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MS Cites National Security to Justify Closed Source
guacamolefoo writes: "It was recently reported in eWeek that "A senior Microsoft Corp. executive told a federal court last week that sharing information with competitors could damage national security and even threaten the U.S. war effort in Afghanistan. He later acknowledged that some Microsoft code was so flawed it could not be safely disclosed."
(Emphasis added.) The follow up from Microsoft is even better: As a result of the flaws, Microsoft has asked the court to allow a "national security" carve-out from the requirement that any code or API's be made public. Microsoft has therefore taken the position that their code is so bad that it must kept secret to keep people from being killed by it. Windows - the Pinto of the 21st century."
War is always the best excuse. One of my favorite cartoons on this is Mark Fiore's, at http://markfiore.com/animation/excuse.html. :)
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"Uhh, the judge is acting pissed. Did you see the way she looked at us when she said 'Obey the court'?"
"Yeah, how can we BS her on this?"
"Uhh, maybe we can find a link to terrorism?"
"YEA! That's it! We can't comply, because of National Security"
Harmph....
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The Pinto was never as dangerous as M$ products.
Well, at least I hope it doesn't. A comment like this from a Microsoft bigwig doesn't sound encouraging... Mid-air GPF anyone? *ouch*
The problem here is that M$ is proprietary, and won't release their code. Therefore, government agencies cannot verify such claims of bad code. Also, one must agree not to disclose bugs in M$ software or face prosecution. In the end, the governmetn shuld do what the gov't of Chile has done, and require the use of free (...of proprietary code, etc.) software in all gov't operations.
But, I agree... I'd love to see the gov't return MS stuff and REQUIRE working code. Watch M$ reply with a RedHat CD.
Mmmmmm... Bold, yet refreshing!
What if Terrorist Destroy Microsoft, (e.g. Crash a 747 into Microsoft, or develop worm to destroy Microsoft source code)? What will happen then?
For reasons of National of Security, all of Microsoft code should be made open source! At the very mininum Microsoft should hand over all of it to the NSA or some other agency of the US government to ensure that the code is available in after an attack against Microsoft.
Washington
(NAPI)- John Ashcruft today warned that al-Qaida terrorists have infiltrated several "Learning Tree" facilities over the past few months and have obtained illicit "MCSE" certificates. "With the imtimate knowledge they now have, no one who runs the Windows Operating System is safe" quavered Professor M. Druel of the University of North Dakota at Hoople. "Given the flaws we were warned of, why didn't we listen to that guy back during the trail?" Linux users (and other users of the soon-to-be banned "open-source" software) spent the days chuckling.
Don't anthropomorphize computers, they don't like it.
If all this should have a reason, we would be the last to know.
Worrying isn't it?
I figure if Microsoft code was handling anything important, we'd be dead already. The concept adds a whole new meaning to BSOD.
Some people have a way with words, and some people, um, thingy.
- reverse gravity
- send the tightly-controlled, stable market into a state of chaos
- put thousands of people out of work (how could MS pay its employees if they gave their products away?)
- bring back Elvis (in the form of MP3s distributed by the masses who were previously restricted by MS DRM)
- cause the judge's personal computer to automatically download pornography every day
Didn't we see this in Ghostbusters?> When in doubt, raise concerns about terrorism, or inappropriately use 9/11 as a crutch. The new coin of Washington (both east and west it seems).
It's not just the USA. Want to wage war on a neighbor or on members of your own population? Just go ahead, and call it "War on Terrorism (tm)" if anyone expresses outrage over it.
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
After supporting MS's statements that all source should be closed and hidden in order to maintain national security, the US government has agreed to hide all tall buildings. All tall buildings will now be covered with large black clothes. In order to maintain national security, anyone caught talking about these buildings will be arresting. Since terrorists will be unable to clearly see and hear about these buildings, they will no longer be able to attack them. Thank you and good night.
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They can name it something like 'Patch Lola Patch.'
I don't want knowledge. I want certainty. - Law, David Bowie
Microsoft's view:
If the software has security flaws, then the code and APIs cannot be made public.
Open source view:
If the code and APIs are made public, then the software does not have security flaws.
So, Microsoft, we are finally in agreement, yes?
To-do List: Receive telemarketing call during a tornado warning. Check.
"Microsoft has invested substantial time and resources in providing great interoperability between .Net and older technologies," Allchin said. "Sun's strategy of promoting '100 percent pure' Java applications discourages interoperability."
So, according to Microsoft, it is better to have one company provide (ie control) the degree of interoperability between systems than to have another company promote a single standard for the whole industry to use and share.
I can't imagine that line of thinking going over very well with military officials used to building redundancy into everything.
You might also paraphase the above statements as follows:
"Microsoft has choosen to ignore freely available and already established standards and instead has wasted substantial time and resources needlessly reinventing the wheel by developing our own internal standards (that we won't share and that we admit are not really very good) so that we can control the degree of interoperability between our proprietary new product, and our former (and soon to be former) competitor's technologies"
"Sun's strategy of creating and sharing a standard that encourages 100% interoperability between all systems discourages interoperability (but only in respect to our systems, because ours are made to be incompatible with the accepted standard that everyone else uses)."
Oh boy, can I please buy your systems for my Army?
My next sig will be ready soon, but friends can beat the rush!
Your Honor, we at Microsoft believe that if we ever revealed the source code for MS Windows, more children would immediately start taking drugs. Husbands would start to beat their wives. Small animals would become uncontrollable, staining many expensive carpets. Certain food-groups would become more perishable. 2nd law of thermodynamics would be repealled. Finally, a giant hole would open up in space time, causing the end of the universe.
Your honor, it is a matter or national security, no international security, no galactic security, that we be allowed to continue our profitable monopoly.
Think she'll buy it?
=brian
The protocol, which is part of Message Queuing, contains a coding mistake that would threaten the security of enterprise systems using it if it were disclosed, Allchin said.
"That's business with
=tkk
Bill Gates - Creationist?!?
This is a particularly absurd claim for application programmer interfaces (APIs) - by definition, APIs are disclosed to other developers, so the only reason to "hide" them is to prevent competition.
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Well, they may have a point though. Thier "hidden" APIs can be a big security risk, such as:
BecomeRootUserWithoutNeedingPassword()
Secretl
DecryptAllFiles
and, of course the one Outlook and Word uses:
MakeProgramsRun90PercentFasterButTurnOffAllSecu
"Your superior intellect is no match for our puny weapons!"
If we had the source code, we might find out the true function of the NSAKey function!
Ouch! The truth hurts!
Unsafe in any configuration
There was a reason why there were pictures of Seattle on those captured PCs that al-Qaeda were using.
It wasn't that they were trying to make bioweapons to use on us.
No, they got H1B visas and are coding in Redmond as we speak!
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--- Will in Seattle - What are you doing to fight the War?
Actually, there is no one called Allchin at Microsoft. Allchin is a descriptive term for All Chin, Jabba the Hutt.
Even though he also works for George Lucas, All Chin has a long history of eating cute, squeaky animals for Microsoft, too. For example, in the December 12, 1994 edition of Computer Reseller News, page 269, column 1, fourth paragraph, he said that a software emulation patch for the Pentium floating point processor bug would not affect performance greatly. This was true, as long as customers didn't use it. If the program they were running used that part of the floating point processor, however, the processing would be far slower.
Now he's telling us that war is a good reason for us to let Microsoft do what it wants to do anyway. To Microsoft, we are all cute, squeaky animals.
One is sort of chunky and ugly, and she won't let you see her naked, and you pretty much know already that you wouldn't really enjoy it if she did. The other has a slim, beautiful body, and when she takes off her clothes and parades it around, all the men ooh and ahh over it. That's the analogy I like to use. Maybe it isn't 100% correct, but that's the impression I get when you've got MS saying "No, no, you don't want to see our source code!" and meanwhile, you've got these open source softwares that are taking it all off, and saying "hey, baby, look at THESE!" Microsoft is NOT sexy. Linux, apache, and all of those wonderful open source projects ARE. But this is just how I see it. I mean, if I was to go on a date with a woman, and she proudly told me that she has an MCSA certification, I'd probably politely nod, but secretly be planning on my escape (maybe run away after telling her I had to use the restroom). On the other hand, if she told me that she had her own php based website, and that her text editor of choice was vim, then I'd be all weak-kneed and googly-eyed, and I'd want her to have my children. But again, that's just me. I don't know how it is for other people. I mean, I may not really UNDERSTAND beautiful women, but I sure like to look at them. So, I don't think there's any action required, as in "let's get rid of Microsoft." I think that it's really just a matter of educating the masses that there's an alternative, and it looks good naked. Or as you might say, it's a lot safer because the code can be (and is) made public without compromising national security.
[Head shots of teenagers against a black background, speaking directly to the camera; somber lighting; penitent tone]
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: I helped murder families in Colombia.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: I just wanted to play Minesweeper.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: I helped kidnap people's dads.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: I just wanted to listen to music with Windows Media Player.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: I helped kids learn how to kill.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: I was just browsing with IE6, you know.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: I helped kill a policeman.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: I was just having fun.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: I helped a bomber get a fake passport.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: Other kids do it.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: I helped kill a judge.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: I helped blow up buildings.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: My computer, my OS.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: It's not like I was hurting anybody else.
Anyone who loves or hates any language, platform, or manufacturer, doesn't know what they're talking about.
"In response to the mass laughter we've been hearing upon admitting this, we'd just like to point out that if you were to release the source to say, Linux, it would have serious security problems too."
Oh wait...
No sig for you.
Except for those of us carrying nova bombs. Eeeyaaah! GPL'ed code! We're doomed!
Jabba is also shown eating ugly, gronchy-sounding froggish thingies, but I don't think that invalidates your thesis. (-:
Got time? Spend some of it coding or testing
... and I need a couple of clones of Britney Spears to keep around the house. If I don't get them, the war effort in Afghanistan may be endangered.
Always keep a sapphire in your mind
If the M$ Code is so dangerous, maybe we can get Surgeon General David Satcher, M.D., Ph.D.
to require warning labels on every box!
"Warning: This product may exhibit serious security flaws and compromise National Security and cause death of US Soldiers fiting terrorism in foreign countries."
>The basic fact of religion is that God has
... 1st person evidence please.
>stated many times that He doesn't want to be
>easily found--hence, no fact should be hard to
>accept for anyone of a religious mind.
prove that "god" "said" this.
i'll accept *.wav's or *.mp3's or *.ogg's
... hi bingo
Wow, that one is easy to handle (there are some harder ones out there -- I know, I've seen them!).
... And the people are not to eat the flesh of unclean animals.
Moses sluffed his Algebra and Zoology classes. So what? It is more than obvious that Moses screwed up from time to time. I imagine the conversation went something like this:
God:
Moses: No unclean animals. Got that. So what is the definition of an unclean animal?
God: Those that chew the cud and have cloven hooves.
Moses Chew cud, cloven hooves. Ok, continue.
God: Now, they must dress...
Later that day...
Moses: And you shall eat only clean animals, which are animals that chew the cud and have cloven hooves.
Belligerent kid at the back of the crowd: Is this going to be on the final?
Moses: Yes.
Kid in the third row: Can you give us some examples?
Moses: Cows, goats, oxen.
Geeky kid: How about the bunny?
Moses: No, the hare doesn't count. It doesn't have cloven hooves, see. Gotta have both.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.