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Burrough's Martian Tales Optioned

shagrat writes "One of my favorite series of books has been optioned by Paramount. It would be produced by those that created 'The Mummy'. I'm not sure how that makes me feel."

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  1. Do you smell it.. by RadioheadKid · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah, you know, another GREAT movie with the Rock in it...

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    1. Re:Do you smell it.. by Snodgrass · · Score: 2, Funny

      I hope that's the Rock I smell...otherwise, I'm doing laundry tonight.

  2. WhooHoo by smartin · · Score: 2

    I love those books, download them from Project Gutenberg and read them on your palm!

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  3. got to be good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    well if it's by the Mummy people, I'm sure they'll leave the plot untouched. AND it's almost guaranteed to have a-list actors like the Rock and Brendan Frasier in it!!! good!

  4. How do you option public domain? by wahay · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I was certain these books were in the public domain. You can download them off project gutenberg. Why is a studio paying good money to 'option' them? Perhaps they'd pay me for my permission to option Hamlet.....

    1. Re:How do you option public domain? by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 2

      the money might go to a screenplay rework?

    2. Re:How do you option public domain? by 56ker · · Score: 2

      People do have to actually write the script - you can't just give the book to the actors and expect a film!

    3. Re:How do you option public domain? by Dr.Dubious+DDQ · · Score: 3, Informative
      I was certain these books were in the public domain.

      Well, the writings themselves pretty much HAVE to be (the first book was written in 1912, according to the article).

      The article mentions:
      Danton Burroughs, grandson of Edgar Rice Burroughs and a director of the rights holding company[...]

      I wonder exactly what "rights" the "holding company" has? Perhaps they've Trademarked the characters? That would (as I understand it) mean that verbatim copies of the original stories are public domain, but "derivative works" using any of the trademarked characters or settings would need to license them (which, to me, emphasizes the bogosity of Disney's "Mickey Mouse Must Be Protected By Eternal Copyright Or The World Will End(tm)" arguments - since I'm pretty sure they maintain Trademark rights to Mickey and co., the only thing really at issue is free distribution of some of their really old works...)

    4. Re:How do you option public domain? by Bourbonium · · Score: 4, Informative

      Nothing Burroughs wrote is in the public domain. His family has maintained control over all of his estate and renews the copyrights on all of his works whenever they are due to expire. He was so successful during his lifetime that an entire industry evolved out of the Tarzan series, and his family owns a lot of Los Angeles Real Estate. That's how the city of Tarzana, California came to be incorporated; it was originally the Burroughs family estate. ERB was almost a corporation unto himself!

    5. Re:How do you option public domain? by SandSpider · · Score: 3, Informative
      Why is a studio paying good money to 'option' them?

      Aside from the people who point out that it's not necessarily under public domain, the article mentions:
      For almost a decade, Disney spent millions developing the "Mars" books as both a live-action and animation franchise[...]



      Jacks acknowledged that there "is a complicated legal situation and significant rights (still) need to be acquired.



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    6. Re:How do you option public domain? by sconeu · · Score: 2

      Just a nitpick.

      Tarzana is not a separate incorporated city, it is part of the city of Los Angeles. It is, however, a separate named community within that city.

      If the San Fernando Valley secedes from the City of L.A., Tarzana will become part of the city of San Fernando Valley (I think that's what they chose).

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    7. Re:How do you option public domain? by Bartab · · Score: 2, Informative

      and renews the copyrights on all of his works whenever they are due to expire

      This is now nonsensical as copyrights are no longer "renewed." The only way to get extensions is to to buy numerous congresspeople and get law passed. However, in 1963, the failure to renew several of his copyrights did place major works into the public domain. As he's been dead for 52 years, any item copyrighted in 1923 or earlier has also expired.

      The balance is public domain by Australian law, and is available at Gutenberg Australia

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    8. Re:How do you option public domain? by 56ker · · Score: 2

      "That's how the city of Tarzana, California came to be incorporated"

      And to think there was a time when all Tarzan had to think about was how to keep Jane happy and whether his vine would snap! :o)

    9. Re:How do you option public domain? by Rogerborg · · Score: 2
      • Nothing Burroughs wrote is in the public domain.

      I'll just go ahead and assert that everything Burroughs wrote is in the public domain.

      • His family [...] renews the copyrights on all of his works whenever they are due to expire.

      Pish tosh. Please don't post such utter nonsense. There is no mechanism for "renewing copyright" on a work, other than by bribing Congress to change the law. You can defend a trademark, which is probably what you are talking about, but that's not what you said.

      If I release a non-commercial derivative work based on Barsoom trademarks that does not pass itself off as an original, or cheapen the brand, then any reasonably objective court would protect that usage. However, whether I could afford to let it go to court is a different question. The irony of it is that anyone with the resources to defend their use of Burrough's trademarks (like a production company) will likely be using them in a commercial and transformative way that is not protected fair use.

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    10. Re:How do you option public domain? by Rogerborg · · Score: 2
      • That would (as I understand it) mean that verbatim copies of the original stories are public domain, but "derivative works" using any of the trademarked characters or settings would need to license them

      Yes, if you want to use them in a commercial way, or to pass your interpretation off as canon, or use them in a transformative fashion that might dilute or cheapen the brand. Writing a non-commercial fan fiction work in the spirit of the originals that does not attempt to pass itself off as an original is protected (assuming you've got the resources to prove your innocence when the estate sicks a pack of lawyers on you).

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  5. Current technology by Kargan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    //Jacks told Daily Variety that three of the best-known books (which include "Gods of Mars" and "The Warlord of Mars") are likely to be made into films of a scope "akin to 'The Lord of the Rings' and 'Star Wars,' but were impossible to make before, because CGI (computer technology) wasn't there."//

    So, bearing this statement in mind, are there any stories out there which still cannot be effectively made into movies due to lack of technology?

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    1. Re:Current technology by 56ker · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah the story of my life - no technology exists to make it interesting enough for people to actually want to go to see a film about it.

    2. Re:Current technology by MarcoAtWork · · Score: 2

      I really don't think so: it's more a question of budget, if you think that a budget of $500M/$1B is acceptable, I don't see many 'stories' unfeasible for technological reasons alone.

      There *are* a lot of stories that are unfeasible for other reasons (scope) one of the best known IMHO is the Foundation Trilogy, while technologically would be fairly expensive due to all the CG shots, making it in a movie that's not 16 hours long and is still nearly as good as the books would be quite an undertaking.

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    3. Re:Current technology by ender81b · · Score: 2

      I would say the following would be *really* difficult not because of technology which renders such questions moot but just to VISUALIZE and adequatley convey the scope of said project:

      Larry Niven's Ringworld -Been proposed many a time but no filmaker has yet to accept the challenge

      Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars - how do you adequately portray a space elevator? The massive terraforming of a world? How do you convey the SCOPE?

      There are probably others but I am kindof lazy right now. You get the point though - any sufficently large hard-to-conceputalize book would do it.

    4. Re:Current technology by jafac · · Score: 2

      I've also been fantasizing about a movie series of the whole Elric of Melnibone books. Obviously with a Blue Oyster Cult soundtrack. Possibly starring Jerry Busey (he's not an albino, but his father played one in Lethal Weapon - they're so pale, they can pass for one).

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    5. Re:Current technology by Arandir · · Score: 2

      There's very strong, and I mean very strong, rumour that a Ringworld movie is being worked on.

      See the Movie link at www.larryniven.com.

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    6. Re:Current technology by slashdot_commentator · · Score: 2


      Some reason, I see the Foundation trilogy as a TV mini-series. The key problems would be casting and screenwriting. You can limp around the special effects (but not Warlords of Mars).
      Another cool idea would be sci-fi series around I Robot/Elijah Bailey.

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  6. What about a movie based on a website? by Jabberjab · · Score: 2, Funny

    Sometimes these movies just don't turn out. Why not make a movie based on website? Can you imagine what a movie about Slashdot or NerdTreeHouse would look like? I want movies based on websites! Are you with me?

  7. depends by eric6 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    it depends on what sort of movie you're looking for. If you want a tongue-in-cheek adventure movie, perhaps these are the producers for you. if you want something harder-edged, maybe not. on the other hand, one's previous work in the film industry isn't always a good indicator about what one can/will do.

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  8. it should make you feel good by elmegil · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The Burroughs books are pure space opera. Of course the people who did 'The Mummy' can do them justice, they're pretty fluffy already. I think this will be really impressive if it really comes to the screen.

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    1. Re:it should make you feel good by ender81b · · Score: 2

      The Burroughs books are pure space opera. Of course the people who did 'The Mummy' can do them justice, they're pretty fluffy already.

      I will not disagree with you that they are pure fluff but, then again, so was Star Wars. Would you *really* want the guys who did the Mummy to do Star Wars? Do you think they would turn out the same? Didn't think so. =).

      P.S. they would probably make something with a horrid plot, an annoying sidekick that appeals to children, and a long-drawn out 'race' ... oh. Right.

  9. English author? by Bourbonium · · Score: 5, Informative

    I have a tendendcy to trust CNN reports for accuracy, but they refer to ERB as an English author. He was as American as applie pie and All Story magazine. Get yer facts straight, man.

    All that aside, I've dreamed of seeing the John Carter series on the screen since I was a schoolboy, reading all twelve books in sequence, purchased through the Science Fiction Book Club. I knew even then that such a project would be far too expensive to ever be realized successfully (and having seen what happened to other ERB books that were filmed in the 1970s; remember "The Land/People that Time Forgot" and "At the Earth's Core?"). But now that CGI effects have made such large-scale fantasies technically possible, and the boxoffice success of similar films makes them financially feasible, I can see "A Princess of Mars" being turned into a pretty good Saturday Afternoon popcorn matinee hit, just as the Mummy films were.

    I hope they don't make the entire series, though, since the books were very uneven in quality. The series was so popular that Burroughs was under a lot of pressure from the publisher to grind them out very quickly over the years and some of them are really quite poor, hitting the low point with the last one, which was supposedly completed by Burrough's son after his death and based on some very sketchy notes.

  10. Only Redeeming Quality of "The Mummy" by scotch · · Score: 2
    is the fact that Blixa Bargeld of Einsturzende Neubauten fame was the growl behind the mummy. That was one "industrial" mummy. Otherwise the movie sucked ass. Hopefully, this new creation will be better. Maybe they can get the whole band to do growling/banging/whatever?

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    1. Re:Only Redeeming Quality of "The Mummy" by scotch · · Score: 2

      It's called getting old. Everyone does it.

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  11. Full circle by eGabriel · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You can see bits of Burroughs' influence in just about any science fiction film today. I am really excited about the possibility of seeing this stuff on the big screen, especially if it maintains the settings of the books.

    I don't see any reason why the producers of "The Mummy" would be a bad choice. "The Mummy" was very much in the vein of pulp sci-fi and the old movies that arose from it. In fact, he'd probably make a super John Carter.

    Who do you think WILL play John Carter?

    1. Re:Full circle by slashdot_commentator · · Score: 2


      As I see it, I'd like Sam Raimi producing, and possibly Kevin Smith writing the screenplay. Bruce Campbell would have been killer for the role 10 years ago, but he may be a little long in the tooth now. It would need a record breaking budget to do the CGI justice.

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  12. Re:Special Effects by zaffir · · Score: 2, Insightful

    More like more great fantasy and scifi books turned horrible movies. Pretty soon everyone will be trying to ride the (much deserved) succes of LotR and the crap will start to show up.

    I sure hope that isn't the case with Martian Tales, but i wouldn't be surprised if it was.

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  13. Optioned long ago by animator Bob Clampett! by StefanJ · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Remember, folks, that options don't always pan out.

    Sometimes treatments get made. Sometimes scripts get written. Sometimes the projects go into "pre-production," which I suspect is Hollywoodese for "We're trying to line up the funding!"

    I am pretty sure I remember the ERB Mars books being optioned about twenty years back . . . vague recollections from Starlog, which seemed to specialize in drool-spewing stories about upcoming movies.

    Perhaps my title isn't totally accurate. An actual option may not have been involved. I do know that Bob Clampett, creator of "Beany and Cecil" and one of the deranged guys behind the Warner Bros. cartoons, made animated-pencil-sketch segments of ERB Mars characters.

    I saw stills of some of these . . . a guy riding a six-legged beastie (thark?). Kind of stylish and simple, not the lurid Frazetta type art that people seem to envision when ERB stories are mentioned.

    So. Don't get your hopes up. Even if it gets made, don't get your hopes up. It could be turned into kiddie toy fodder.

    My advice: Go hunt up the books. It is about time they were reprinted anyway.

    Stefan

    1. Re:Optioned long ago by animator Bob Clampett! by Robotech_Master · · Score: 2

      And let's not forget the rumors of a John Carter script treatment commissioned by/for Patrick Swayze a few years back.

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    2. Re:Optioned long ago by animator Bob Clampett! by slashdot_commentator · · Score: 2


      I saw stills of some of these . . . a guy riding a six-legged beastie (thark?). Kind of stylish and simple, not the lurid Frazetta type art that people seem to envision when ERB stories are mentioned.



      It would have to have that lurid Franzetta look in order to really catch the filmgoer's eye! Anything less exotic or lurid would make this movie an intense snoozefest. In fact, I wouldn't want a hint of modernism in this film. It'll be hard to get a suspension of belief considering that Mars is a barren, freezing, poorly lit planet; the movie would have to go for a surreal fantasy landscape.

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  14. CLARIFICATION Re:Optioned long ago by StefanJ · · Score: 2
    The option deal I (might) have read about in Starlog wasn't the Clampett one.

    Clampett's work on the project happened a LONG time ago. I'm sure a Google search would turn something up, but I think it was the late 1940s.

    Stefan

    1. Re:CLARIFICATION Re:Optioned long ago by Dr.Dubious+DDQ · · Score: 2
      Clampett's work on the project happened a LONG time ago. I'm sure a Google search would turn something up[...]

      Looking at what came up on MY google search ("Edgar Rice Burroughs" "Bob Clampett"), it appears that some images related to this project might actually be in the "extras" section of a Beany and Cecil DVD that has evidently been released...

  15. Ugh... by guinsu · · Score: 2, Flamebait

    No wonder people dislike sci-fi so much when crap like this gets made into a movie. I mean seriously, its horrendously outdated adventure crap so its just going to be a big special effects extravaganza with no plot. Here we go with another "Scoprion King" or "Tomb Raider"

  16. aahhh! by apachetoolbox · · Score: 4, Funny
    Studio brass obviously take comfort in knowing Jacks and Daniels are on the job -- the duo made Universal's wildly successful "The Mummy" and "The Mummy Returns" movies...
    Jack Daniels was the cause of The Mummy and The Mummy Returns, that explains a lot...

  17. From the author of Tarzan! by Xtifr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm an old ERB fan myself, but let's not forget that he is the author of Tarzan. Frankly, I'm surprised that it's taken Hollywood this long to option up the Barsoom tales. As for the studios "ruining" the stories, well, they sorta ruined Tarzan too, but the end result was, in the long run, still very entertaining.

    We're not exactly talking great literature here. Yes, I'm a fan, but I don't delude myself. These are entertaining young-adult action-adventure stories, and as such, the creators of The Mummy seem like a perfectly good choice.

    As for Deja Thoris' "nekkid bosoms", well, consider the Tarzan movies, and don't get your hopes up. If they found an exuse to cover Jane's breasts, they'll probably find an excuse to cover Deja Thoris' too. No biggie, if these are popular and produce spinoffs, eventually, a modern Bo Derek will step up to the plate and offer her hooters for the role. :)

    1. Re:From the author of Tarzan! by Angst+Badger · · Score: 3, Insightful
      As for the studios "ruining" the stories...

      Well, exactly. Besides, the movie doesn't really have any impact on the book. Frank Herbert's Dune series is just as fabulous after the equally horrid David Lynch and Sci-Fi channel butcherings of it as it was before. Heinlein's Starship Troopers is still a remarkable book despite Paul Verhoeven's (only tangentially related) film version.

      Frankly, I think it's a little silly to even compare movies and books. Talking about the movie version of a book is a bit like hoping for the sculpture version of Beethoven's Fifth. The relationship is tenuous at best.

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  18. ObKatzBash by sconeu · · Score: 2, Offtopic

    Only if Kenny from South Park plays JonKatz.

    "Oh my G-d! They killed Katz! You HEROES!"

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  19. Great adventure story by rhea · · Score: 3, Informative

    If they actually make A Princess of Mars into a movie, it will be worth seeing. Edgar Rice Burroughs deserves to be known for more than Tarzan. His Martian Tales are great adventure novels.

    For those who haven't read A Princess of Mars, it goes a bit like this...

    John Carter is a calvary captain of the former Confederacy, prospecting in the hills of Arizona in 1866. A strange force draws him across the "trackless immensity of space" to Mars.

    He first falls in with a warrior tribe of green Martians. They capture a lovely woman of the more human-like red Martians, with whom Carter falls in love. A rollicking adventure ensues, complete with radium-powered propulsion-ray personal hovercraft, arena combat, princesses and ransoms, treachery and last-minute heroics and a cliff-hanger ending to leave you weeping...

    Burroughs spins a fine yarn,and his tech and storylines are already so cinematic that adaptation shouldn't be too difficult. The only thing that they probably will change is that generally the characters wear jeweled harnesses and not much else.

  20. An Odd Bit of History (long) by Wise+Dragon · · Score: 2, Informative

    Burroughs used to live in my hometown: Parma, Idaho. Population 2000. Here's an article from the Argus Observer (the remaining Parma newspaper died a few years ago).

    Tarzan author lived in Parma
    Dawn Eden, Argus Observer, July 10, 2000
    The Online News & Information Network for the Western Treasure Valley Argus Observer

    For more than the past century, famous people have come and gone from Idaho. One man few people know resided in Parma for a short time was Edgar Rice Burroughs, author of "Tarzan."

    Burroughs was born in Chicago Sept. 1, 1875, and first came to Idaho in the late 1800s, joining
    his brothers in working at Sweetser Ranch, located west of American Falls.

    Inside the Old Fort Boise replica in Parma, a historical display about Burroughs describe how he
    mended fences and drove cattle at the ranch, before returning to Chicago a year later to finish
    school.

    After bouncing between Idaho and Chicago, and marrying Emma Hulbert, a childhood neighbor in
    Chicago in 1900, Burroughs returned to Idaho for the third, and last time, in 1903.

    He was invited by his brothers to rejoin them in Idaho. His brothers, Harry, George and Frank,
    along with a man named Louis Sweetser, had reorganized the Yale Dredging Co. into the
    Sweetser-Burroughs Mining Co.

    It was written when Burroughs arrived in Idaho for the last time, his brothers were operating a gold dredge in the Stanley Basin and on the Snake River in Parma.

    Parma historian, the late Lucille Peterson, once wrote that prior to Burroughs' move from
    Stanley to Parma in 1903, the Parma residents began making plans for a "village government."
    Peterson wrote that during the town election in April 1904, several nominations appeared on the ballot, one of whom was Burroughs, and he won by one vote 49 to 48. He served about one month.

    It was published in the "Edgar Rice Burroughs Amateur Press Association" fanzine that Burroughs "had run as an independent but had still managed to secure enough votes to edge his way in.

    "Burroughs recalled, I button-holed every voter that I met, told him that I was running for
    office and that I did not want to be embarrassed by not getting a single vote and asking him as a personal favor to cast his vote for me, with the result that enough of them tried to save me from embarrassment to cause my election.'"

    Peterson wrote she agreed that Burroughs' decision to run as an independent was probably how he got the votes. Parma, she told one of the contributing authors of the "Edgar Rice Burroughs
    Amateur Press Association" fanzine, was at that time an intensely political town with two competing newspapers one Democrat and one Republican. An Independent offered an extra choice to members of both parties.

    Burroughs served with the Parma town government only a short time, and after the dredging company went bankrupt, he left Idaho for the last time, moving to Utah for a job as a railroad policeman.

    He eventually ended up in California where he spent the rest of his life writing.

    Burroughs began his writing career when he was in his mid 30s while he was proofreading advertising for "pulp magazines" in California. It was written that his "eyes strayed to an adjoining column of the magazine, a bit of fiction, and he quickly decided that he could write imaginary tales more appealing than that one."

    It was at that time he wrote, "Under the Moons of Stars," and mailed it to an All Story magazine editor, who sent Burroughs $4 for a six-part series.

    In 1912, Burroughs began writing "Tarzan of the Apes." When he wrote "Tarzan," All Story
    Magazine purchased it for $7, and two years later it was published as a book.

    The first "Tarzan" movie was released in 1918.

    The story of Tarzan begins with his parents, "John Clayton," Lord Greystroke of England, and his wife, the former "Hon. Alice Rutherford." Lady Alice was pregnant when the ship, carrying the couple to her husband's mission in Africa, sinks and the couple ends up on the coast.

    Their son was born in 1888, and she passed away about a year later.

    Lord Greystroke died a short time later.

    Upon his parents' death, the child, named John Clayton after his father, is adopted by a gray ape named "Kala." Kala's mate, "Tublat," is jealous of the child and makes his life as miserable as he can.

    By the time Tarzan, named so by Kala, is 10 years old, he has the strength of a man in his
    prime, but he is far more agile.

    He teaches himself to read and print in English, and when he is in his late teens, he encounters Caucasians.

    Tarzan is returned to civilization by the Frenchman Paul d'Arnot, and eventually marries an American, Jane Porter.

    Before Burroughs died March 19, 1950, at the age of 74, he wrote more than 20 books about Tarzan. All together, he was the author of more than 80 adventure stories.

    During the years he lived in Idaho, Burroughs was not a writer, but when he became one in later years, he did not forget this region of the country and used characters and locales from the area in his stories.

    In an article Peterson wrote about Burroughs, she quotes him as once saying he had not learned a single rule for writing fiction. "I wrote stories which I feel would entertain me, knowing that there are millions of people just like me.

    The Old Fort Boise replica in Parma is home to the Tarzan' author Edgar Rice Burroughs
    historical display. About six years ago, the display was created with the history of the
    author's life in Parma. The display also contains old Tarzan' magazines and books about the famed character Burroughs created.

    Copyright 2000 Wick Communications, Inc.

  21. no doubt that by xeeno · · Score: 2, Funny

    they'll put brendan frasier in as Deja Thoris

  22. I think it will be called "John Carter of Mars" by miracles · · Score: 2, Informative

    apparently the movie will be called John Carter of Mars.
    there's a countdown to the movie at http://www.countingdown.com/movies/johncarterofmar s

  23. Slightly, but not totally, OffTopic - Radium by Dr.Dubious+DDQ · · Score: 3, Informative
    complete with radium-powered propulsion-ray personal hovercraft[...]

    As I recall, around the time this story was written, Radium with the Spiffy New Thing. As I recall from my readings of the "Blahblahblah of Mars" series many, many years ago, I seem to recall that science-fictiony stuff throughout was "Radium powered", from guns that shot radium bullets to Radium-powered lights. In the "Real World", at the same time, Radium turned into a health(!) fad. The Museum of Questionable Medical Devices has bits and pieces related to this, including a box from the time labelled as containing Radium Suppositories (No joke!)

    The website above has a couple of pictures of other Radium related "health" things, as well as a bunch of other rather mind-boggling things...

    I hope the filmmakers KEEP the absurd "Radium" stuff in the movie, frankly (as well as any other "early-1900's sci-fi" elements of style) rather than doing something screwy to make it more "modern"...

  24. Re:Brendan Fraser - Re:got to be good by dimator · · Score: 3, Funny

    It was awesome; he could have been bigger than Brad Pitt. Lord knows he looks better and is BUILT better.

    The hell you say! Brad Pitt is way better looking, and his muscles are... wait, why do I know this... OH GOD! I'M GAY!

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  25. Bah, the PROPER way to enjoy Burroughs... by Nindalf · · Score: 2, Offtopic
  26. Niven's "Smoke Ring" world by roystgnr · · Score: 2

    Until we can cheaply send a whole bunch of actors into orbit, I can't see the "Smoke Ring" or "Integral Trees" movies being made. You could try to pull of the trees with CGI, and try to do the zero-G a few minutes a time in a thoroughly blue-screened Vomet Comet, but I'll bet the result would suck.

  27. Intraoffice Memo by gad_zuki! · · Score: 2

    Crap, looks like someone already got Burrough's Martian Tales. They signed and now we're going to lose our funding. Unless... Okay get this how about "William S. Burroughs's Tales of Martians?" We can get the option cheap. It'll interest sci-fi geeks, get in the arthouse crowd, and bring in the perverts. Lets get cracking on this. Props: I want to see a penis shaped raygun by next week. Writers: Get me a screenplay and then hire some temps to cut out sections and paste them on a whiteboard while wearing blindfolds. Make sure the final version has someone playing a flute with his ass.

    Fake name, production manager.

  28. Free Text of Princess of Mars by Argyle · · Score: 2

    Project Gutenberg has all of Burrough's works available in electronic format.

    Princess of Mars

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  29. Re:Public Domain by AndroidCat · · Score: 2

    Maybe the estate of Edgar Rice Burrough's hasn't had the senator fron Disney plugging their case until now. (Can't lose the mouse!)

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  30. 1979 Miniseries? by crow · · Score: 2

    I don't see anyone else commenting on the 1979 miniseries of the Martian Chronicles. I remember watching it at the time, and I wasn't terribly impressed. I haven't read the books, though. Does anyone else remember the miniseries?

  31. Rachel Weisse, thankyouverymuch by Skip666Kent · · Score: 2

    Thankyou VERY much indeed!

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  32. Re:mmm... by jafac · · Score: 2

    Okay then, Brad Pitt. . . with some white makeup.

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