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Font Company Wielding DMCA Against Bit-Flipping

Roundeye writes: "Seems that AGFA Monotype is trying to stop Tom Murphy from distributing his embed tool. According to the lawyers, the pair of bits in a TrueType font which specify how a font should be embedded constitute a DMCA-worthy access control device. Tom's standing up to them because, 'Embedding bits do nothing to keep consumers from copying fonts' and 'Since the enactment of the DMCA, I have only ever run embed on fonts for which I own the copyright." He's even got his own haiku version of the software..."

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  1. Unspecified bit... by chill · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Soon any "undefined/future use" bits on a devices will be retroactively defined as access/copyright control and used as an excuse to sue thru DMCA.

    Sad.

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  2. Fontographer by ZiZ · · Score: 5, Interesting
    He used Fontographer to create these fonts, a program which allows you to (while editing a font) set or reset the embedding bits. Does this imply that, under the DMCA, any (nominally) legal content-creation program can be ruled unlawful if it has the ability to read a file instead of merely write a file?

    Say goodbye to saving your work in the middle and coming back to it. Say goodbye, potentially, to backup software, since adding registry keys post-installation may be involved in copy control, and backup software would bypass that. Say goodbye to...well...computers. (Not that this hasn't been said before elsewhere, but...)

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  3. In Other News by shepd · · Score: 5, Funny

    Non-Parity memory outlawed due to the risk of alpha particles bit flipping true-type fonts!

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    1. Re:In Other News by steve_l · · Score: 5, Funny

      also, Ansi C++ 2002 draft released; xor "^" opcode removed after DMCA threats due to its potential use in bit-flipping and decryption algorithms. Future versions of the x86 product line will be changed to make the xor opcode a ring-0 instruction only, not for use by unapproved applications.

  4. Microsoft Explanation ... Good Reading by pgrote · · Score: 5, Informative

    This raises a great point about the DCMA. If I have a company that produces a tool to help me create products I am ok. Now, if my tool is used by others to circumvent what they call protection am I liable?

    In this case preventing someone from embedding a font doesn't protect the font. The font can easily be included with the document. This is nuts.

    The embedding bits were orginally designed to make things easier for people to *distribute* fonts, not impede the distribution.

    Check out this from Microsoft:

    http://www.microsoft.com/typography/embed/embed2 .h tm

    The best quote:

    "Most foundries and type designers set the embedding level of their fonts to Editable embedding allowed or Print & Preview embedding allowed. However, a few foundries set the embedding level to No embedding allowed. If you feel that embedding technology has a place within your organization, be sure to ask the type vendor about it before you part with any money."

  5. Let AGFA Monotype know how you feel! by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Interesting

    They have a web form you can fil out here:

    AGFA's Web form.

    When they get bombarded with emails, they'll know that they're under the public eye. If this goes to court, I may be willing to donate a few dollars to assist ith legal fees.

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  6. Yikes, well, here we go... by Tom7 · · Score: 5, Informative
    Well, I didn't really want this to get onto slashdot unless they threatened me any more, but, I guess I can't control the internet. ;)

    Anyway, in case you're curious, I've been pushing their buttons a little bit, with the help of Dave Touretzky , and my current guess is that they have given up on me. (I haven't heard back since the letter I sent them that's on that page.) But I will be happy to go to court over this retarded case, and the EFF has informally offered to help if I do. ( Donate! )

    In case you're interested, my fonts, which I've been making since 1993 (and which are free for you to use for practically anything) are at fonts.tom7.com .

  7. OFFS by mizhi · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh For Fuck's Sake.

    What about hex-editors then?

    What about sed? I'll be you could come up with a nifty program to twiddle some bits in the same manner.

    And for those lawyers, I've got a couple of bits they can twiddle; my balls.

    I hope Tom wins.

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  8. Timing? by Kraegar · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I'm not big on law info, so I must raise the following question...

    Tom wrote "embed" in 1997, as stated in his emails. DMCA went into the books in 1998. So he wrote the program before the law even existed... How can you break a law before it's a law?

    This guy has some really good points, this just appears to be another case of a corporation using the vaguely worded DMCA to try and push someone around. How's that saying go? "If you can't make a good product, sue someone that has"?

  9. leverage Slashdot for legal expenses by abde · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Everytime we see an example of the little guy getting threatened by the Big Evil, we Slashdotters have an orgy of analysis and in the end do absolutely nothing. Appeals to donate to the EFF are roundly issued but how many bother?

    What Slashdot needs to do is have a Fund set up - basically, an Amazon click-to-pay or PayPal (or both) account setup on the front page. It shoudl be preset for $1 donations. Every time we have a YRO post on slashdot frontpage, the donate buttons shoudl be inserted into the comments page.

    The idea is, make it EASY to donate, makie it quick, make the links impossible to miss and always appear in correct context. If I had such a link infront of me right now I'd click it.

    Every time we see a case like this, we set up a fund and channel funds to the poor guy. And maybe Slashdot could channel a matching percentage to the EFF as a donation from teh advertising revenue.

    There has to be a way to leverage the huge community numbers here into actual tangible pressure - and money is the best way.

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  10. Re:wow! by dreamword · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is not a case of "you can't do what you want to your own fonts".

    Rather, this is a case of "while you can do what you want with your own fonts, you can't distribute a tool to let other people do what they want to their fonts without writing their own software".

    It's still wrong and still probably outside the scope of the DMCA, but not quite as bleak as you state.

  11. Re:Don't want customers copying fonts? by Lysander+Luddite · · Score: 5, Informative

    You obviously don't work in the design field do you?

    Fonts aren't "freely distributed" in most cases. Fonts usually do accompany a piece sent to the printer to ensure the printer can reproduce the typeface in the design. But the printer must remove the fonts from their system if they do not have rights to them. Fonts you see in print are nearly always copyrighted due to the demanding nature of making a good, legible and proper typeface.

    Check out this book.

  12. Did you read my response? by Tom7 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Did you read my response?

    In order for embed to be covered by the DMCA, the program has to be primarily designed for circumvention. Circumvention only occurs when the act is without the authority of the copyright holder. In this case, I am the copyright holder, so of course I grant myself authority to modify the bits!

    (There are several other reasons why their argument doesn't hold that I give, but this is the strongest...) I think their legal argument is faulty.

  13. No -- "primarily designed" for circumvention by Tom7 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Probably not. A device has to be primarily designed for the purpose of circumvention, or marketed for circumvention.

    Most importantly, though, "circumvention" only occurs if it is done without the authority of the copyright holder. If a format is open, and therefore many people (including the author of the program, perhaps) have reason to modify their works with the program, they of course have authority -- so it would be hard to argue that the device is designed "primarily" for circumvention. That's my main argument for this Embed thing.

    Perhaps that is the real downfall of the DMCA...?

  14. Re:mirror? by Tom7 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't mind. It's also in the public domain, so I can't stop you.
    But, it's important that you are not acting in concert with me -- your actions are independent. (That also of course makes it harder for them to use legal measures to get it taken down.)

    Writing new programs that do the same thing would also make it quite annoying for them...

  15. Newsflash! by kaladorn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's like outlawing guns because someone might get shot!

    Isn't that what they've been doing gradually for the past few years now?

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  16. Doing something about it NOW -- easy! by SysKoll · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, this calls for action. This clueless lawyer is probably going to get an order from a kangaroo court, maybe from Kaplan, the judge who ruled that publishing a link on 2600.org was an act of DVD piracy. If this happens, Tom Murphy is going to face huge legal costs.

    Since this is really bothering me a lot, I went to EFF's site and made a small donation. Come on, do it now! Do something for your rights now!

    If the EFF starts getting donations each time these bozos fling the DMCA around, then maybe they'll understand.

    Do you feel safe? Huh uh. Want to admire the handywork of Lewis Kaplan against your right to put a link (a freakin' link!) into your web site? Feel free to bask in his wisdom.

    Got the message? Donate now.

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  17. Aladdin foresaw this by Dave+Scherer · · Score: 5, Informative

    I searched the copyright office's web site for "fonts" and stumbled across this letter:

    http://www.loc.gov/copyright/1201/comments/004.p df

    It's a comment submitted by Aladdin Enterprises (the makers of ghostscript) during the Copyright Office's review of the DMCA two years ago. It addresses almost exactly the current situation:

    "...There is, in fact, a commercially important situation where this is currently the case. A software package called Fontographer is used very widely for creating TrueType font files. A bug in Fontographer causes it to improperly mark the fonts it produces in a way that causes certain other widely used software packages to consider that the font may not be embedded in documents that use the font. This incorrect marking happens by default, contrary to the wishes of the font author. The authors of Fontographer have been unresponsive to users and authors and have not fixed this problem. Thus a situation has been created where the author of the font wishes to allow users to embed it, but users who remove the protection marking (which is extremely simple technically -- it involves changing one easily-located bit in the font) will be in violation of the law."

  18. Richard Stallman as visionary, not crazy by statusbar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Who would have thought that Richard Stallman was correct all these years regarding free-as-in-speech software? How many of you just thought he was a paranoid lunatic?

    From The Right To Read:

    • Dan would later learn that there was a time when anyone could have debugging tools. There were even free debugging tools available on CD or downloadable over the net. But ordinary users started using them to bypass copyright monitors, and eventually a judge ruled that this had become their principal use in actual practice. This meant they were illegal; the debuggers' developers were sent to prison.
    • ... In 2047, Frank was in prison, not for pirate reading, but for possessing a debugger.

    --Jeff++
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