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Jordan Hubbard moves to new OpenDarwin.org
bootc writes "Last week we heard the news that Jordan Hubbard was leaving the FreeBSD Core Team. I received an email about the new OpenDarwin.org web site and had a look around, just to find that our friend Jordan was member of the OpenDarwin Core Team!" Apple has consolidated its Open Source web site, including Darwin, under its developer site, while the Internet Software Consortium is hosting the independent OpenDarwin.org, which will develop OpenDarwin with the developer community and collaborate with Apple to merge OpenDarwin technologies into Darwin and Mac OS X.
I'm not sure if you are serious about this. Darwin has been running on x86 since day one!
Read about it here
IMHO, it's the lack of a good desktop (KDE is OK) that's keeping *nix from becoming the premiere desktop and Aqua could help a lot.
I seriously doubt Apple will ever release Aqua, there are too many advantages to keeping it in house, the biggest reason being control. Apple is primarily a hardware company and they, like Sun, use software to sell thier hardware. If Aqua were released to an open source license, it would be ported to other platforms, at which point at least one reason for buying an Apple system is gone. Who would spend $1800 on an iMac when you could get similar functions from a $800 Celeron system.
I personally think we may, in the future see some x86 OEM do something similar with Linux. Have an open source core (command line only), with a proprietary GUI on top (only sold and supported with thier hardware, no retail version), but make it easy to run X Windows concurently in rootless mode, so all the hardcore Linux users can still use thier favorite programs. I suspect someone could sell alot of hardware this way, if done right and done well.
"Our products just aren't engineered for security,"
-Brian Valentine,VP in charge of MS Windows Development
We have Aqua. Or about 95% of the look. (Not the underlying technology, but then, does it matter?) Want it? First, use KDE. I say this because I know that there is an Aqua window decoration theme that has translucent unfocused titlebars. If there's a Sawfish window decoration with similar capabilities, speak up. Next, get Aqua themes for KDE and GNOME/GTK. You may have to tweak them a bit so that they are identical, but that shouldn't be too difficult. Grab some OSX icons off the net, play with KDE's kicker until it looks like the dock, and you've got Aqua!
Of course, if you really wanted to be clever, you could patch the kicker source code to get that "bouncing icon" effect that OSX has. If you want to be even more clever, you can patch KDE so that window menus are displayed in the desktop menu, thus giving you that genuine Mac experience. (This might already be the case in KDE3; I'm still running 2.2.)
:Peter
What? No one's forcing Apple to contribute back to BSD. If they wanted to, they could keep all the changes to themselves. It's not like FreeBSD is licensed under the GPL or another viral license.
- Aqua depends on the Quartz rendering layer (Display PDF)
- Apple developed Quartz (Display PDF) in-house specifically in order to avoid paying licensing fees to Adobe like Next was for Display postscript
- The PDF spec is open for anyone else to develop their own implementation, just like Apple did
- Apple's implementation of Display PDF is apparently fairly MacOS X-specific and while chunks of it could likely be retargetted it's supposedly not a candidate for a direct port
- Apple considers the Aqua GUI their trade dress and are quite vigorous about defending it
So, instead of whining at Apple to give away their goodies how about actually supporting the projects out there with the same aims? And instead of looking to rip-off their interface howzabout showing some initiative and coming up with a distinct sperate one - goodness knows there's enough folks happy to criticize the Aqua GUI.When did Open Source become gimme gimme gimme?
I don't read ACs: If a post isn't worth so much as a nom de plume to its author then I wont bother either.
Don't believe me? Check out these screenshots:
GNUMail on Linux/GNUStep
GNUMail under Aqua/MacOS X
Don't write off GNUStep just because they haven't reached the popularity of KDE or GNOME. I think that with Apple's dominance in the UNIX market place, that we may see GNUStep become increasingly important.
-Peter
. Penguins Surely Ca
For those sorry lot amongst you who don't use OS X, perhaps you should look into the GNUstep project and help them out.
The more done this project is, the more likely you'll see Mac OS X Cocoa developers compiling GNUstep stuff for the Linux folks. If the GNUstep folks so far, Apple might be willing to start open sourcing bits and components of their GUI.
I was one of the ones that wondered why the GNUstep folks even bothered, but who's piping down now?
In any case, I don't bother, I use OS X already.
Huh? There's never any fees though and you can have as many accounts as you want. Your statement is like saying you effectively pay for "free" Linux when you buy an x86 machine.
No -- the point is the very real costs of maintaining the ftp servers are paid by Apple out of its income. Transparent ftp connectivity is already part of KDE, the problem is that there can be no centralized server without *somebody* paying for it.
Ah, another troll...
Just for the record, the article's first paragraph actually states:
"Welcome to Security Alerts, an overview of recent Unix and open source security advisories. In this column, we look at buffer overflows in OpenSSH, Squid, Listar/Ecartis, slrnpull, and IRIX's syslogd; problems in Sudo, MHonArc, and Mosix; and a local root hole and denial-of-service attack vulnerability in FreeBSD."
Of these, the only issues that are FreeBSD issues as opposed to issues in theird party software are the IO descriptors and syncache/syncookies problems. The others would almost certainly apply to any unix they were run upon, with the obvious exception of IRIX syslogd - and IRIX is a SysV implementation...
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You can go off and write your own C# tools anytime you like. As long as you conform to the ECMA documents, you can claim that your tool deals with C#. Micorosft invented it but does not own it.