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Death of Decent Australian Broadband

iamplasma writes: "As reported by several Australian newspapers, Optus cable internet services will be switching their standard plan to a 3gb "soft-limit" broadband service (once the limit is passed, the service slows to 28kbps). This is effectively the end of decent broadband in Australia, with Optus being the only major provider to offer a service without a highly restrictive usage cap. This is also the ISP who proudly promoted themselves over their main competitor specifically over the issue of the competitor's 3gb limits."

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  1. Re:Perhaps broadband should charge 'per megabyte'? by bleh-of-the-huns · · Score: 4, Informative
    Perhaps it's time for ISPs to charge per megabyte? There's no such thing as 'unlimited' or 'free'


    This may apply for ISP's outside the US getting service from major backbone providers of which most if not all are based in the US, and are charged by the amount of data they use.

    However inside the US, ISP's pretty much pay flat fees from backbone providers, and in alot of cases, ISPs have peering agreements with each other, so source and destination traffic stays within the respective source and destination networks.

    However once you have to cross the ocean, your being charge by the amount of data (whether undersea lines or satellite). The problem is, the US providers don't bear any of the costs, whether its someone in the US sending data to an ISP outside the US, or that ISP sending data to the US, that ISP bears ALL the costs

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  2. Prices by Ambush · · Score: 4, Informative
    Here's the new pricing plans;

    1. 550Mb/Month $AU64.95

    2. 3Gb/Month $AU79.95

    3. 5Gb/Month $AU164.95

    4. 10Gb/Month $AU305.95

    The average user, according to Optus, uses around 65Mb per day (or almost 2Gb/Month). The 3Gb plan could therefore be construed as offering 50% more than the current average usage.

    For comparison, the plan I am currently on is $AU74.95/Month (incl GST) for up to ten times the average monthly usage, or 19.5Gb.

    So, time to start hunting for alternatives. Oh, and ways to monitor my usage.

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  3. Does anybody know... by ocbwilg · · Score: 3, Informative

    Does anybody know the difference between GB and Gb? Here's a hint...one is bit and the other is byte. If the article is posted correctly then it would seem that they have capped their users at a total of 384 megabytes of downstream per month, not even enough to download a single Linux ISO. Why is it that I get the impression that they're actually talking about gigabytes instead of gigabits, even though the original poster and the Slashdot editor can't tell the difference?

    Maybe they could get a job at NASA converting meters to yards.

  4. Re:Perhaps broadband should charge 'per megabyte'? by newt · · Score: 4, Informative
    In the US, T1's are used by businesses; In Australia, most businesses use ISDN (yes, 128kbits/sec), or if they need a "fast" connection they'll usually pick one of the Telstra "DDS Fastway" offerings (leased-lines provided as a managed end-to-end data service at committed datarates between 64kbps and 2 Mbps). There's an increasing amount of ADSL used for business connections too.

    In the wholesale marketplace, ISPs have tended to use Telstra Megalink for 2 Mbps services (basically E1 on G.703), but that's increasingly being replaced by 100 Mbps Ethernet as next-generation carriers lay more fibre around the place.

    Yes, you'd be right in thinking that all these connectivity options are very Telstra-centric. They're the monopology carrier in our, ahem, "competitive" telecommunications marketplace. It sucks, but it's one of the industry conditions which we just have to cope with, and it's one of the single largest reasons for the high cents/Mbyte figure you see quoted by retail ISPs in Australia. Just to give you some starting points, a Telstra Megalink in the 6km distance band costs $3000 to install and $800 per month to run. 64k on ISDN costs about $400 per month (if you've told Telstra which number you'll be dialling in advance - if you dial any other number, it's about $1800 per month in the local call charging band).

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    Network Engineer, Internode

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  5. Re:Perhaps broadband should charge 'per megabyte'? by Thornae · · Score: 3, Informative

    Mark is modestly neglecting to mention that the company he works for is at the forefront of the fight to get a better deal from Tel$tra, and is one of the good guys. Internode (the company in question) do provide adsl, but like everyone else, they have to rent their bandwidth from Tel$tra, who charges them stupidly high prices to discourage competition. Yes, this is illegal, and the local Competion watchdog have taken Tel$tra to task for this. Unfortunately, this hasn't really changed things much.

    (Unabashed praise from satisfied user follows...) Unlike a lot of ISPs, Internode has a high percentage of geeks at most levels of their infrastructure, and do their best to provide for all users, not just the average (how many other ISPs do you know that have a FreeBSD section on their support pages?). The management of Internode also are quick to respond to online concerns - f'rinstance, there was a concern raised over their adsl Terms of Use a while back on an Australian tech site. Internode's manager responded personally, and the offending section was revised within hours of the initial news posting.

    When I eventually decide I really do need adsl, I know who I'll be going through...

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