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Copyright [CBDTPA] Bill Universally Rejected
smcavoy writes " Globe Technology is carrying a article about the CBDTPA. "We haven't received one e-mail in support of the Hollings bill," said Judiciary Committee spokeswoman Mimi Devlin. "It seems like there's a groundswell of support from regular users." I wonder if the technology industry was pro CBDTPA, would we be hearing as many bad things about it, in the press?"
This is a great day in the US. Not that our technology legislation is that much to be proud of, but today is a great day.
At the end of the day, Campaign Donations from media companies like Disney and Universal only go so far. If enough voters are against something, elected representatives tend to vote against it as well. I would urge people to keep writing letters in protest of the bill, as they do seem to make a difference.
yes i run a goth/punk/emo porn site.
Hey the Consumer Electronics industry and the software industry isn't against DRM and copy protection per se. They just don't want to have the method dictated by the government.
Remember MS received a patent on a DRM OS. They will use that to court everybody who wants to restrict information access, and use it internally to sell/control their own software.
People would resize the image to 90%, then back up to 100%, and the bot couldn't recognise the watermark anymore. Of course there was a loss in quality, but it wasn't much.
I download a play with a lot of Linux distros (I'm always looking for a home) and I go through, say, 10 blank CDs a week. I have done nothing illegal. It should be done from wider taxpayer monies, not me. I'm nothing to do with it and it's a societal problem - not a media problem.
ps. Hey slashdot, there's a typo in the comment posting box saying I can use a non-existant html tag named 'ecode'.
I found this blurb interesting
Media firms could also take a page from the antipiracy playbook of software companies, who concentrate on shutting down large, commercial piracy operations rather than trying to control individual users, he said.
I would wager that it would be easier to buy a bill than it would be stop some companies like Kaaza or Morpheus...
Or an even better idea... make digital music cheaper and more usuable.
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Some weasel took the cork out of my lunch.
Now that our complaining has killed SSSCA and scored a direct hit on CBDTPA, we should go after Hollings by encouraging the geeks of South Carolina to hold him accountable for these bills in every public forum they can find. If he is voted out of the Senate, then other potential Disney appointees will realize that acting as an errand boy for the entertainment industry is not without risk. Turning him into a national laughingstock is amusing, but the only people who can make him go away are the people who put him there: the voters of South Carolina.
According to opensecrets.org he was elected in 1998, which means the next election is 2004. Is it mere coincidence or is the midpoint of a Senate term the ideal time to deal with the sleaziest bills that PAC money can buy?
I find it really odd that this guy is a Democrat. I'm a Republican, and it's usually my guys who specialize in catering to anti-consumer interests like this. The Democrats ususally waste money on social programs and tax the hell out of the middle class to pay for it. He really should make up his mind: either be sleazy or counterproductive; it's not good to be both.
The battle at this point is only half done. As one user mentioned,...remember the DMCA, SSSCA..
It might worthwhile to consider starting a grass roots effort to now oust Ernest Hollings.
Need to let congressmen know that there are penalties for stupid legislation and perhaps other congressmen might think before doing this.
This would be the "two" of the "one-two" punch.
Then again geeks aren't known for fighting.....
I would tend to disagree.
The press has always been responsible for it's own failure or success. You can't expect people to regulate it, or steer it in the right direction, when people can only possibly learn of it's misdeeds and mistakes through *gasp*, THE PRESS! The media dips into sensationalism because it allows itself to be driven by profit and whatever it's ratings are, they're NEVER enough. Not ALL people are going to care about what's on the news, it's as simple as that. You can't ruin the news trying to cater to idiots who don't care what's going on outside their small world, and yet, that's exactly what's happened. Sept. 11th should've been a wake up call for the media, as well. I don't know how people could stand for that kind of coverage. Anyone who's watched serious news like the BBC might agree. It was no less than 20 minutes after the planes hit, that NBC had created a 'music video' for the tragedy, with slides of fire, explosions, and people covered in ash flying across the screen as corny, dramatic music played in the background. Despite everything that was happening, it still made me want to turn off the television.
And I think a lot of people are sick and jaded by the nature of our news media, but it's hard to say if anyone will ever know how big this problem is because, again, they'd have to hear about it from the news media.
I think things really have gone out of perspective. The thing that really needs to be remembered in all of this, is the fact that these bills really shouldn't be allowed to happen without support. The thing about copyright is that we have it because, believe it or not, people supposedly want it.
/really/ like some pop group / film maker / etc. will pay in an attempt to make sure they make more of their product, but society has agreed that it shouldn't fall to the obsessed few, but instead anyone who gains enjoyment from this sort of thing should contribute - in just the same way everyone should have to pay for trains, not just those that /really/ believe in mass-transport.
/really/ want to download music for free, and nobody is willing to pay for it, society should stop forcing people to. Perhaps some people will stop making music, but, as I say, there isn't some God-given right for them to do this for a living if society doesn't value it enough.
Essentially, copyright is there to protect society from freeloaders - of course people that
The thing that is forgotten, however, is that this happens because society wants it. The moment the population decides that the cost / benefit proposition isn't good enough, they should be able to get rid of these laws. Hence, if people
So basically, whilst many things obviously aren't put to the vote, since copyright can only be defended on the basis that if people really think about it they support it, if people really don't it can't be defended. So if people are really against this sort of bill, it would be ridiculous to pass it.
Maybe we should push for new laws that explicitly allow certain things. It's harder to overturn an existing law than to pass a new one.
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IIRC, NBC was just copying off of the VERY successful model CNN pioneered for the Gulf War. Don't you remember the Gulf War? The event that propelled CNN to it's skyrocketing success? They had their own Gulf War logo, their own Gulf War theme song - da works. Prior to the Gulf War, CNN was really not taken very seriously as a news organization at all. But the fact that people could turn to them 24 hours a day for the latest coverage, and the fact that they had guys IN Baghdad the night the bombing started, I think were the real reasons CNN became so popular. But I guess when copying success, they'd rather focus on the logos and theme songs. Quite pathetic, really.
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THere have got to be better choices there.
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Thats what they want! They *never ever* expected this bill to pass. This is merely mis-direction so they can get what they want when no one is looking. Now we have to start all over -- find out what new bill is evil -- get the word out again. This is classic strategic manuvering. *Don't fall for it*
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According to this NEWS.COM article, Gateway is going to be voicing its opposition to the CBDTPA. The best part is that they're going to begin airing a national TV spot on the topic of downloading and burning music. Doesn't look like it's going to directly reference the bill, but people will doubtless see it, and it will prime them for exposure to information about what's going on. I'd recommend that everyone here watch for the ad and see if it can be used as a reference when writing letters to newspapers or your Congressional reps.
Definitely a good thing here.
That light you see at the end of the tunnel might be from an oncoming train.
A great victory for consumers. Congress held an inquiry, got swamped by all of our* emails opposing it, and figured that Mickey Mouse Hollings was nuts.
Fair enough, we could have told them that for free. Oh wait, we did! Well done.
Best part, Hollings can't understand why the tecchie companies won't cooperate with him. "please write me a DRM system for free" he asks, and all he gets back in return are attempted beatings with a clue-stick.
*Your emails, not mine. Pity non-americans can't bug congressmen for this stuff that'll be applied worldwide, but we can go through the EFF.
He received numerous phone calls, emails & letters from informed computer users & professionals stating in careful detail why this was a bad bill.
And how did the esteemed senator respond? ``You're not one of my constituents, so I won't listen to you."
BTW, why would someone moderate the parent comment ``Flamebait"? Sheesh!
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I think I see a trend here. Maybe for them it really would be easier to muzzle the entire internet than to produce p
>> this may not be a popular view here,
>> but i dont believe that it is anyones
>> right to download copyrighted material for free
You do precisely that anytime you tune into a commercially supported television or radio signal.
A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
And I will vote for Pigasus before I'll vote for Feinstein again.
Senator Boxer is thoroughly 0wned by Hollywood. She's just as bad as Feinstein.
Much as I don't like Republicans and much as I do like women in the Capitol I'm going to vote Libertarian next Senatorial elections. Throw these sellouts to the MPAA and RIAA out the fsckin' door. See ya...
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New copyright protection bill would turn government into entertainment 'rent-a-cop'
WASHINGTON, DC -- The Consumer Broadband and Digital Television Promotion Act (CBDTPA), a bill that would supposedly reduce digital piracy, should be rejected by Congress because it would turn the government into a "rent-a-cop" for the entertainment industry, the Libertarian Party said today.
"The Consumer Broadband and Digital Television Promotion Act will not only inconvenience consumers and throw roadblocks in the way of new technology, it will vastly expand the power of the government," warned the party's executive director, Steve Dasbach.
"While the federal government may have a legitimate role in protecting copyrighted material, that role does not extend to acting as a technology rent-a-cop to protect the profits of huge entertainment corporations like Disney, Sony, and DreamWorks."
Last week, Senator Ernest F. Hollings (D-SC) filed S-2048, the Consumer Broadband and Digital Television Promotion Act.
The bill would make it a federal crime -- punishable by five years in jail and a $500,000 fine -- to sell software or hardware that does not contain shielding measures that make it impossible to play or copy protected materials like songs, movies, or TV shows.
The bill's provisions would apply to computers, video-editing software, CD players, VCRs, MP3 players and software, DVD players, and televisions, among others. The copyright-protection technology would be determined either by manufacturers and entertainment companies, or mandated by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC).
The CBDTPA is allegedly designed to stop digital piracy, which has become an increasing problem now that everything from songs to movies are in digital form, and downloadable from the Internet.
But the CBDTPA goes far beyond any reasonable role the government might have in protecting copyrighted works, said Dasbach.
"According to the Constitution, the federal government has the power to 'promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive rights to their respective writings and discoveries,'" he noted. "In other words, Congress can grant exclusive copyrights, which entertainers can defend, as necessary, by filing copyright infringement lawsuits.
"The CBDTPA, by contrast, gets the federal government involved in the production of everything from televisions to computers, and software programs to operating systems. And, instead of just targeting criminals who illegally steal copyrighted materials, it treats every consumer as a potential digital pirate -- while turning federal bureaucrats into the Digital Police."
Further, said Dasbach, the Consumer Broadband and Digital Television Promotion Act would:
"The bill would make it impossible for you to turn a CD you purchased into MP3 songs to play on your computer," he said. "It guts the traditional notion of 'fair use,' which allows consumers non-commercial reproduction rights."
"Federally mandated copyright-protection technology will not only drive up the cost of computers, DVD players, and VCRs, it may force consumers to purchase multiple copies of movies and albums -- pouring billions of extra dollars into the pockets of wealthy conglomerates," he said.
"The bill is a dream come true for Bill Gates, because it could make it illegal to own one of the most successful operating system competitors to Microsoft Windows," he said. "The result would be to stifle competition in the computer industry."
In short, the Consumer Broadband and Digital Television Promotion Act is an overly broad, overly rigid, and overly intrusive response to the problem of digital piracy, said Dasbach.
"Digital piracy is a real dilemma, and the entertainment industry has a real challenge ahead of it -- to figure out how to make a profit and protect artists in a digital age," he said. "But the solution is not to pass the CBDTPA, which would turn the federal government into the omnipresent technology police, and treat every consumer like a criminal."
Check this out if you want to see Gateway's stance on the whole deal.
Why, I offered several helpful suggestions in my letters to my senators:
I suggested that protections for fair use rights be written into the bill (appending a copy of the Digital Consumer Bill of Rights as a proposed model), and that the penalties for infringing those rights be made equivalent to those for copyright violation.
I suggested that, to insure that the new standard did not unduly impair independent publishing, the requirements for the final standard would have to include a complete lack of patent, copyright, or trade secret encumbrances.
I think I forgot to suggest that CPR teams be dispatched to watch Jack Valenti, Hilary Rosen, and Bill Gates before the new version of the bill was released for public comment. I can only hope that one of the staffers realized this necessity in time.
/. If the government wants us to respect the law, it should set a better example.
I think that in a sense we are protected by the media companies' refusal to settle for anything less than absolute control These companies are dominated by laywers and if there is anything that lawyers had better be able to do well it's negotiate. They'll give you a minor point here and there, stall it wear you down then take back what they gave you a while ago. This ain't no fat lady singing here it's just a warm-up, this hasn't got anything to do with piracy, it's about controlling All of the distribution channels
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Technology firms did not want to testify in the hearing, did not offer input while the bill was being drafted, and have offered plenty of criticism but little helpful suggestions since, a Hollings aide said.
"They seem satisfied to try to attack it in the press rather than trying to make it work," said Sen. Hollings spokesman Andy Davis.
Can't he get it into his thick head we do not want anything like this bill and in fact want to roll back copyright rather than see it roll over us? The arrogance of Senator 'show me Disney Money' Hollings is unbelievable
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