A First Look at Netscape 7

David_Bloom writes: "PC-WORLD has released an article giving a rundown of the just-released Preview Release 1 of Netscape 7. An especially interesting feature in this new version is tabbed browsing, which allows you to have multiple web pages open at once in one window, which you can view using a tab-based MDI."

Comments

Re:so is it still the mozilla base?

[crow]

This is based on Mozilla 1.0 Release Candidate 2, so it's pretty current.

Opera?

[Demon-Xanth]

Opera's had MDI browsing for quite some time. I still don't know why IE doesn't. It keeps all those popups under control.

Re:Opera?

[ncc74656]

Can it get rid of those stupid animations that show up on top of the page you are trying to read?

If you're talking about stuff like text that follows the cursor around, I'm not aware of anything available for any browser that will shut those off...except maybe a .44 Magnum fired at the idiots who create such abhorrences. (That'll only keep more of them from being created, though.)

Why Mozilla is better than Netscape...

[Anonymous Coward]

Pop-up blocking. It's not in Netscape 7.0PR1. The other script blocking options are, though, so it was a very concious decision. However, for Joe Homeuser, Netscape is nice in that they bundle Java and Flash and some other junk that may starting off with Netscape easier. Mozilla is still for the technically advanced (Slashdot?) crowd. Netscape is for the home user who doesn't care, as long as it works. Now, how long until IE7? We all know a higher version means better!

Download netscape 7, preview release 1

[Aanallein]

Although the main netscape site doesn't yet show this, Netscape 7 PR1 can be downloaded from netscape.com already.

And although the option for disabling popups has disappeared from Netscape's preferences, so as not to harm AOL's revenues too much, adding this line to your user.js (create the file if necessary) will get you the same functionality:
user_pref("dom.disable_open_during_load", true);

Re:Download netscape 7, preview release 1

[soboroff]

Some other useful customizations can be found at http://www.mozilla.org/unix/customizing.html

For example, this is also good vs popups:
user_pref("dom.disable_open_click_delay", 1000);

Re:Download netscape 7, preview release 1

[Tim Macinta]

And although the option for disabling popups has disappeared from Netscape's preferences, so as not to harm AOL's revenues too much, adding this line to your user.js...

Even better, download this preferences toolbar. It will add a toolbar that lets you enable/disable unrequested (onLoad, etc) pop-ups without going through the maze of menus in Mozilla or without editing your prefs.js file in Netscape (which requires you to restart the browser, I would assume). It's very handy when you come across sites where you actually want to allow unrequested pop-ups (I use some sites where onLoad pop-ups are unfortunately part of the necessary UI, which I why I find this so useful). It also lets you easily toggle many other preferences like Java, JavaScript, cookies, and more. Check it out.

Re:MacOS version X

[Jon Abbott]

While it is a native OS X application in the most basic sense of the word, it does not yet use the Aqua interface. For this functionality, check out the Chimera browser.

Re:Ctrl-Tab Analogue in Mozilla's Tabbed Browsing?

[skuenzli]

Try Ctrl+PgUp and Ctrl+PgDn. You can find other shortcuts here:
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/ui/accessibility/m ozkeylist.html

Of special interest (to me) are:
Ctrl+T - New tab with focus in location entry box
Ctrl+W - Close Tab

Regards,
Stephen

Re:MDI?

[SCHecklerX]

I'm a dumbass today (so I am posting AC). What the hell is a "tab-based MDI"? Thanks I will take your answer, offline. Thanks!>

MDI is that absolutely horrid UI that first became popular in windoze 3.1 where you have a single application window with several child windows inside it, each with its own size and position containing a single document.

Tabbed-browsing is 'mdi' done right. You have a single main window, easily controlled, but can have several documents open within it at once, using a slim tab bar at the top.

MathML works

[nms99]

MathML is part of the preview release, although Netscape seems pretty quiet about it. It wasn't mentioned in the PC World article either. I tried it out on the Mozilla MathML torture test and it works fine. The only negative is that you need to separately load some math fonts ... at least on unix.

Undoubtably MathML support is there because it is in Mozilla. Between Mozilla, Netscape, and IE (with MathPlayer), all of the major browsers will support MathML. That together with support from math programs such as Mathematica, it really looks like MathML will finally become real this year.

There's a conference on MathML at the end of June this year. Leslie Lamport (LaTeX fame) and Roger Sidje (who did the MathML support in Mozilla) are among the invited speakers.

Re:me too?

[RedX]

The most popular is Netcaptor, which I've used exclusively for my IE browsing the past few years. It's no longer free, but they do offer a 30-day trial. Netcaptor also has some pretty effective ad and pop-up filtering included.

Another one I've tried is Crazy Browser , which is very similar to Netcaptor but is free. I've also found that it's buggier than Netcaptor. Crazy Browser also offers ad and pop-up filtering.

Re:Optional

[mkoenecke]

In Mozilla, Ctrl-Page Up Ctrl-Page Down switch between tabs. Ctrl-Left and Ctrl-Right are reserved for something else on cross-platform applications, IIRC.

Re:How many critical bugs remain?

[guanxi]

Maybe you know this, but to educate anyone else reading this thread, many (most?) reports in Bugzilla aren't bugs and those that are bugs are unlikely to affect you.

Many (most?) reports are,
o duplicates of already reported bugs
o reports of symptoms of already reported bugs (for example, sharing profiles between Moz and Netscape causes many different problems, all of which are reported over and over).
o reports of problems that either have nothing to do with Mozilla or are unique events (i.e. nobody else can duplicate the problem).
o reports of bugs already fixed (the reporter is using old versions of Mozilla)
o requests for enhancements to Mozilla

Even if it is a real bug, it probably won't affect you:
- Do you use the platform affected by the bug?
- If it's a compatiblity problem (e.g. Netscape profiles), do you use the incompatible software?
- Are you using those particular Mozilla features, in that particular combination?
- Are you trying to load websites affected by that bug?

Anyway, you get the idea.