Cinema Tools for Final Cut Pro

batobin writes "Looks like Apple is expanding their grasp on the film editing industry with their new release of Cinema Tools for Final Cut Pro. It enables FCP 3 to better manage film and 24 fps high density video. The product is expected to ship in May."

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Buyout

[selderrr]

it should be noted that this is one of the products they bought with the acquisition of FilmLogic. So they didn't develop this themselves.

Impressive product nonetheless !

What is more fascinating : consider this 24P stuff from a bandwidth point of view and think about the recent firewire related news. Native HD is going to require quite a bit more firewire bandwidth than 400mbps. Can 1600mbps firwire be that far behind?

$4000 CHEAP!

[Vidmaster_Steve]

Take it you've never checked prices for a Film AVID system? FilmAVID costs (since I last checked) $32k. Thirty. Two. Thousand. Dollars. American.

Just for the software.

Add in an AVIDMedia Capture Card, that's your paltry $4k right there, just for the capture card.

Add in the Film Capture device, another $12-15k. Then you've got your RAIDs, your SP decks ($8-12k, depending on the brand), your monitors (not cheapass NTSC teevees, we're talking real-live production monitors, they run about $500 each, and you need at least one), and not to mention minimum of TWO >19" monitors to edit with.

All in all, to edit film on an AVID system, you're looking at about $65k for a "good" system.

$4k for a G4 box and the Final Cut bundle = DIRT FUCKING CHEAP.

Not to mention that the people that this software is marketed to make $4k on a slow week (shit, I videograph weddings and parties and I make $50/hr)

Re:$4000 CHEAP!

[foobar104]

FilmAVID costs (since I last checked) $32k. Thirty. Two. Thousand. Dollars. American.

Hmm. Given that you can't even get a Media Composer for less than about $30,000, stripped, I'd say you're way off here. The Film Composer starting price is around $70,000, not counting storage.

your monitors (not cheapass NTSC teevees, we're talking real-live production monitors, they run about $500 each, and you need at least one)

Again I must say hmm. Maybe you're talking about a used 14" PVM or something. A decent BVM will cost you at least ten times that figure. More if you get the SDI input option.

All in all, to edit film on an AVID system, you're looking at about $65k for a "good" system.

No, all in all, to edit film on an Avid, you're looking at a base, entry, can't-do-it-for-less price of $70,000 or so. A "good" system will run you around $200,000.

Just thought I'd clarify that a bit.

High Density Video?

[huntdwumpus]

24 fps high density video ...?

That's a new one on me. I think you meant "high-definition (HD) video."

Re:Awright! Time to ditch Premiere!

[huntdwumpus]

Avid DV Express 3.0 will be released for OS X by this summer.

It's worth noting

[Anonymous Coward]

That Avid could enable the "real" 24p editing mode on DV Xpress simply by updating everyone's dongles - it's just disabled through software because it's one of the "high-end" bread and butter type options that Avid reserves for their more expensive systems.

Final cut doing this will probably force Avid to enable it as well - and I'm all in favour of all editing software becoming more powerful at a better price. Better for everyone!

DVX "powerpack" already includes software for tracking film key numbers for film matchback editing, so it's easy enough to go that way too, although it's not a "true" 24 frame edit.

Re:OT: Are there any decent open source video tool

[sunya]

Kino for DV editing :

http://www.schirmacher.de/arne/kino/

Then there was Broadcast2000 (which mig still be availble via sourceforge). Check with Linux Media Arts :

http://www.linuxmediaarts.com
I Think they maintain Broadcast2000 now...

and for the non-OSS stuff check out :
http://www.mainconcept.com