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DIY Computer Video Microscopy For Under $50

cybrpnk writes: "The QX3 Video Microscope may have been an obscure commercial failure as an educational toy, but it is widely available (for now, at least) as a fantastic tool/toy for any geek. The QX3 hooks up to a USB port and delivers live color 10X, 60X or 200X microphotos at 512x384 pixel resolution. Its kid-friendly software even makes time lapse videos a snap, like this one of TNT synthesis - a whole new way to blow up the lab, do not try this at home! Educators are doing amazing things with the QX3 in their classrooms. Sourceforge even has documentation on the software command structure used by the QX3, so it may be considered an open source microscope. Get yours today for under $50 at surplus closeout or EBay before they're all gone!" The Toys-R-Us nearest to me has one QX3+ left (now with my name on it) at $30, so I hope it really does work under Linux. And it's a lot less complicated than building a Scanning-Tunneling microscope.

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  1. I use one of these at work... by chill · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They are great for quickly examining thick-film hybrid circuits. Much better than straining your eyes on a conventional scope when you don't have to.

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  2. Berkley CA experiment 1974? by roadhog95 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Correct me if im wrong but didnt UNBC start this project almost 30 years ago? Talk about unexpected project delays!

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  3. Linux support [mandatory] by EchoMirage · · Score: 5, Informative
    Wow, I can't believe that this is Slashdot and I'm a Windows user and yet I am posting the Linux support information. Craziness.

    First, Intel's official position on Linux support:
    Q: Do you have Linux drivers for the microscope?
    A: The microscope is not supported on Linux* platforms. Thus, Intel does not offer software or drivers for Linux.
    CPiA chipset inforrmation which the QX3 uses for its imaging. Note that there are still some problems getting everything working right. Back up your kernel.

    If none of the above works, try some more generic hacks with the CPiA driver. It seems the biggest problem is getting the lights turned on...
    1. Re:Linux support [mandatory] by 56ker · · Score: 2

      I find this article puzzling. I get mailings from BECTA (government agency in the UK to do with education of ICT) and there was one about this a while back. Intel were going on about how succesful it was at a trade show & really was one stop short of saying that people were bending over backwards to buy one. Just the way it was written by their marketing goons showed they were pretty desperate for you to buy one (this was aimed at schools). However all the schools I know are quite happy to stick with their old fashioned non-computer linked microscopes so maybe it was one last ditch attempt by them to sell their remaining stock in the U.K.

  4. Linux drivers? by Yohahn · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Anybody know if this works under linux?

    Which chipset are they using? ov511?

    Just making sure it'd work before I grab one.

  5. A$249 at Myers Melbourne by Illuminati+-9 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I wonder why Myers in Melbourne (Lonsdale St) is still selling it at A$249 (around US$125). That sounds pretty steep compared to just US$50. Oh well, generally electronics is Australia retails for much higher than their US counterparts anyway. Does anyone know why? Even GST won't inflate the prices so high. I've now resorted to buying stuff from Estore. They seem to offer the best prices i can find in Melbourne. They don't stock the QX3 though.

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  6. We do too... by No+Such+Agency · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I work in a plant growth research lab, and we bought one of these to get real time images of protoplasts (plant cells in culture). It was cheap, and produces surprisingly good-quality images. Of course, we also got a $100,000 Bausch & Lomb scope to do more "serious" work...

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  7. Proscope by Scalar by crumbz · · Score: 4, Informative

    Is an excellent alternative(granted at a higher price). For about $250 and $100 for a higher multiple lens, you can view excellent, high quality magnifications of your specimens.

    I am thinking about getting one, but want to see if higher (500x) magnification is going to be available. See www.bodelin.com for details.

    1. Re:Proscope by Scalar by Walt+Dismal · · Score: 2, Informative

      Pros and cons:
      The Proscope accepts C-mount lenses, which are readily available cheaply. But the product does not have an adjustable stage, and you do not want to handhold at x500.
      The Qx3 has only the three supplied magnifications, but DOES have a (Z-axis) adjustable stage, which is more practical.

    2. Re:Proscope by Scalar by CowbertPrime · · Score: 2

      I believe we would also have evaluated this if there were higher (400x-1000x) magnifications available for cellular resolution. The quality of the pictures from the /. link seem superb at 200x, unfortunately that isn't strong enough when dealing with cells. Meanwhile I have to cope with an outdated Imascan framegrabber connected to a camera sitting on a nikon microscope - this setup costs > $1000 nowadays, more when it was purchased 6 years ago, in addition there is no linux support for this board, etc etc.

      Unfortunately, the Intel scope was introduced into the toy market. Their CCDs seem to be good enough for actual production work. If they increased the magnification while keeping the quality, every biologist would probably have bought one - biology departments aren't funded too well when it comes to equipment, and an exceptionally cheap scope with high power that did the job would probably be preferred over a high end one that's over $5000.

  8. Biore strip.. by grub · · Score: 4, Interesting


    I've had an Intel microscope for a couple of years and took pics of a used Biore nasal strip with it. :))>
    check them out.

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    1. Re:Biore strip.. by rnd() · · Score: 2

      that is hillarious. I bet it looked like this!

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  9. low power microscopes by crisco · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Don't be thrown off by the lower magnification powers that these things have. While I haven't used one of them, I've used other low power microscopes and for general day to day use and for getting kids interested in science, a 10x to 25x microscope will probably do more for you than a 100x,400x,1000x scope would.

    Why? 10x is easier to use and you can look at all kinds of real world objects. You catch some funny looking bug and you can look at him real close up and personal like. You've got a cut on your finger healing? Nothing like seeing that filling your field of view. Now sure, at 400x you can see cells if you prepare a slide. But the real interesting stuff has to stained and prepared properly, those nice micrographs you see don't come without preparation. And you can't just stick a circuit board in there and see if you have cracked traces or cold solder joints.

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    1. Re:low power microscopes by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 2
      a 10x to 25x microscope will probably do more for you than a 100x,400x,1000x scope would.

      Back in the days when I was a hardware designer at a big corp., I really loved the stereoscopic microscopes that the technicians (and engineers in hacking mode) used for soldering work on teeny tiny surface mount components. They had brilliant built-in lighting, a huge zoom range starting from almost no magnification, a wide field of view, and the 3D effect was stunning. I spent lots of time just looking at random objects in those things.

      I'd really like to get one now, but I don't know who sells them and I'm afraid that they'd be priced in the stratosphere. If you can afford one, I highly recommend one.

    2. Re:low power microscopes by AJWM · · Score: 4, Informative

      Edmund Scientific sells a ton of this kind of stuff. Their stereo microscope page lists stuff ranging from about $150 to $1000. Take your choice.

      I recall long hours of drooling over everything in the Edmund catalog when I was a kid. Heck, their catalog (and web site) is still worth some time drooling over. So many toys, so little money, sigh...

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    3. Re:low power microscopes by crisco · · Score: 2
      We sold the Swift microscopes, something like this would be the minimum I'd reccomend, IIRC they were about $500. If you're a little more serious about it, the stuff that was priced up closer to $1000 was definately better quality.

      I'll bet the SMT rigs you mention were much better than these though, wider FOV, better depth of field and better optics.

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  10. Photo Gallery by eander315 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The National High Magnetic Field Laboratory has an excellent page dedicated to the Intel QX3, including a cool QX3 digital image photo gallery. Definitely worth a look if you're interested in what these little toys can do.

  11. I thought they were just toys... by YouAreFatMan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I was always intrigued by the microscope when I saw it in the store, but it seemed so Fisher-Price that I figured that it couldn't be all that good. The way it's packaged and marketed makes it look like some cheesy toy, not a real scientific instrument. I guess I was wrong.

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    1. Re:I thought they were just toys... by Grishnakh · · Score: 2

      Haven't you noticed? That's the way Intel markets all their stuff. Ugly blue and white color schemes, stupid aliens or blue men, crappy-looking products with crappy specs (remember the Intel digital camera?). Somehow Intel steadfastly refuses to make anything that looks serious.

  12. Intel's Developer notes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Intel has its own developer-oriented discussion of the design and development of the QX3.

    http://developer.intel.com/technology/itj/q42001 /a rticles/art_3.htm

  13. Re:IE only? Phooey! by jridley · · Score: 2

    That's funny, it looks fine to me. Mozilla 1.0 RC1 under WinXP.

  14. QX3 software includes a Twain Driver by tang_horse · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The QX3's software has an interface that can only be called bizarre, however, at least the original version (without the +) installs a Twain driver accessible by standard imaging software (e.g. Photoshop). It includes controls for the lighting and video.

  15. More QX3 Links and Info by cybrpnk · · Score: 5, Informative

    The IntelPlay site has a good QX3 FAQ as well as the product's 3/29/02 obituary. We can only hope they are clearing out stock before introducing the new improved version, but I doubt it - Intel is discontinuing ALL Intelplay toys, not just the microscope. With MTV style advertising like this it's no wonder it failed to find a continuing market niche as a classic toy - it takes longer than a 10 second attention span to do science. Some gross-out photos are here, as well as a comparison of a QX3 vs.Zeiss dissection scope as well as a comparison of the QX3 and another "inexpensive educational toy" called the Pocketscope. The main Pocketscope site talks about how to add video and lighting to their superior optics. Tinkering with, adjusting, modifying and using the QX3 is discussed here, here and here. More places to buy a QX3 before they go universally out of stock are GlobalMart, Erwincomputers, and Amazon.

    1. Re:More QX3 Links and Info by Psion · · Score: 2

      Great post! I wish I had some moderator points to throw your way, but then you've already racked up a bunch. Thanks for the links.

  16. Re:Better buy one quick, they are discontinued by Chanc_Gorkon · · Score: 2

    This is the correct link. Intel has support thru 2003. They stopped making them as of 3/29/2002.

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  17. Works fine with Linux. by AJWM · · Score: 5, Informative

    It just happens that I spent Friday afternoon finally getting my QX3 (I've had for about a year, picked up for about $50 at a supermarket (!) in an after-Xmas sale last year) running on my Linux box.

    I'm using a mostly stock SuSE 7.3 distro with the 2.4.10 kernel, the camera built into the QX3 is the same CPiA chipset that many other webcams use. I haven't done the necessary tweaking run the lamps, I just an external light. The "gqcam" program works fine for viewing/grabbing the images.

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  18. Driver Software for OS X by rbruels · · Score: 3, Informative

    The QX3 is supported in the latest versions of Macam for OS X. I have not yet experimented with the software, but have heard okay-to-good things about it.

    His CVS repository is a little outdated, so download the drivers from the web site. :)

    http://webcam-osx.sourceforge.net/

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  19. One of the benefits of having kids... by Rorschach1 · · Score: 2

    You get to buy nifty things like this for 'em. Yeah, some might argue that a two year old can't really appreciate a microscope, or a Lego Mindstorms kit, but you've got to start them early, right?

  20. Are these good for taking pictures of ants? by antdude · · Score: 2

    Live ants especially. Any recommendation for low prices for me? Thank you in advance. :)

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  21. Good luck finding these now. by Gumber · · Score: 2

    I just went to two Toys R Us stores and various consumer electronics stores. Sounds like they sold out months ago when they were dropped to the $30 quoted in the article for after-christmas closeout.

    1. Re:Good luck finding these now. by nolife · · Score: 2

      Try All Electronics. They have it online here for $40, they also have store fronts in Van Nuys and LA. I've been mail ordering stuff from this place for well over 10 years..

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  22. How to get lights to work with Linux by leighklotz · · Score: 3, Informative

    The CPIA driver works fine with it for Linux, for viewing. Unfortunately, the code to turn the lights off and on has been commented out of the driver due to a buffer overflow.

    I've got it running with the RedHat 7.3. I had to merge the driver from http://webcam.sourceforge.net with the drivers in the kernel source and recompile. I tried compiling the driver outside the tree but got bit by a bug in USB link ordering. Once you apply the updates you'll be able to use simple command-line statements to turn the lights off and on.

    If you're going to try these patches on RedHat 7.2 or on some other Linux distribution, you'll have to merge the driver on http://webcam.sourceforge.net with your distributions's driver yourself.

    For my code and images, see http://graflex.org/klotz/qx3.

    Of course, the best thing would be for the webcam.sourceforge.net people and the kernel people to resolve their differences and get the write code for /proc/cpia enabled. Until then, turning the lights on under Linux will be a DIY project.

  23. Way overpriced by HEbGb · · Score: 2

    Almost every appliance I've seen in Edmund is significantly overpriced. No big deal if you just want to grab some lenses or something, but for lasers, cameras, or microscopes, it's best to look elsewhere.

  24. Re:Slashdot bookclub by cybrpnk · · Score: 2

    Wow. Computergeeks had around 350 units in stock when the story was posted 8 hours ago or so...

  25. dude. by Artifex · · Score: 2

    I wish these had been around when I was a proto-geek kid with too much allowance...

    especially when I hit puberty and got really interested in microscopic things, if you know what I mean =)

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  26. "Pentium 4 Optimized" Ugh. by Saurentine · · Score: 2, Informative

    Can someone tell me how, under Windows, to spoof the driver into thinking I've a Pentium 4 processor?

    In the literature accompanying mine, it actually specifies that with a Pentium 4 processor, you get better resolution at higher magnifications, additional effects, and faster screen refreshes. I'm sure it's a deliberate screw up of the software if it doesn't detect a Pentium 4, (or other Intel processor, I suppose) and that pisses me off.

    In fact, I can see the artifacts that are artificially added on the screen. There's a spattering of pixels that appear "dead" on screen: they're always some obviously wrong color that's slightly "off" what you'd otherwise expect to see at that point, and the "dead" spots don't move at all when the underlying target images are moved.

    Artificially screwing up the quality of your products for AMD customers won't bring customers back, Intel! In fact, it does quite the opposite for me. Assholes.

  27. Re:Oh great - by cybrpnk · · Score: 2

    And in the hands of geeks, where they belong, instead of a landfill someplace or gathering dust in the back of a warehouse after being removed from active inventory...

  28. Re:Oh great - by cybrpnk · · Score: 2

    You can still get in there and slug it out at EBay...

  29. Re:mods to the play scope? by msouth · · Score: 2

    this site mentions modifications

    http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/optics/intelplay/int el anatomy.html

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  30. J&R Electronics Has Stock... by cybrpnk · · Score: 2

    J&R Electronics has 100+ units in stock (the salesguy wouldn't say exactly how many) as of 9:30 AM EST Monday morning for $49.88 each plus shipping of $4.95...

  31. J&R Electronics Has QX3 Stock Monday Morning by cybrpnk · · Score: 2

    J&R Electronics has 100+ units in stock (the salesguy wouldn't say exactly how many) as of 9:30 AM EST Monday morning for $49.88 each plus shipping of $4.95...

  32. Re:Oh great - by cybrpnk · · Score: 2

    Computergeeks is showing the QX3 as back in stock Monday morning for $42.50 with around 400 units available. The stock they had listed on the website went from 360 to zero yesterday.

  33. telescope use? by mattr · · Score: 2


    hmm, maybe too expensive for what you get out of it, hard to say. The site tells the truth about the hardware, saying it is less sensitive than ccd (low surface area sensitive to light), noisy (snow due to differences between pixels), and so on. But it might be neat to try and hook it up to your telescope if you already have one.. vcr image stacking software is available on the net. Anyone tried it?