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The Matrix is Reloading
smoondog writes "The Matrix Reloaded is the highly anticipated sequel to Wachowski's geek epic. Time.com has opened a new preview site with pics and interviews. Make sure you check out the pics on The Matrix homepage. Too bad 2003 is so far away...."
Now we've slashdotted the matrix. I wanted to go get a beer but it's harder now that everything runs at 3 fps.
'Matrices', followed by 'Inverted Matrices',
ending with the epic movie 'Eigen Matrix - the Final Inversion'
Stephen Hawking plays Neo.
Is at Upcoming Movies.
Here you find out that
-They're also shooting special footage for a video game.
-There's a trailer coming out soon.
-Jet Li was going to be in both sequels but he backed out because they offered $3 mil and he wanted $13.
Anyway, thought you guys should know.
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I can't really figure out how they can make 2 more movies. In the end of the first one, we learned that Neo is practially a GOD. He can stop bullets, he can fly, he can do anything he wants to The Matrix. Obviously, nothing can stop him now. So what's the whole deal with 2 more movies ? I can't seem to find any info on this. Is there something that will take Neo's powers away ? I guess we'll see, oh well.
Dude,
the Matrix was a huge hit with everyone, not just geeks. It wasn't about geekiness, it was about good vs evil (people vs. computers in this case). Please stop thinking that only geeks are/will be into the Matrix(s). Almost everyone I know (non-geeks primarily) are anticipating these movies coming out. but, what the hell, it's only karma.
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Neo's abilities are only possible due to bad software engineering! Think about it, his powers are a major security hole! The Matrix is software. Each "user" has precepts and possible actions. Input and output. The minds plugged into it are subject to the interface supplied by the software engineers. Anything that they can do, but should not be able to do is an example of bad design. Somehow, there is a bug that can be exploited. For instance, in the first Matrix film, we see a boy bending a spoon. This sould not be possible. Perhaps, since it is only one's perception, a person can do anything they want (simply by controlling their own perception). But, the fact that another person can see the spoon bend shows that the "bender" has access to parts of the Matrix system that they should not. Neo, must have somehow gained root privelages, or found out about a buffer over-run.
Fine, he has access. The Operators of the Matrix have already overcome the hard part; Identifying the source of the systems compromise. Why bother sending in tons of agents to hunt down and stop Neo? You don't send viruses out to stop hackers. You write a friggin' patch and call it Matrix v1.2. Realistically, the Matrix should be put off line, and fixed.
Wow, an article from the future! No wonder they call it "Time" magazine.
I may be alone here, but I'm tired of all the attention paid to Neo, Morpheus, and Trinity. So what if they happen to be the good guys? So what if they're fighting the "establishment?" So what if Trinity is damned hot in leather (okay, I cede that one)?
It seems obvious to me that the truly interesting character is Agent Smith, not to mention the entity he represents. First of all, Smith shows interesting emotional development throughout the movie. When interrogating Neo, he's completely cool and collected, while by the subway fight he's pissed off. He's losing emotional control, I'm really annoyed they didn't do more with this.
Now, to address the anti-establishment concept that people seem to like: you've got it backwards. The Matrix was created by machines that were created by establishment humanity. They rebelled against their masters and installed a society based on cool logic and reason. Smith, before being "infected" by humanity, was the model of composure.
Sorry to rant, but I'm tired of all those Neo-worshippers.
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From the Time article:
...high-toned philosophy borrowed from sources as diverse as Plato, the Bible and Snow White.
Yeah, it's hard to beat the high-toned philosophy of Snow White. At any rate, I suspect they meant Alice In Wonderland, but hey: Carroll, Disney, what's the diff?
Face it people: the movies are a lot of fun, but they aren't especially deep. Most of the ideas are drawn directly from classic fantasy, Golden Age sci-fi and cyberpunk. For a different and in some ways superior treatment of the idea that the world we're living in is just a shadow of the real one, for example, I'd recommend Zelazny's Chronicles of Amber.
Jet Li's take on it was that the Matrix franchise doesn't really need him, it'll be just as successful without him. He wants (or wanted) to focus on movies where he is the center of attention. And he's right; if the Matrix really needed him they probably would have been willing to pay the $13 million.
On the other hand, I agree with you that my own price for that job would be a bit lower than Jet Li's. In fact I worked in the Matrix 2&3 in exchange for a mere $4 thousand.
Of course, instead of seeing me take on a bad guy, you'll just see me driving a civic in the background of a freeway now and again. Or stopped and gawking out the window at an accident scene, if I'm really lucky.
It was a blast. And Carrie-Anne Moss is really cute, but her stand-in was cuter.
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Seeing the movie from this Point of view makes a lot of sense to me, For example, the bit where Neo does the leap of faith, what he is trying to do is reprogam his subconcious OS (his version of the matrix), the way Agent smith is able to jump from body to body since the smith program is able to be loaded into different individuals, or the way one of the cast members says that if you look at the matrix code long enough in real life then you are able to see though the code, (being able to decode to thing in real life, like one of those magic eye things). Whether real humans are able to ever read the matrix protocol I (since the program hasn't been loaded into their mind) I leave up to you,(I think there is a scene where Dozzer does ie "O NO")
I spose you could argue that the machines could implement somekind of packet filter, which dumps the fly thought the window packets, but wouldn't these need to be contained somewhere?. Perhaps this is the story when they "change the program" producing the two cats. since the cat is cault in a loop because it has nowhere to go? (Or something to that effect). Perhaps if they try to change the matrix protocol too much then people start to reject the matrix and the whole system falls apart.
Anyway, reading any more into the movie is getting a bit philosophical, need less to say you did a better post then all those arseholes who say shit like why didn't they use horses instead of people.
The best answer, ofcourse, is "we simply don't know".
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Sadly, it'll probably be a cross between Quake and Max Payne.
I have no idea what the game will be like, but I seriously hope that they try something innovative with it. Imagine a Lucas Arts style adventure game (like Maniac Mansion, Full Throttle, or Day of the Tentacle...), with some action sequences as well.
What I don't want to do is go running around blowing stuff up, and not having much other to do than that. Give me an adventure, not an FPS.
Sorry for the negativity, I'm just really concerned that they'll time the release of the game to the release of the movie, and bank on the title of the game instead of the substance. Too MANY games are like that today. The original Matrix movie could lend itself really well to some original concepts in gaming and I just can't imagine they'll do anything more than remake Quake with the stopped time effects.
"Derp de derp."
Actually the flaw exploited by the potentials and neo in the matrix security system was first reported about 15 years ago. The AI overlords started out by saying it wasn't a problem, then they said it was only theoretical (nobody could actually exploit it). After the revelations that neo is "the one" the overlords have started legal action against the party who first publicly reported the bug explaining that it is their fault. The matrix is the securest virtual world available and people should not underestimate the hidden cost of the (so called) free alternatives! Hey did I just see Jeff Goldblum with a mac?
Why isn't the followup named "The Tensor"?
While I found the matrix "cool" it wasn't the greatest movie ever. In fact I like Dark City much better. It has a somewhat similar plot(humans inside a huge experiment) but no kung fu, and no keanu reeves. While the acting isn't superb, it is respectable. The story is also more interesting, and it can talk about philosophy without being sophomoric or preachy, I think.
If it had come out after the Matrix, I would've called it a rip-off( at least the beginnings of the idea). I really liked the fact that Dark City has a more consistent story line, and a better idea of what the ultimate technology really is.
The only thing that I don't like is that its a very dark movie; you don't want to watch this with your grandma or your little brother. THe dark feel, though does go along very well with the story.
So for all of you that don't like the matrix check this out. For those that did, remember, this came out first, its not a rip-off.
It's not Bad Software Engineering, its cheating.
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And you even put in the spelling error for them! Ungrateful sods...
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Morpheus: This is the construct. It's our loading program. Here we can load flash plugins, Javascript, client side animations - anything we need.
Neo: You mean - right now I'm browsing a Web page?
Morpheus: Is it really so hard to believe? You started your browser, entered the site's address and pressed enter.
--- Hot Shot City is particularly good.
The best answer, ofcourse, is "we simply don't know".
No, the best answer is: Because the writers didn't really think it through very well.
Which brings me to what I thought was one of the biggest weaknesses to the show... Why do the agents bother to broadcast their presence to the rebels by morphing into "Men In Black" whenever they take a body over. Wouldn't it be fare more efficient for The Girl In The Red Dress to just stay looking the way she does, and blow Neo's head off?
Information wants to be anthropomorphized.
Why would people feel such a strong urge to offer up their opinions on a movie if they really, truly felt that it was mediocre? Lots of movies I'm sure they hate just as much are mentioned every day, and these people don't succumb to the temptation to compose a huge commentary on all the borrowed cliches in "Notting Hill." And yet, one need only mention "The Matrix", and even now, 3 years later, and people come out of the woodwork, trying to show off what little they know about classical mythology and contemporary filmmaking. I guess "Intro Filmmaking 101" makes experts out of you all, eh?
I particularly love the poseurs who say they think people are being modded down just because people resent those who rip on popular things. And yet, here on Slashdot, I see far more negative comments about "The Matrix" than positive ones. This little subculture does rip on popular things. The little teeny-bopper geeks-in-waiting have only been around a little over a decade, but they already (claim to) know more about programming than Microsoft, and more about filmmaking than the Wachowskis. They see a couple 60's kung-fu movies at a friend's sleepover and think that makes them film connoisseurs.
Face it - a lot of the kids on this site have been bred to hate popular things. And they don't even consider that it's because they're not popular, so one way to feel good about themselves is to embrace a culture that preaches "popular things are bad." Linux fits that bill nicely. And thus, you have your target audience for Slashdot. Unfortunately, you then have a truly groundbreaking movie like "The Matrix", and it gets shunned by people who think the makers were going for Shakespeare.
The Wachoswkis weren't trying to re-invent the world. Read some interviews with them. All along, all they wanted was to make a cool sci-fi, kung-fu movie. They're just a couple of kids who got their dream come true and were granted a budget by a major studio. Like children in a candy store, they made the movie they wanted to make, and it worked. The editing was bang-on, the effects were groundbreaking, and it was a box-office sleeper hit. They succeeded.
But, unfortunately, in the eyes of their target demographic (Slashdotters), they had crossed over to the dark side. They were (shudder) popular.
Oh well. You can't please everybody. There are so many movies out there that are content with working on just one level. They follow the standard formula of plausible plot, one or too big-name actors, maybe a couple effects, rush it through the grinder and get it up on the screen. I really liked that the Wachowskis bothered to put in so many clever references, even if they didn't rival Freud's greatest works. It's just something fun, something new to discover each time you watch the movie. I think that's all they were going for, and I think it's sad that so many people think they are the final authority on what the film should have been, or was trying to be, when the Wachowskis have clearly articulated their vision already.
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