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Peruvian Congressman vs. Microsoft FUD

An Anonymous Coward writes: "Carve a new face on the Mount Rushmore of Linux: Peruvian Congressman David Villanueva Nuñez brilliantly vapourizes the Chicken Little division of the MS Fud Machine. Long read but inspiring. Add another name to the list of people who get that 'All that is required for Evil to triumph is that good men do nothing.'" Update: 05/07 00:03 GMT by T : Antonio Ognio Cesti has an update: "We are some activists working here in Peru to bring the documents to more eyeballs with better bandwidth." They've done just that, writing, "Now we have much better hosting in the U.S. and the original FUD letter completely translated into English."

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  1. Re:Cut timothy some slack by Lonath · · Score: 3, Informative

    The difference is that I get +2 Funny karma (as of this posting) for saying "This was posted on Saturday." with some humor instead of -2 Redundant karma for just stating it blandly. Of course now that I have stupidly revealed my master plan, I will lose lots of karma from both of these posts. :)

  2. He didn't write it in English... by Otto · · Score: 5, Informative

    It was translated. The links to the original versions are at the very top of the article.

    Unfortunately, the links are down, so, google cache time!

    Original Response

    Original Microsoft FUD Letter

    Both are in Spanish, BTW.

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    - Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set him on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
  3. Already happened by drew_kime · · Score: 3, Informative

    From PBS Frontline:


    The California case in point began with a chemical -- MTBE -- that was added to gasoline to help the state clean up its air. But MTBE was found to cause cancer in laboratory animals. And in 1995, it began to show up in drinking water.

    ...

    Chapter 11 is only one provision in the 555-page North American Free Trade Agreement -- negotiated to promote business among the US, Canada and Mexico. It was supposedly written to protect investors if foreign governments tried to seize their property.

    But corporations have stretched NAFTA's Chapter 11 to undermine environmental decisions -- the decisions of local communities -- even the verdict of an American jury. The cases brought so far total almost four billion dollars.

    Under the terms of NAFTA, an environmental regulation is regarded as a "taking" and the state may have to pay a huge settlement to the manufacturer.

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    Nope, no sig
  4. Re:Excellent article by caduguid · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sunday was a great day for reading intelligent and insightful commentary on Free Software and Copyleft.

    First, I got up to read the letter mentioned here. (Was that really the congressman who penned that?? Wow. In any event, what a very nice read.)

    Next, I go to the bookstore and stumble across:
    Free, as in Speech and Beer, absolutey without peer as the _best_ most insightful book on copyleft and free software and its implications that I have yet read.
    (And I've read a bunch of them.)

    The strangest thing: I'd never even heard of it. It was just sitting there on the new releases.

    Read the letter above, then go and buy the book, too. On both counts you will be pleasantly surprised at the quality of discourse taking place on the topics we all care about. (Something you don't always get from /. comments.)

    The book doesn't appear to be at Amazon yet, but what the hey... Canadian dollars are cheap! (The link above is to the Canadian equivalent of Amazon/B&N)

  5. Re:What was Microsoft's conviction in Nanterre abo by foeclan · · Score: 3, Informative

    (What did we do before google? ;)

    http://www.pcworldmalta.com/specials/MSPiracy

    PARIS (11/28/2001) - The French subsidiary of one of the world's most vocal opponents of software piracy has itself been convicted of pirating a French 3D animation program. This is the first ruling on a matter that dates back to 1995, when Microsoft Corp. bought Softimage, a 3D computer-generated image (CGI) specialist whose software violated the intellectual property of a small French software house.

    The Commercial Court of Nanterre fined Microsoft France 3 million francs (US$422,000) in damage and interest for software piracy. "It's a start," said a lawyer for the plaintiffs, "although Microsoft continues to stall on the provisional execution of the judgment."

  6. Here's the info, folks..... by Mr_Bethesda · · Score: 5, Informative

    Some fact-checking shows the following:

    Congressman Edgar David Villanueva Nunez (www.congreso.gob.pe/congresista/2001/evillanueva. htm) is a real member of the Congress. His email is evillanueva@congreso.gob.pe.

    If you go to the page mentioned above, you will see some pictures/buttons at the top left. Click the one that shows some fingers holding a pen ('Proyectos de ley presentados'/Projects). He apparently introduced 25 pieces of legislation in the First Session in 2001, and 7 during the Second Session.

    During the First Session, he introduced Bill 1609, 'Software Libre' (Free Software). It was sent to two Committees on 7 January 2002: Education, Science, & Technology, and to Consumer Protection and Public Services Regulation.

    He introduced a similar bill in the Second Session, number 2485, 'Use of Free Software by the Public Administration.' As of 12 April 2002, it is in the same Committees as the first bill (1609).

    I would post both Bills here, but a) they are looong, and 2) they are en espanol. So, if you want to read them.....the full text of both Bills are available through Congressman Villanueva Nunez's page.

    Happy babelfishing!

  7. Whilst on the topic... by rediguana · · Score: 3, Informative

    In NZ, we have a law firm taking Microsoft to the commerce commission for issues related to Software Assurance. He has writen a very nice brief outlining many of the issues, and it is well worth a read. Click here to read more. There are links to various letters and news articles covering this issue.

    One big point that the Commerce Commission raised, is that if SA is such a big issue, why aren't bigger companies and countries picking it up?!

  8. Republican, not democratic! by browser_war_pow · · Score: 5, Informative

    The American system is not a democracy. It is a constitutional republic. A democracy, if you attach meaning to terms, is a system of unlimited majority rule; the classic example is ancient Athens. And the symbol of it is the fate of Socrates, who was put to death legally, because the majority didn't like what he was saying, although he had initiated no force and had violated no one's rights.

    Democracy, in short, is a form of collectivism, which denies individual rights: the majority can do whatever it wants with no restrictions. In principle, the democratic government is all-powerful. Democracy is a totalitarian manifestation; it is not a form of freedom....

    The American system is a constitutionally limited republic, restricted to the protectrion of individual rights. In such a system, majority rule is applicable only to lesser details, such as the selection of certain personnel. But the majority has no say over the basic principles governing the government. It has no power to ask for or gain the infringement of individual rights.

    --Leonard Peikfoff

  9. Re:Politician Envy by Turmio · · Score: 4, Informative
    Someone mod this up, Blair really is Bill's little puppy. Just search Google for blair microsoft and read a couple of articles:
  10. Re:WTO or FTAA action by esh · · Score: 3, Informative
    WTO specifically regulates procurement in the public sector, i.e., any purchase by a government which would total more than $130'000. At least that was the sum when I had to go through the procedures in 1999. It might be higher today.


    Private companies are free to buy whatever they want from whoever they want. The WTO rules prohibit governments from imposing unfair restrictions. This is specifically relevant to discrimination between domestic and foreign companies. I am pretty sure that the choice of words in the response letter is meant to address exactly the WTO regulations.

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    -- ESH
  11. Re:I doubt it. by akb · · Score: 3, Informative

    I am not certain that neo-liberal international fora will agree with the Congressman's position. MS will say "we cannot sell to the public sector in Peru w/o having our IP expropriated" and I wouldn't be shocked if a WTO or FTAA tribunal was sympathetic.

    I would be extremely surprised if MS isn't talking to USTR to apply pressure. MS is definitely not shy talking to USTR (think about US pressure on China to stop piracy) or about trying to get other countries laws changed (a la Sri Lanka).

  12. Re:Go Peru! by Abreu · · Score: 3, Informative

    Same here in Mexico, actually the RedEscolar proyect was killed not for lack of support, but because the right wing, pro corporate PAN party came to power. RedEscolar was then replaced by the EMexico initiative, which of course is backed by Microsoft and Intel

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    No sig for the moment.
  13. A short and incomplet history of this law by TrixX · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm part of a similar initiative in Argentina (I'm not Peruvian) which is closely related, so I can tell you the story from here.

    The Argentinian Free Software Law proposal has been around for more than a year now. You can read about it at http://www.grulic.org.ar/proposicion. It was written by a congressman and improved by a bunch of geeks on a mailing list who offered him (idelogical) support.

    At some time in the middle, the Peruvian LUG found about it, liked it, and tried to find a Congressman there to do something similar (in fact, both law proposals are identical). They found Congressman Villanueva Nuñez.

    Our group has contact with the Peruvians, and some people from here have travelled there to offer ideas, and even helped with the writing of this letter (yes, it takes some mistycism about it away but is true: geeks participated in the writing of the letter).

    Hope that feeds your curiosity. You have lots of info at the site i noted above, and at the Peruvian LUG (slashdotted right now).