryanwright · · Score: 2

      Question: If you're going 70-100 mph (as you are wont to do in that godforsaken wasteland), and you have your camera set to maximum shutter speed with very fast film (1000 speed), will your pictures be blurred beyond recognition if your camera pointed out the side window?

      Not with a professional camera... My wife has a very nice professional grade 35mm camera. She took some pictures of me sitting in my ultralight with the engine running & prop spinning. In every shot, the prop looks perfectly still.

      Now I know damn well that prop was spinning a lot faster as far as the film was concerned than looking out the side of a car at 70+mph...

      --
      -Ryan, with the unoriginal sig
    6. Re:Fishy by stripes · · Score: 2
      You're off by 3600 seconds...
      [...]
      or: 0.10267 feet in 1/1000th second. :-P

      Crap, shame I can't mod that up since I already posted :-)

      0.1 feet is a lot for things close to the camera, but I bet it would be decent for things some reasonable distance away, and since you are likely to be using hyperfocal focausing anyway stuff close to you will be blurry even if it is still. With a 28mm lens at f/8 focusing to 12.8559... feet gets you everything from 6.45 feet to 1799.14 feet in focus (assuming the normal circle of confusion size for 35mm film).

    7. Re:Fishy by stripes · · Score: 2
      This is only true for film cameras as they actually have shutters. Digital cameras (well, the ones I've owned at least) don't have shutters. They usually play a little shutter sound until you find the menu to turn that off.

      Most digital cameras have shutters, but they have the "fake sound" because what people here is normally not the shutter sound but the mirror slap (on an SLR), and the film wind.

      The shutter on my digital ELPH is quite quiet, but you can hear it. The shutter on my EOS-D30 is also pretty quiet, but since it is an SLR you hear the mirror slap froma fair distance (farther then from my ELAN 7 which has a very quier mirror slap, and rubberised parts on the film transport so they are very quiet...and I susspect wear faster so Canon can upsell you in 4 years rather then 10...).

      The shutter in some digital cameras is a leaf shutter. I don't know a huge amount about them, but they seem to have far lower top speeds (like 1/800th, or 1/1000th), but allow flash sync for a larger range of speeds. However you can only get the higher speeds at smaller apeture as the apeture is really the shutter (I think). I know they are also very common on medimum format cameras.

      The CCDs on most digital cameras can not discharge except in the dark, but some can stop accumulating light ("eletronic shutter"). The CCD in the EOS-1D is like that, which is how it gets a 1/500th of a second sync and 1/16000th max speed (the EOS-1D is almost exactly like it's film counterpart the EOS-1V which gets 1/250th and 1/8000th). I do think there are a very very few CCDs that can use only an eletronic shutter, but I'm not sure.

      Anyway disable the shutter beep, hold your camera to your ear and take a shot. I bet you hear a focus motor run and then a faint click of the shutter.

      If there is a camera store close by try the same with a rangefinder (one without autowind), or an EOS-1RS with the CF set that makes it not advance film (for single shots in a classical concert or other enforced quiet zones).

    8. Re:Fishy by Brian+Kendig · · Score: 2

      Huh. Look at the hi-res QuickTime movie on the site. Each frame is numbered; the pictures I meant are in fact 613 and 614.

      So maybe there's a conspiracy going on...

    9. Re: Fishy by Brian+Kendig · · Score: 2

      Those two frames in the high-res QuickTime movie on the site are numbered 613 and 614.

      I wonder where the extra hundred frames came from?

  14. Ever drive across US? by nolife · · Score: 2

    Have you ever driven across the US? I did it four times when I was in the military. The time I drove the speed limited 24ft U-Haul across was not very fun but the other three were. I truely enjoyed the experience. You DO NOT need an SUV or minivan to have a good time, even with a family of four. Most of my fun was because I enjoyed driving my car, a 91 Mustang GT. Nothing great but was relatively new at the time and very well suited for a long highway battle, very stable, no struggling up the hills, not taken by the wind and only 2k rpm's at 80mph.

    --
    Bad boys rape our young girls but Violet gives willingly.
    1. Re:Ever drive across US? by athakur999 · · Score: 2

      You made a family of four cram into a Mustang for a cross country trip?

      I hope the two in the back were kids :)

      --
      "People that quote themselves in their signatures bother me" - athakur999
    2. Re:Ever drive across US? by nolife · · Score: 2

      My wife in front and the kids in booster seats in the back. We were moving from Seattle to Honolulu with a 3 month school in South Carolina. My house got packed up and everything shipped from Seattle. We had to fill the hatch with everything we would need from March (cold) until the early July (Hot)and make the trip from Seattle to San Francisco via South Carolina. The time was split between relatives and motels. The whole evolution went perfect and we all enjoyed it. You don't have to have a suv/minivan to travel. I still have the Mustang (160k+ miles)and also have a minivan and a suv too..

      --
      Bad boys rape our young girls but Violet gives willingly.
  15. I always wondered... by tswinzig · · Score: 3, Funny

    The best part is the fact that he stopped every 36 miles to swap film rolls.

    So that's who's still buying film.

    --

    "And like that ... he's gone."
    1. Re:I always wondered... by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 3, Interesting

      ya but if he did that - kodak would never had paid for the trip, his portfolio wouldnt be advertised on kodaks website - and he wouldnt have been paid a fee to display all that pics on kodak.com.

      he would have just been a kook who had hacked his digital cam to snap a shot at every turn of the odometer.

      sorry kodak - but this does not inspire me to go out and buy more film and take more pictures. unless you have a lot of beautiful naked girls that would like me to photograph them....

      of course now that this is live on slashdot - all the kodak marketing types are sitting back rubbing their hand in glee when they see the hits /. effect brings em. too bad they will be hoping in vein for the bonus when the sales figures come in and they cant spot a good conversion rate.

    2. Re:I always wondered... by elefantstn · · Score: 2
      sorry kodak - but this does not inspire me to go out and buy more film and take more pictures. unless you have a lot of beautiful naked girls that would like me to photograph them....


      If this isn't typical /., I don't know what is. "Photography is boring. Except pr0n, obviously."
      --
      If it ain't broke, you need more software.
  16. Clearly not geography majors... by Stiletto · · Score: 2


    Notice on the "slide show" they have Arizona labled "COLORADO".

    You'd think a site about photographing the various states of the USA, that they could get the state names right.

    1. Re:Clearly not geography majors... by daeley · · Score: 4, Funny

      What's the big deal? Everything between California and New York is pretty much the same thing. ;-D

      --
      I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate.
  17. Why not do this for a city? by ka9dgx · · Score: 2
    Why not take pictures of every building and lot in a City? It would be cheap, and way cool to look back on in a few years. I'm considering doing a small section of Chicago (a VERY small section of Chicago).

    I could then put in some coordinates from the GPS, and viola, a cool project.

    --Mike--

    1. Re:Why not do this for a city? by sleeeper · · Score: 2, Interesting
      The City of Olympia, Washington did this in 1937 (maybe a Depression jobs program?). I got the photo of my house last week, which will help us restore our 1926 bungelow to its original condition.

      Every city should do this every 20 years; it's great when you are trying to learn about the historyof your community.

    2. Re:Why not do this for a city? by ka9dgx · · Score: 2
      I have a 183 degree lens, and it's not that good, when you do this, your detail gets pushed down to really bad levels. 4 separate wide angles are better, IMHO.

      --Mike--

  18. Dammit! by Saint+Aardvark · · Score: 2
    I wanted to do something like this...kudos to the guy for actually doing it.

    A couple years ago my now-wife and I took a road trip in a 19-foot van named MURR! (that was really its name). We took two months, just about, and drove down from Vancouver, BC down to San Diego, across to Texas and New Orleans, up through Kentucky (Hi Amelie!), Ohio and Milwaukee (Hi Melissa!), then to Ontario, across the northern States again, up through Saskatchewan, Alberta and BC...home again, jiggity-jog. All told, 20,700 km (speak metric, American dogs!).

    My idea was to get a Super-8 camera and a timer. I calculated that one frame every minute would, over two months, add up to about an hour of footage, which seemed the perfect length for a documentary-ish sort of thing -- narration, music, whatnot.

    It was during the leadup to takeoff that I discovered that a camera that could do this wouldn't come cheap -- I think the one place I checked said >$1k, which scared the pants off me. The van and everything else cost a lot more than I'd expected, and as it was we ended up coming back with something like $50 in our pocket (which to my mind means our timing was perfect).

    What I would do now is get a laptop and a webcam. I work at a small ISP, and one of our customers is a construction company that has a webcam and a FreeBSD box set up to take time-lapse photography of their latest construction site. The pix and movies are really neat, and that would have been a much easier and cheaper solution.

    Crap...just realized that the worst part of me sitting here and reminiscing like this is that the guy's site is sure to be slashdotted now...oh well, I'll wait 'til Sunday when his server's cooled down a bit.

  19. Clear a few things up. by jonnythan · · Score: 4, Informative
    If you READ THE SITE,the guy actually changed rolls every 36 miles, but he didn't necessarily stop.
    Shooting through an open window meant no air-conditioning, so he kept the Kodak 5028 VPH film in a cooler. "I would count the miles," he says. "As soon as the thirty-sixth came, I would change rolls, put the exposed roll in a canister, enter its number on a log sheet, take the next one out of the cooler, and insert it. I got to where I could do all that in less than a minute, while steering with my kneecap."
    Also, it was actually attached to his odometer, not speedometer, and he could delay each picture for a moment with a switch if he liked.
    Every time a mile ended, a device attached to the odometer made an electric contact that triggered the shutter release. If a cement wall or other nearby object blocked the view, he had a switch that would delay a picture for a moment.
    And, he did it all twice. First time in a porsche along the interstate, which didn't go so well. Second time in an Explorer along old highways.

    Way nifty :D
    1. Re:Clear a few things up. by Ben+Hutchings · · Score: 2
      Also, it was actually attached to his odometer, not speedometer, and he could delay each picture for a moment with a switch if he liked.

      Ah, as I thought. That explains the not-so-random composition of some of the shots.

  20. Get the term right. by suso · · Score: 2

    Don't you mean the odometer? You know, the device that tells you how many miles your car has traveled.

  21. He didn't stop the vehicle by tswinzig · · Score: 2

    "As soon as the thirty-sixth came, I would change rolls, put the exposed roll in a canister, enter its number on a log sheet, take the next one out of the cooler, and insert it. I got to where I could do all that in less than a minute, while steering with my kneecap."

    At least he wasn't driving some dangerous vehicle while performing these stunts, like a Ford Explorer!

    On his first try, he drove a Porsche and "didn't do enough research," he says. On his next trip, in a high-slung Ford Explorer, he traveled on old highways, mostly U.S. 30, 40 and 50.

    Doh?

    --

    "And like that ... he's gone."
  22. If only... by Aniquel · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ... he'd hooked it up to include the GPS coordinates and orientation of each picture!

  23. Shoulda Gone Digital... by GeekLife.com · · Score: 2

    Especially considering his photos end up being displayed as about 100x200 pixels, a digital camera would have made this a *ton* easier. Not to mention, if he hadn't gotten sponsored by Kodak, the film (& development) of this would have cost about $3000.

    1. Re:Shoulda Gone Digital... by GeekLife.com · · Score: 2

      Everyone except for Kodak.

  24. Hey ! Didn't you Mean the Redundant-o-Meter? by teamhasnoi · · Score: 2
    How many people obviously didn't read the damn story?

    He used his odometer.

    He used a camera with FILM.

    He didn't have to stop to change the film.

    At night he would mark the last mile, find a motel, sleep.

    Then he would resume the trip at the last mile.

    Ahhhg. Please mod this +5 redundant and email to all your friends for the ultimate in redundacy.

  25. Re:ummm... DIGITAL camera? by Ubergrendle · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Digital is not always better. Digital cameras and digitial video certinaly offer alot in cost savings and convenience, but there are certain effects that are still far superior using analog inputs. Consider black & white movies -- films like It's A Wonderful Life have a fabulous luminescance to them that can't be reproduced today...even analog stock manufacturing techniques have changed so much. And NO, it's not practical to assume that you can just build a filter in photoshop/premiere...

    --
    John Maynard Keynes: "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do?"
  26. Re:ummm... DIGITAL camera? by ArcadeNut · · Score: 2

    Why not? Kodak invented the Digital Camera, you would think they would have been just as happy. Maybe even happier since it would promote their digital cameras.

    --
    Visit the Arcade Restoration Workshop @ http://www.arcaderestoration.com
  27. My housemate did this... by grahamsz · · Score: 2

    except he strapped an ATX mobo, DC/DC converter, and a tonne of led acid batteries to his body.

    He then ducttaped a webcam to his shoulder and grabbed images every few seconds, saving them to a laptop disk. The next mission was to have that dialed up to a cellphone to post images to the net every few mins - but i dont know how far he got with that.

    1. Re:My housemate did this... by miracle69 · · Score: 2

      Except that when he tried to fly back to Toronto, they ripped all the stuff off of him and he's now drooling on the side of a hospital while doctors experiment on him.

      Or am I thinking of someone else?

      --
      Linux - Because Mommy taught me to Share.
  28. Re:seeing the pictures without Flash. (corrected) by CodePoet82 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Damned slashdot broke the url...
    http://www.kodak.com/US/en/corp/features/onTheRoad
    / postcards/tellYourFriends.shtml?mile=1

  29. End of Tourism by Beliskner · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Finally, this can put the world wide into the world wide web

    The ultimate open source - every spot in the world on camera, everybody in the world is everyone elses' big brother => lots of little brothers. I don't see why anybody would want to travel abroad now, just take these pictures in London (England), Macchu Pichu (Andes), ancient ruins as of yet unnamed (Bolivia), Pyramids (Egypt). Personally I can spend a few months at this site alone if it was big enough, honestly. Just look at the success of Webshots and that just spews out pictures of rabbits, mountains, dogs, cats all at random. Nothing can beat the Dallas skyline on a beautiful red sunset evening reflecting off the skyscrapers with hazy-red skyline. Nice. I'm sure there are lots of other places with views just as spectacular but nobody has ever been there or heard of it.

    For instance, an architect would love to see places with beautiful buildings, the travel agent doesn't give two hoots about what building is where and who made it. This architect can just log on and see the building structure in Spain, France, Canada, Russia, heck even Vietnam and other thrid world countries.

    A computer programmer would want to see the last remaining building with a VAX inside to mourn (or last Win 95 machine to celebrate), the travel agent would have no idea what he is talking about, but the computer programmer could call up any worlwide location at will so it's not a problem.

    I can't imagine how many people there are in Oklahoma or whatever that can't afford travelling to Canada or France or England or Mexico or Brazil. This way they can get one heck of a taste. Brilliant idea, I'll be watching this closely.

    --
    A caveman dreams of being us, the incalculable power and riches. We dream of being Q, then what?
  30. hook it up to your GPS instead by mmusn · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's probably more useful to hook up a camera to a GPS system. That way, not only can you snap a picture every mile, you can also record where exactly it was snapped without having to make guesses.

  31. Do it digital... by kzinti · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The best part is the fact that he stopped every 36 miles to swap film rolls. Sad thing is, I understand this. (I still love film).

    But this sounds like a situation where a digital camera is better suited. The purpose of this is not to create single great photos, where film is still much better suited, but to create a series of photos to be strung together and viewed as an animation or hypermedia/nonlinear form.

    Connect the digital camera to a laptop, and let the laptop monitor the odometer. The computer can click off the photos at the appropriate intervals, download them, and rescale them on the fly (for f in *.jpg; do djpeg $f | pnmscale -xy 640 480 | cjpeg -q 85 > s-$f && rm $f; done). Or with sufficient disk space, you might not need to rescale the photos. At any rate, let the computer manage the image acquisition - never stop to change film, never fill up the camera's flash memory, and stop only for gas and Dr Pepper.

    As someone who loves to make timelapses with my Kodak DC290, I have actually though of doing something like this - mounting the camera in the car and programming it to take photos every 30 to 60 seconds. Syncing to the odometer is a cool touch!

    --Jim

    1. Re:Do it digital... by psavo · · Score: 2

      Well.. If we had full-frame digiatl cameras, that would be.. Great.
      For example some 16mm lens weould be pretty nice thing on digital. but as most digital (serious) SLR's have 1,6x magnification, you need something like 8mm fisheye (which is pretty damn expensive.. and not even full-frame.)

      --
      fucktard is a tenderhearted description
    2. Re:Do it digital... by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 2

      One of the coolest art projects I ever saw was done buy a guy who took a Polaroid every 4 hours for an entire year of his life no matter where he was, or what he was doing. They were displayed sequentially on the gallery wall. Included were shots of him taking a dump, and a lot of (365?) 4am dead-of-night-in-bed pictures. Think of what a pain in the ass this must have been! IMHO, totally worth it however.

  32. speedometer??? by Gameshow+Bob · · Score: 2, Informative

    wouldn't it be his odometer?

    --

    You Like Science?
    You Like bottomquark.
  33. Primitive version of special camera system by MtViewGuy · · Score: 2

    This person's project is actually a very crude version of a special camera system used by many state transportation authorities to map freeways.

    I believe that California's CalTrans has special movies that show the view out front on a freeway that has pictures taken every 50 feet or so. I remember seeing a news report on KCRA (Sacramento's main TV station) about these pretty amazing movies.

  34. digital camera.. by Suppafly · · Score: 2

    this is the kind of project where technology in the form of a digital camera would have been nice :) This is a cool project though. No matter how good digitals get, nothing bets a good 35mm

  35. Mile 2 has the WTC in it... by GeekLife.com · · Score: 2
  36. I did this sort of by Brigadier · · Score: 2, Funny



    When i drove from CT, CA in 3 days, i took rolls of picture while driving of, landmarks, and pictures of speedlimit signs, with my speedometer in the frame. one shot in colorado was a 75mph zone, and i was going 126mph, and there was a vw passat overtaking me.

  37. Michael Naimark and El Camino Real by em.a18 · · Score: 2

    Michael Naimark, a famous interactive artist, put something similar together many years ago here in California. His project was based on Caltrans footage that was taken at 100 frames per mile along El Camino Real in Silicon Valley. Looks like it was done in 1975 and 1987. Check it out at http://www.naimark.net/projects/elcamino.html

  38. Subway? by chuckw · · Score: 2


    Wasn't Matt the same guy that's been on those Subway commercials 'cause he lost a ton of weight eating subs? Man this guy gets around...
    </humor>

    --
    *Condense fact from the vapor of nuance*
  39. speedos typically count pulses. by rebelcool · · Score: 2
    the faster you move, the more rapid the pulses. Makes for easy detection and calculation (and also allows you to display speed while in reverse)

    The odometer is also tied into this.. in fact, most odometers of the past several years have used stepper motors to turn the digits. In the past 2 years most manufacturers have dispensed with that completely and gone to a digital display.

    --

    -

  40. Speedometer? by alanjstr · · Score: 2

    Speedometer measures speed. Odometer measures distance. I don't even have to read the article to see that detail.

  41. Dammit, too! by vrmlguy · · Score: 2
    I've also wanted to do this for some time.

    Let's see, there were some VR guys that mounted a camera on a bike and took side-looking photos every few feet through some Colorado town, and put together a VR tour of the place. I'm moving in a month or so and wanted to do the same for where I've lived for the past decade.

    Games magazine once had a puzzle consisting of a dozen photos along a very similar route; the goal was to put them into the proper order. It wasn't too hard for me, as I've driven from my house (St. Louis, MO) to my then-mother-in-law's house (Columbus, OH) more times that I can count. Going the other direction, some friends from college and I drove to Colorado for spring skiing for way too many years. So, yeah, I know I-70 pretty well.

    A year ago, I drove my oldest son to Boston to attend college and took pictures with a PalmPix almost every step of the way, mostly of things that had always intriged me but that I hadn't seen for years. In particular, there used to be an old barn just east of the Indiana-Ohio state line that was painted with one of the old Apollo pictures of Earth rising over the lunar horizon. It was gone (or repainted) on my last trip through, so don't bother looking for it now. If anyone has any recollections, or better yet pictures, post a reply to this.

    Well, that's all for now, I guess. I'm going to scroll through those pictures looking for things that I recognize.

    --
    Nothing for 6-digit uids?
  42. odometer, not speedometer by byrd77 · · Score: 4, Informative

    looks like he hacked his odometer, not his speedometer. Odometers click off the miles, speedometers tell you how fast yer goin'.

    I read the post and envisioned a flash sequence of speedometer readings - ooh look, he's back up at 85 again... doh must've been pulled over, we're stopped.

    --
    - Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero.
  43. Are you seeing straight??? by slugfro · · Score: 2

    I'm not sure where you're looking but this is what I see:

    [613] - Picture of a service station
    [614] - Picture of an empty field

    --

    -- Find the Truth...
  44. The icon for the story is wrong by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 2

    An American flag on Slashdot is supposed to mean "bad news". What is it doing on this story?

  45. Where's the speedometer? by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 5, Funny

    I misunderstood. I tought it meant he took a picture of the speedometer every mile. For some reason, I was strangely disappointed to find that this was not the case.

  46. Washington State has every 1/100th mile online by Nethead · · Score: 2, Interesting
    WSDOT has SRweb which is a software tool that allows users to view digital images of the State Highway System via a web browser. SRview was first created and designed for WSDOT's internal use; however, it was soon recognized that SRview would also be beneficial for the general public's use with little or no technical impact to the user. Thus, SRweb was created.

    Now I just hope that I don't slashdot the sight.

    --
    -- I have a private email server in my basement.
  47. Speed by IntelliTubbie · · Score: 2

    Wouldn't it have been easier to hook the camera to his odometer, instead of the speedometer?

    Hey, maybe you could rig it to take a photo every time your speed drops below 50 mph. You might get some exciting pictures of stoplights, motels, convenience stores, etc.

    Cheers,
    IT

    --

    Power corrupts. PowerPoint corrupts absolutely.

  48. Re:mile long loop? by OneFix · · Score: 2

    No, I think I know what you're saying, but I think the point is that it's possible that this method could be flawed.

    Now, assuming that I could see this (I can't)...I see the gas station and then an open field...

    It is certainly possible for the guy to have driven into town for the night...driven ~1/2 mile into town and then driven back to the gas station.

    It's possible, but what I think is more likely is that there's a bug in the flash code used on the site and the poster was seeing the same exact image twice...

  49. Flash is not evil per se ... by Darth+Paul · · Score: 2, Informative
    "The interactive map is -really- well done, but requires flash..."

    I've seen plenty of places where flash is used well to do things that otherwise couldn't be done. Despite all the anti-flash sentiment around here, it's not flash or macromedia itself which sucks, it's designers which insist on making kludgy, overbranded, full-flash sites which suck. Macromedia is actually trying to educate its users about usability and trying to encourage them in the next flash.

    Flash ain't a bad tool, but only in the right places, and this is one of the better uses I've seen...

  50. Why do it the hard way by Caballero · · Score: 2


    I think this is a neat art project, but this would have been much easier to do with a digital camera, GPS, and a latop. No stopping to change rolls of film. No worrying about sequencing the rolls. Easier to make into a flash movie. A hell of a lot cheaper to process.

    I do like this idea. I may have to try it on my motorcycle for my next long trip. :)

  51. Re:I didn't know the US was that flat by mgv · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It seems like he went through some of the most boring, flattest parts of the US on his trip. Even through Colorado and Utah, everything was flat. What's up with that?

    Probably too hard to change the film every 36 miles while driving around the edge of a canyon. :-)

    Michael

    --
    There is no cryptographic solution to the problem where the intended receiver and the attacker are the same entity.
  52. Bah, old stuff.... by jonr · · Score: 2

    Some years ago, some dude here in Iceland did hookup a movie camera to a car's odometer and took one frame every kilometer. Then he drove road no. 1, the road that more or less circles the country, and made a 1 hr. movie out of it. I have only seen parts of it, and it is really weird, AFAIR, you more or less follow the speed of sound.
    Here is the result, btw.

  53. Ohio contains the mark of the beast?!? by mjwise · · Score: 2, Funny

    Went through these, fun to see that they went pretty close to my permanent home (huber heights, ohio -- east of vandalia, ohio on the map) and I think the closest picture to my home is #666! Huber Heights, Ohio the mark of the beast indeed. Well, we did have a kenny rogers roasters restaurant for a while.....yech.

    And for once I'm glad to see an application of flash that is interactive, well-designed, doesn't attempt to cause epileptic seizures AND doesn't try to sell me something.

  54. Re:Why the side-view? by Cryptnotic · · Score: 2

    Because every picture would be of whatever car happened to be in front of him at the time, with a different landscape background for each shot.

    Anyway, there really isn't supposed to be much continuity between successive shots. You're supposed to look at the whole thing. It would actally be quite amazing to see prints of all of these shots lined up from east to west. If you made them 5x7's, though, they would line up to 1927 feet, 4 inches or about 0.36 mile. And that's with no space between each print. I guess you could get it to a quarter mile by using 4x6 prints. However, there aren't many gallerys with a quarter mile wall.

    --
    My other first post is car post.
  55. Kodak also makes digital cameras by BlueUnderwear · · Score: 2

    so it would still have been interesting for them to sponsor the trip, even if it didn't use film.

    --
    Say no to software patents.
  56. Re:Forward looking? by LinuxHam · · Score: 2

    You know, I was thinking about that, too. But in the earlier comments discussing speedometer vs odometer. I found myself thinking that if I had a camera pointing sideways out one of my windows while I was driving, every picture would be blurry. However, if you chose a 90 degree angle and rotated the camera between 0 degrees (pointing straight out the side) and 90 degrees (pointing straight out the windshield) by 1 degree per mile per hour, I would think you would drastically reduce the number of blurry pictures.

    The added benefit of course would be to have 30 chances to get the mountains that are ahead of you, instead of wasting those shots on wheat or whatever it is. Of course, if you set your cruise at 80mph, most of your pictures will have the frame of your car slicing right down the middle. Roofcam!

    --
    Intelligent Life on Earth
  57. Here's one for ya.. by LinuxHam · · Score: 2

    Picture 412 is of downtown Pittsburgh, PA... which also happens to be one of their telephone area codes!

    --
    Intelligent Life on Earth
  58. bulk load film, autofocus camera body by falloutboy · · Score: 2
    Of course you need lots of film for that too. Pretty much standard is 100ft (30.5m) or 55ft (17m) rolls (with these you can fill standard 36 exposure canisters). That is enough for about 800 exposures.


    You're a little bit off there. A 100 foot roll of bulk load film is good for about 18 rolls, 36 exposures each. 36*18 = 648 exposures, not 800.


    Also, the equipment you linked to doesn't appear to work with any autofocus Nikon bodies, something that I think would be pretty vital in this situation.


    On that note, I would use a Canon body. The optics are nearly as good as Nikon, and the autofocus system is much faster, and in my experience, more reliably hits the objects you really wanted.

    1. Re:bulk load film, autofocus camera body by psavo · · Score: 2

      You're a little bit off there. A 100 foot roll of bulk load film is good for about 18 rolls, 36 exposures each. 36*18 = 648 exposures, not 800.

      Well, yeh, probably.
      I calculated it this way: 30.5*100*10mm/((36mm+2mm)/exposure) ~= 802 (exposures).
      Remember that with single back there is no need to 'loose' exposures when reloading. (2-4 exposures/36exposure roll).

      I believe AF is not importaint here as I would use a 16/20mm at hyperfocal.

      About Canon, all is nice and swell, but I failed my google search for canon large-amount exposure back. D'you know if they have some or what is their solution for that?

      --
      fucktard is a tenderhearted description
  59. Actually, much *is* flat by coyote-san · · Score: 2

    Actually, much of the "mountain" states is on high plateaus and is relatively flat. Especially if you stay on interstates, which largely follow old railroad lines which were deliberately routed on flat terrain.

    However you still hit "hiccups" of mountain ranges. I-90 through Montana is especially noteworthy in this regard. If only the RV drivers understood that they might climb hills faster than semis and other RVs, but a sports car over the horizon can maintain 80 MPH even when climbing and *will* soon be on their ass if thet get in the left-most lane.

    If I had run a camera like that, I would have only shown pictures of high plains and the back end of RVs.

    --
    For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong. -- H L Mencken