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ASCI White Detonates The First E-Bomb

totallygeek writes "Redefining the term vaporware, research scientists at Lost Alamos and Lawrence Livermore Labs detonated two computer simulations. ASCI White, the world's fastest supercomputer, ran the simulations of nuclear explosions. Scientists can now study nuclear weapon replacement components without violating the nuclear test ban, in effect since 1992. Each simulation used more than 6.6 million CPU hours, which would take home machines 1000 years to complete. The data for each experiment was equivalent to 35 times the information available in the Library of Congress. ASCI White currently operates at 12 teraflops, but by early next year, Los Alamos expects to operate at 30 teraflops. The seven month research project ended last Friday, and now the system is ready for use, after its sucessful testing."

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  1. Someone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    set up us the bomb!

  2. it may take 1000 years to simulate on a home comp. by prizzznecious · · Score: 5, Funny

    But who needs a simulation? If you have an Athlon, just jiggle the fan off and watch the thing in real life!

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  3. Great Advances by stevenbee · · Score: 5, Funny

    I must say this ASCII stuff has come a long way since the days of the dial-up BBS.

    : )

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  4. It's a good start, but... by fobbman · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...I wonder if they could answer a question for me. Will it really only be cockroaches and Keith Richards that would live through a nuclear war?

  5. First 3D simulation... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I think the original subject for this post was a bit misleading. This was the first 3d simulation of a nuclear explosion. There have been many previous simulations of nuclear explosions, only they were limited to 2d plots of data. Nuclear explosion and fallout simulation has been the major purpose of supercomputing at Livermore and Los Alamos for decades.

  6. A Taste of Armageddon... by cqnn · · Score: 5, Funny


    The title of the Star Trek episode where warring
    planets conducted battles completely thru computer
    simulation. This advance takes us closer to that
    future possibilty.

    But, instead of modeling Nuclear detonations, I
    think the interests of warfare could also be served by setting up an ASCI White as a massive
    international UT server, and let national conflicts be settled by a nice game of capture
    the flag.

    Best two out of three?

  7. Re:SETI@home by spullara · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's pretty easy to find out what the computing power of Seti@Home is, just check the totals to find that in the last 24 hours, on average, the computer was running at 96.79 teraflops. Only 8x that of ASCI White.

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  8. No its not... by tgd · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Its primary purpose is to replace nuclear testing that has been banned for ten years -- ten years of having NO idea how the existing warhead supply is aging.

    You may agree or disagree with their intended use, but right or wrong there are two critically important things that we have to know as long as a single warhead still exists.

    1) As the parts age, will it work as designed, when it needs to go off
    2) As the parts age, will it work as designed, when we sure as hell don't want it to.

    In either case, failure carries terrifying outcomes. Think about it -- in one case, the warhead doesn't detonate completely, causing an incredible amount of fallout (Chernobyl-style), which is never the intent of a nuclear warhead. In the other case, people dye (very likely in a similarly polluting manner) when it goes off unexpectedly.

    As long as nuclear warheads exist, this sort of research is absolutely critical, and its not anyones place to put down this research for ethical reasons related to the existance of the bomb. The two are related but totally separate, and you shouldn't cross those beams.

  9. In other news... by realgone · · Score: 5, Funny

    Greenpeace immediately responded by running simulations of anti-nuke protests on an old 486 sitting on a card table outside Lawrence Livermore Labs.

  10. Rods to the hogshead... by seanadams.com · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The data for each experiment was equivalent to 35 times the information available in the Library of Congress.

    The Library of Congress was an interesting comparison back when CD-ROM drives were first becoming popular 10 years ago, and laymen had no clue about the storage capabilities of computers. Now it's just plain stupid.

    Imagine if hard drives were specd in KLOCs - thousands of libraries of congress. :)

  11. Re:SETI@home by mblase · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I wonder what the computing power of SETI@home is. Could such a thing be done with a distributed system across home machines? Hmm. Should I download a distributed computing client to...
    1. analyze the human genome,
    2. fold cancer-curing proteins,
    3. locate possible sources of alien intelligence, or
    4. help the government explode a virtual nuke?
    (No nastiness intended. My point is that it might be hard to get people to download a client with that particular goal in mind.)
  12. Re:SETI@home by astroboy · · Score: 5, Insightful
    SETI@home can't be used for things like this, as it turns out.

    Running programs in parallel is pretty difficult; you have to figure out how to divide the problem amongst different processors. Some problems (which are said to be `embarrassingly parallel') are easy to do this -- every different processor just searches a different part of key-space for a key to decrypt a code, or a different part of frequency-space looking for a signal. There doesn't have to be any sort of inter-process communication to speak of in these problems.

    A fluids or mechanical (or combined) simulation, however, requires lots of communication between computational elements. Each processor is simulating some region of space, and it constantly needs information about the fluid all around it to know what to do next. (Is a shock wave coming from the left?)

    And even fluids/mechanics simulations are simpler than simulations involving long-range forces like gravity. In that case, every single computational element probably needs at least some information from every other computational element!

    In cases like that, highly-distributed computing a la SETI@home won't work. Whereas for brute-force code-cracking, or searching for signals in reams of indepdendant data, it's perfect.