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austad writes "Wired is running a story about how Aphex Twin has encoded a face into one of his songs. The face is visible when viewing the sound through a spectrograph. This is probably something I wouldn't want to see when coding in a dark room at 3AM. Sorry boys and girls, you have to buy the CD if you want to see it, encoding of the song into a lossy format destroys the image."

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  1. A way to boost sales... by 11thangel · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is one of the ways musicians can boost sales and get more CD's out: include special features in the encoding. This a) doesnt hurt people who just want the music and/or get screwed over by copy protection, b) doesn't force the consumer to buy anything specific (i.e. hardware, or even the CD in the not-as-legal sense of it) and c) adds something cosmetic, pointless, but nonetheless cool.

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    1. Re:A way to boost sales... by KFury · · Score: 3, Flamebait

      c) adds something cosmetic, pointless, but nonetheless cool.

      Doesn't this describe music in its entirety?

    2. Re:A way to boost sales... by Graspee_Leemoor · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yeah, but if you rip to .flac then you don't lose anything, so you could pirate and still see the face. With people using 700MB for a divx movie, sometimes even 1.4Gig, using 250MB for a .flac album is not really very much space...

      graspee

    3. Re:A way to boost sales... by CaseyB · · Score: 3, Informative

      Interesting point, but irrelevant, because that part of the slashdot story is completely false. (Surprise, surprise, I know) The image is almost entirely unaffected by compression.

    4. Re:A way to boost sales... by cpeterso · · Score: 3, Funny

      he really does output the coolest , slickest, textured sounds on the face of the p

      and he really does output the coolest , slickest, textured sounds of his face

    5. Re:A way to boost sales... by Gibbys+Box+of+Trix · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The article states that the EP was released in 1999, and the face hasn't been announced by James or his record company. That hardly sounds like a publicity stunt to me.

      Aphex Twin isn't exactly everyone's cup of tea, I think you either buy this stuff or not, you're not going to be swayed to buy it because you can see a freaky face when you run it through certain software.

      I would, however, recommend Selected Ambient Works 85-92 as a gentler introduction to the man's work.

  2. no it doesn't by Firlefanz · · Score: 4, Informative

    encoding of the song into a lossy format destroys the image."

    I have an mp3 encoded @192kps, using the Nullsoft tiny fullscreen plugin displays the image just fine (its at the last few seconds of the 2nd track of the Windowlicker EP.

    1. Re:no it doesn't by CaseyB · · Score: 3, Informative
      I can confirm this. I tried it out when I first heard the story a month or two ago. It's not a checksum or some other digitally embedded data block, it's simply the spectrograph output. It doesn't change due to compression, it will just gradually degrade. MP3 quality is way more than adaquate.

      A few of his other songs do similar things, with spirals and other designs appearing in the spectrograph. But the windowlicker track contains a digitized image. Very cool.

  3. Good copy protection by sean23007 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Interesting way to get people to buy CDs instead of downloading them... how many people would actually download a song of Britney Spears' if pictures of her came with the songs that you buy? Yeah, the RIAA should just try this...

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  4. aphex twin by tps12 · · Score: 5, Informative
    Man, if ever there was a musician who deserves the geek limelight (geeklight?), it is AFX. Not only does he hack his instruments and work primarily (solely?) with homebrewed samples, but he has a fucking tank.

    Also, his music is amazing.

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  5. inaccuracy... by Xmarksta · · Score: 5, Funny
    Sorry boys and girls, you have to buy the CD if you want to see it, encoding of the song into a lossy format destroys the image.

    The image is not destroyed -- it just morphs into an image of Jack Valenti.

  6. Re:You should spell-check your title lines by PCM2 · · Score: 3, Informative
    It's Stenography.
    No, it isn't.
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  7. But I always see faces... by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is news?

    I always see faces when listing to Aphex Twin if I sit there for long enough... although sometimes it helps to be in the right frame of mind.

    :)

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  8. Led Zep bootleg + Apple III monitor = by John+Harrison · · Score: 4, Interesting
    A vector drawn image of a guitar!

    While in college I rewired my old monitor from an Apple II. I think it was called an Apple III Monitor for some reason. Anyhow, I ran hooked my speaker wires up to the coils that controled the beam in the CRT. This caused it to draw funky patterns. One particular Led Zeppelin track would draw a guitar on the screen.

    Unfortunately the instrument being played was a harmonica. Strange that a harmonica would draw a guitar.

    Nobody would believe me when I told them this, but everyone willing to make a trip up to my room left as a believer.

    I have since written a simple WinAmp plug-in that emulates this effect. The analog way is much more neato though.

  9. Humorous (?) Predictions by Wise+Dragon · · Score: 4, Funny

    Christian Music will have crosses, doves, and christian fish encoded into the signal, which will probably improve the music.

    Gothic music will encode pentagrams, broken crosses, and tributes to Jack Chick, but nobody will notice because it's all screaming anyway.

    Country music will include images of pickup trucks, cowboy hats, and liquor bottles, but since country fans are all hicks, they will never be discovered.

    The RIAA will mandate that all music have encoded into it pictures that won't survive reencoding, but that, when translated to mp3, will crash your computer.

  10. AFX is a fine example.. by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The sad part is that true artists like AFX are pretty much ignored and panned by the lables and the radio stations while crap get's all the airplay.

    Sorry, but AFX has always been much more a musician than the rest of the mot there on pop-radio. Just like Moby,NutralMilk hotel, and the rest of the "underground" they all have more talent in their toenails than every artist that get's big-station radio play.

    And that my friends is exactly why I am proud of my wierd music collection. (I admit..it's wierd... AFX is wierd.. by popular standards...)

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  11. I wrote a tool to hide text in spectrograms by yerricde · · Score: 3, Informative

    I once wrote a program to hide printed text in a spectrogram. The first thing I encoded (after test messages such as Hello World) was efdtt from David Touretzky's Gallery of CSS Descramblers.

    the program

    efdtt on top of music from Tet*is Advance

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  12. Use 64 kbps by yerricde · · Score: 3, Informative

    What ripping quality would preserve the face?

    Steps used in Cool Edit Pro with Fraunhofer plug-in:

    1. Rip CD
    2. Trim to face only (the face looks strange in a linear spectrograph such as the one in Cool Edit)
    3. Convert to Mono
    4. Save as Fraunhofer MP3 at 64 kbps
    5. Open MP3 in Winamp
    6. Turn on Nullsoft Tiny Visualizer and play the MP3. The face is preserved, but unfortunately, Winamp's spectral display is linear too.

    Anybody have a good link to a spectrograph program that uses a logarithmic frequency axis?


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    1. Re:Use 64 kbps by JesseL · · Score: 3, Informative

      This probably won't do you a lot of good since you seem to be running windows, but, Extace Waveform Display (came with RedHat 7.2) does have an option for using a logarithmic frequency axis.

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  13. It's not steganography by rhizome · · Score: 4, Informative

    Steganography is encoding something in another medium so as not to alter the carrier medium, like a watermark. What Aphex Twin did was to use a piece of software that converts graphics to sound (x, y, z = time, frequency, and intensity/volume) via an Inverse Fast-Fourier Transform. There is no encoding involved, the picture *is* the sound that you hear. Big difference.

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  14. wow. by jon_c · · Score: 3, Interesting

    That is very cool, i'm impressed. The output looks like something an old dot matrix would have made. Am i right in looking at it that the text is made up like that, where each 'row' is a sin wave at some frequency?

    -Jon

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