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Jordan Hubbard Resigns from FreeBSD Core

Posted by timothy on from the well-deserved dept.

SteelX was one of many readers to cite this story in the Daily Daemon News which reports that "Jordan Hubbard is resigning from the FreeBSD core. Jordan is a founding member of the FreeBSD project." Note: According to this email, Hubbard is definitely not quitting FreeBSD; he's just changing the nature of his involvement with it.

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  1. I'm just not having any fun, really... by JordanH · · Score: 0, Interesting
    I think the article says it all. I'm really not having any fun anymore. Thanks for all your encouragement through the years.

    Wait, I'm not Jordan Hubbard... Not even the same middle initial. What was I thinking? Uhh, never mind.

  2. Sorry to see him go... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Hubbard has done a lot to make FreeBSD exist in the
    form he does today. The rest of the core team
    is really strong, but clearly his involvement
    will be missed. An interesting question for the
    Linux side of things will be how long some of their
    mainstays (Torvalds, Cox, et al) will hang in.
    Everyone needs a change of direction sometime--
    no one expects these people to want to do the same
    thing for the rest of their lives, and it would
    be unrealistic to do so.

  3. A question for freebsd people by Burgundy+Advocate · · Score: 0, Interesting

    I have quite a bit of experience in the linux community. I remember way back when, installing Redhat 5.0 and struggling to get it to work, and work at all decently. I remember when Gnome 1.0 came out, leaving coredumps all over your desktop (I'm just glad it got better). I remember when Mozilla went open-source, and when the Gimp decided to break the standards and create it's own toolkit. I used to read FreshMeat and marvel at all the new, cool projects that would come out.

    However, I see very little projects from the FreeBSD community. Of course there's the occasional release of version 3.2 or whatever, but that's about it. No cool software for it.

    So, my question is this: why the lack of enthusiasm? Hubbard resigning is just the latest sympton I've noticed. Is it because of the controlled development model? Is it because of the poor quality of development tools? Is it because there's no companies involved?

    It seems to me that without a little more enthusiasm, FreeBSD won't go anywhere. If you want to give Linux a run for it's money, you can't just sit on your butt.

    --
    Dragging people kicking and screaming into reality since 1996.
    1. Re:A question for freebsd people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting
      I think in his heart Jordan knows that FreeBSD is starting to decline. He has made off the record comments suggesting that. Take a look at the development tools. If you remove the GNU tools from consideration, there are almost no development tools available for FreeBSD. Ever try to get a *good* C++ compiler for FreeBSD? No can do. I tried because I had a client who was interested in me porting one of his projects to FreeBSD, but I couldn't find a decent C++ compiler. Heck, even Linux has second source development tools so you aren't tied to GCC and kin.

      If you are honest you will have to accept that FreeBSD has no significant third party support. Native state of the art development tools are not available. Windows, Solaris, Linux, and just about everyone else has more tool suppot to offer the developer. There really isn't enough tool support in FreeBSD for myself and others to make it worth our effort.

  4. Re:Really. Thanks jkh. by siliconinc.net · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Over the last few years of contracts and ISP migrations, Ive built somewhere in the neighborhood of 200 fbsd machines. I still have maintenance retainers on a lot of them, and spend less time working on them than I do the handful of windows and redhat machines I have to deal with now. Its quite possibly the most stable OS (with the possible exception of IRIX) Ive ever dealt with. Big thanks for jkh for making it all possible, and saving me from a few late night support calls.

    Anyone know how we could send jkh a nice case of beer and a pizza in return for the great work?