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Contrails Affect Weather

TheSync writes "Wired News has a story about how contrails may influence the weather. The grounding of commercial flight operations after the 9/11 attack gave scientists a unique opportunity to compare weather with and without contrail-producing flight operations. Day/night temperature differences rose 3 degrees Celsius in some areas."

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  1. Duplicate article? by questionlp · · Score: 2, Informative

    This is a duplicate article... the first one was posted earlier today, here.

    1. Re:Duplicate article? by Kris_J · · Score: 2

      Do duplicate stories ever get deleted if they're noticed quickly?

    2. Re:Duplicate article? by excesspwr · · Score: 2, Funny

      No and neither do duplicate posts.

      (Watch as I am modded down as redundant)

  2. RTFA by Elias+Israel · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yes, it's the ever-present /. cliche. The summary appears to have been written without reference to the underlying article.

    This statement:

    Day/night temperature differences rose 3 degrees Celsius in some areas...

    is completely backwards

    From the article

    A team of climatologists presented their work Tuesday, showing that temperatures in the United States fluctuated by 1.2 degrees Celsius more when airplanes were grounded than when normal flight patterns prevailed. That is, planes in the sky dampen the variability between day and nighttime temperatures. More air travel, the researchers suggest, brings less meteorological difference between noon and midnight.

    Now, whether this is a good thing or a bad thing can certainly be debated, and I expect the very next post in this topic to come from some hopelessly silly GreenPeace activist admonishing us all to stop flying in planes and start hugging dolphins.

    But at least let's start the discussion by actually reading the article first.

    1. Re:RTFA by Lars+T. · · Score: 2

      So what is supposed to be your point? The statement is not "completely backwards", it does infact summarize (part of) the article.

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  3. the interesting part is... by jnana · · Score: 2
    ... that another researcher tracked (using satellite images) how contrails of military aircraft (the only aircraft flying for those three days) grew from the width of an airplane wing "in a matter of hours into cloud banks that covered 20,000 square kilometers." It hardly seems possible for that to happen in a matter of hours.

    After reading this, I wish I'd have thought to look up at the skies back then and pay more attention to the weather, though I guess we all had more important concerns.

  4. hunh by tps12 · · Score: 2

    It seems like everything affects the weather these days. Time to go burn some leaves.

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  5. Well, great, I Say! by aozilla · · Score: 3, Funny

    Because that should really decrease the load on the butterflies.

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    1. Re:Well, great, I Say! by aozilla · · Score: 2

      I liked the story better the first time around.

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  6. Come on editors by n-baxley · · Score: 2, Informative

    Can you guys not use your own search engine before posting an article. Hell, all of my original submissions have been rejected, maybe I should try a duplicate story!

    1. Re:Come on editors by aozilla · · Score: 2

      Just put a warning whenever there's an overlap in the "related links" box.

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  7. Re:Experiment control by linuxbert · · Score: 2

    they had a control, temperature data dateing back 100 years or so. the weather service keeps track of all the temps for a day on record, so what theses guys are saying, is that there seemed to be greater change in those days, then the average on recent record.

    i am curious though, there was a lot of dust and stuff kicked up when the towers went down, how did that affect weather paterns in the area?

  8. This is a first! by Kwil · · Score: 2

    That is, the first time I've ever seen a duplicate article while the other one is still on the front page.

    There's only one article's separation between the two for goodness sakes.

    I really, sincerely, honestly hope that VA is not actually *paying* michael or timothy for this level of editorial attention.

    Some might suggest that doing so goes against VA's fiduciary duties.

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