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Segway Getting Real-Life Tests

EReidJ writes: "washingtonpost.com (no registration required) has an article on real-life use of the new Segway scooters, including an update on some of the safety issues and where state laws currently are with use of the Segway. (20 states have specifically passed laws to allow the Segway on sidewalks.) Interesting read."

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  1. Yeah but.... by kwishot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Those of us in the northern portion of the country are still screwed. Here in Wisconsin, these things would never work on an icy sidewalk.
    Anyone try riding a bicycle on ice?

  2. How far can you lean forward? by naoursla · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As I understand it, you move forward by leaning foward. The segway moves forward to stay underneath you which keeps you from falling over. Like walking, it is a controlled fall. But there is also a built in speed limit, so if you lean forward too far (trying to go faster) the Segway would not be able to keep up and you would keep leaning farther until your face meets the sidewalk (presumably while going around 12 mph). Does anyone know what keeps it from doing this?

    1. Re:How far can you lean forward? by emmons · · Score: 5, Funny

      It senses you trying to do it the first time and lets you fall flat on your face. After you do it once the problem mysteriously goes away. (for some people it takes more than once though- these special cases are called "morons")

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  3. Some good technical points by MobyDisk · · Score: 5, Funny
    But I like this one the best:
    "...even traveling at 12.5 miles an hour, the virtual laws of physics say they won't be able to stop on a dime."
    Could someone who knows virtual physics tell me which law relates mass, velocity, and dimes?
    1. Re:Some good technical points by Speare · · Score: 5, Funny

      The reverse is far more true, looking at the prices. A body not on a segway stays not on a segway unless presented with sufficient coinage.

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  4. Popular Science article by jimmcq · · Score: 5, Informative

    Popular Science also has an article that has a mini-interview with one of the mail carriers who put Segway through a real-life test for 30 days.

  5. Political/Marketing clout? by alouts · · Score: 5, Interesting
    After all the "No Skateboarding/Bicycling/Rollerskating" signs I have seen around various towns, why would so many cities specifically allow these things on sidewalks by passing laws saying so?

    Is it all just a load of local lobbyists pressing the city councils? It seems to me like there's enough hype/marketing here to choke a whole herd of horses.

    1. Re:Political/Marketing clout? by nurightshu · · Score: 5, Funny
      It's much safer and less stressful for everyone.

      Except for that line of 50 cars behind your bike-pedaling ass. They're all blowing veins in their foreheads because the goddamn speed limit is fucking 55 goddamn miles per hour and some SHITPOT on a fucking mountain bike is in their way when they just want to get home so they can drink a glass of bourbon and watch some Letterman, for christsakes, is that too fucking much to ask from you kids these days on your GODDAMN MOUNTAIN BIKES and your FUCKING RAZOR SCOOTERS and your DAMNED ROLLERSKATES, when all I want to do is finish my fucking commute and see if maybe I can get a piece of tang from my wife who's been all, "Oh, it's that time of the month and anyway I have a headache and feel all bloated" when I know goddamn well that her last period was only two weeks ago and there's no Playtex wrappers in the bathroom trashcan besides, and the damn kids are all whiny about how mean I'm being when I ground them because they didn't do their goddamn homework again, and then they start telling me all about how when Uncle Steve comes over during the day to visit Mommy that he's much nicer than I am, and then I have to go back into the bedroom and there's my cheating tramp of a wife on the phone -- with STEVE, Steve my best friend for nine years and I took his dog to the vet when it got hit by one of you goddamn CYCLISTS and bled all over the brand new top-grain Italian leather interior, Steve who was the best man at my wedding and helped me cover it up when Tommy Myers OD'ed at the bachelor party, and now he's on the phone with my GODDAMN WIFE and I know what I have to do, which I is why I kept my pistol all nice and clean and loaded in the first place, and when that first round explodes forth from the barrel, all pyrotechnic magic and cordite, it's like the first time I was ever with her and I couldn't control myself and it was all over before she even had her blouse unbuttoned, for christsakes, and now she's dead in a puddle of blood and I'm screaming into the phone, "Did you hear that, Steve, old buddy OLD PAL?! I'm coming for you next!"

      On second thought, maybe I'll just stay at work and put in a little overtime.

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  6. It's actually pretty safe by dfenstrate · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm a Mech-E student at the University of New Hampshire, just 40 minutes from Segway's and DEKA's headquarters, and we just had a demo here the other day by some of the engineers who work on it.

    I must say, I was impressed.

    First, if you're riding a segway at it's top speed of about 14 MPH, you can stop in about 15 feet- a runner going that fast takes about 20 feet to stop.

    Second, the junior engineer there, a year out of UNH, made a point of running over the senior engineers toes many times. No injury, he was walking around fine.

    Third, he also made a point of running into the senior engineer a number of times. Getting hit by one of those things is no worse then getting hit by someone who weighs 75 pounds more then you do.

    It turns on a dime, stops and starts quick, is highly manuevarable, and very easy to use- they let a couple of my proffessors check it out. I wouldn't have any problem sharing a sidewalk with it. It has a number of stopping, size, and manuvering advantages over roller skates and bicycles, wich aren't allowed on most sidewalks.

    That being said, it looks like an amusing toy with some very good aplications, but I don't think it's going to revolutionize transportation outside of a few circles.

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  7. Re:Segways are too dangerous to be on the sidewalk by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They seem dangerous to me too, but not as dangerous as moutain bikes. For one thing, this seems more like a 'stop and go' vehicle as opposed to a 'go and prepare to slow down' vehicle like a mountain bike. Slowing down for a turn, for example, is no big deal. The Segway can just pivot, unlike a bike.

    Being electrical vs. pedaled means that somebody piloting one of these machines is less likely to value their constant speed. A bicyclist has to start pedalling again after slowing down to make up for lost momentum. I think this is the cause of some unnecessarily risks/maneuvers.

    Again, I'm not saying that it's totally safe, I'm just saying it's different enough that it's possible that it'd be allowed. Personally, though, I think sidewalk travel with these devices should be capped to roughly the speed of soembody walking past. If they were to implant the proper indicator on the housing, one could be fined for going too fast on a sidewalk. (i.e. put a light that turns on when the device goes faster than x mph.)

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  8. My first thought was the snow. by systemaster · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Even in milwaukee where you are required to shovel within 24 hrs...there are still places with to much snow for a segway, look at it, it has almost no ground clearance. The tires a large enough that tall bumbs, think like speed bumb, may not be a problem. But snow or tall grass, even with rock hard dirt, would be a problem.
    I would counter your thought of a bike on ice...the way the segway works with gyros(I think, never looked at tech specs of it) it might behave better on ice than a bike...it also has a much lower center of gravity, which would also help on ice. Don't get me wrong, I don't think it would be really usable on ice, but I bet it would be better than a traditional bike.

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  9. Sinclair C5 by gwernol · · Score: 5, Funny

    Here is the spiritual predecessor of the Segway, the Sinclair C5. First sold in January 1985 this one-person electric vehicle cost less than $500 and was still an absolute commercial disaster.

    Although superficially very different, the C5 and the Segway try to solve similar problems of personal mobility without being a car or motorbike. The Segway is undoubtably more advanced (and several times the price) but like the C5 is: small (one person, no luggage), exposed, slow and makes you look like a dork.

    I'm not sure I see why the Segway won't go the same way as the C5. I certainly wouldn't buy any stock in Segway.

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  10. I wonder who will be the first to... by bluelarva · · Score: 5, Funny

    get run over by a car while riding on segway.

    "overclock" it to do 60 mph.

    put a really large tires and ride over other segway crushing it.

    dissect it and puts it's pictures of it's guts online and get slashdotted.

    have their segway malfunction and end up doing a cartwheel on a steep sidewalk.

    do all sort of cool tricks with it like a freestyle bike.

    fall off the thing and get hurt and decides to sue Dean Kamen.

    ride segway while drunk as a skunk and get charged with DWI.

    have their segway run out of battery on the side of the road and have to call AAA to tow it.

    hit a pedestrian.

    hit a pedestrian and run off.

    have their segway tiretracks link them to a crime they committed.

    find their segway minus wheels sitting on concrete blocks on the side of the road.

    steal it.

    get caught trying to steal it.

    track down a stolen segway by using hidden GPS.

    strap a jet rocket and attempt to break segway land speed record.

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  11. We'll approve it and subsidise your wages bill by Mandelbrute · · Score: 5, Insightful
    From the article:
    Ronald Medford, the staff member who made these suggestions, has taken a government-approved sabbatical to work for Kamen's firm, DEKA Research & Development Corp., which created Segway. Medford is the "in-house critic and adviser, having nothing to do with sales and marketing, but only telling us what to do to make products safe," said Gary Bridge, Segway's senior vice president of marketing. To avoid conflict of interest, Bridge said, the government continues to pay Medford's salary ($138,200 a year) and Medford has promised to recuse himself from any product decisions involving DEKA and Segway when he returns to the CPSC later this year.
    So he worked on the approval process, is now working exclusively on the product he approved, and the government (not the company he is working for) is paying his salary. Does anyone else have problems with this? In a lot of places something like this would be looked at carefully to see whether there were job offers during the approval process or other signs of bribery (with the government being stupid enough to pay the bribe). He's not being paid to do his job, he's being paid to be a DEKA employee (his orders longer come from the government)- so DEKA should pay for him.