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A First Look at Netscape 7
David_Bloom writes: "PC-WORLD has released an article giving a rundown of the just-released Preview Release 1 of Netscape 7. An especially interesting feature in this new version is tabbed browsing, which allows you to have multiple web pages open at once in one window, which you can view using a tab-based MDI."
This is based on Mozilla 1.0 Release Candidate 2, so it's pretty current.
Opera's had MDI browsing for quite some time. I still don't know why IE doesn't. It keeps all those popups under control.
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Pop-up blocking. It's not in Netscape 7.0PR1. The other script blocking options are, though, so it was a very concious decision. However, for Joe Homeuser, Netscape is nice in that they bundle Java and Flash and some other junk that may starting off with Netscape easier. Mozilla is still for the technically advanced (Slashdot?) crowd. Netscape is for the home user who doesn't care, as long as it works. Now, how long until IE7? We all know a higher version means better!
Although the main netscape site doesn't yet show this, Netscape 7 PR1 can be downloaded from netscape.com already.
And although the option for disabling popups has disappeared from Netscape's preferences, so as not to harm AOL's revenues too much, adding this line to your user.js (create the file if necessary) will get you the same functionality:
user_pref("dom.disable_open_during_load", true);
I've used the rudimentary predecessor to tabbed browsing (Open Link in New Window...) for a while, and I loved that it helps me preserve my stream-of-consciousness while scanning the news.
I'd hoped tabbed browsing would spare me the memory overhead of having all those windows open, but it doesn't have a crucial feature; hotkey cycling through tabs.
After I open a bunch of interesting stories in new windows on Slashdot, for example, I can Ctrl-Tab between windows according to the whims of my rampant ADD.
Alt-Tab between programs, Ctrl-Tab between documents seems to be a pretty accepted convention in the Win32 environment.
Am I missing an undocumented keyboard shortcut here?
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But what I really want to know, is if AOL will ever wake the heck up and integrate AIM and ICQ. This may not seem relevant, but from the CNet article: Now I understand why AOL might not want to integrate with MSN, Yahoo, and the like. But they control both the software development and infrastructure for both AIM and ICQ. Is it simply due to lack of effort that they won't integrate the two? (A little off-topic yes, but since NS7 is/will be just Mozilla 1.0, the parent not really all that interesting news-wise.)
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While it is a native OS X application in the most basic sense of the word, it does not yet use the Aqua interface. For this functionality, check out the Chimera browser.
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Am I dunk, or haven't I been using tabbed browsing in Mozilla now since version .5? ..
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Drunk or not, you need the spellchecker in Mozilla 7.
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Less a result of object oriented programming, I would hazard, and more component oriented API. MS COM objects, though hellish beasts of complexity themselves, mitigate and abstract user application complexity. The COM model is in mild competition with the markup model of XUL and XPCOM seen in Mozilla/Netscape, which makes for an interseting debacle, philosophically if not just technically.
Well, the cynic in me says that's the reason. IE isn't a browser made for users. It is a browser made for web designers and businesses. If IE would do a lot to control popups, it would annoy content providers that rely on that kind of advertising. Wouldn't be good... :-)
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AOL didn't buy netscape purely because Mozilla is a great product, they bought it because the Netscape name has a huge amount of recognition.
So yeah, Mozilla's better... but who's heard of it? Not joe-sheep user.
Check out Chimera, a native MacOS X frontend for gecko: http://chimera.mozdev.org/.
It IS Cocoa, and it looks like a Cocoa app should. It's not perfect, but it definately gives OmniWeb a run for its money.
Internet Explorer has had Ctrl-Enter add a "http://www." before whatever's in the address bar and a ".com" after it.
Now, I know that's not always what you want to do, but it is often enough that it's an extremely useful shortcut key (and one that (along with the google bar) is keeping me from changing over to Mozilla on a permanent basis).
Is there a reason Mozilla can't do it?
You can find a XUL-Plugin for mozilla here.
I haven't tried it with NS7 jet, but it works nice with mozilla.
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MDI is that absolutely horrid UI that first became popular in windoze 3.1 where you have a single application window with several child windows inside it, each with its own size and position containing a single document.
Tabbed-browsing is 'mdi' done right. You have a single main window, easily controlled, but can have several documents open within it at once, using a slim tab bar at the top.
Is there a reason you need an old version of Flash installed? Flash 6 works OK for me, but it took some persuasion. Macromedia didn't want to provide the correct download link, but you should be able to download and install the Flash 6 installer from this link. You should also make sure that npswf32.dll is in your Mozilla plugin directory when the install is complete.
Windows Media plays inside Mozilla with no problems if you use this plugin. There are three files that you'll need to copy from %systemroot%\system32 (IIRC) into the Mozilla plugin directory: npdsplay.dll, npwmsdrm.dll, and npdrmv2.dll.
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MDI stands for "Multiple Document Interface" - a single program presenting two or more documents at the same time. You can do it with tabs, split-screen, multiple windows, ...
The idea has been around for ages (emacs, for instance). The MDI initialism appeared in the late 80's courtesy of the late IBM/Microsoft GUI alliance.
But of course I want to refute the individual lies and misinformation too, just because you are an insufferable moron:
AOL isn't going to be stupid enough to try foisting a noticeably slower browser on their users
Mozilla RC2 pops up from a cold start (hasn't been run before) in about 4 seconds on my machine. IE takes -- guess what? -- about 4 seconds from a cold start too. And that's not using Quickstart, which would've boosted Mozilla's performance.
People are used to IE, most sites were designed with it in mind
I'm sure you mean that "web pages won't render unless you use IE." That's pure BS. I always install Mozilla or derivatives (e.g., Netscape) for machines I support and not once has a page failed to render. Oh wait, by "most sites" you must mean MSN.
nothing can change the fact that, when it comes to the simple activity of browsing, the MS product gives a smoother user experience.
What the blazing hell does "smoother" mean? Both Opera and Mozilla provide what is clearly a superior browsing experience. Maybe by "smoother" you mean "more apt to get hacked by a malicious script" or "capable of having your bookmarks, start menu, desktop, and registry tampered with by web sites with questionable motives."
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Undoubtably MathML support is there because it is in Mozilla. Between Mozilla, Netscape, and IE (with MathPlayer), all of the major browsers will support MathML. That together with support from math programs such as Mathematica, it really looks like MathML will finally become real this year.
There's a conference on MathML at the end of June this year. Leslie Lamport (LaTeX fame) and Roger Sidje (who did the MathML support in Mozilla) are among the invited speakers.
Well, Mozilla has been doing it for some time now. Not that this is a big surprise. Guess where most of NS7 code comes from ?
Galeon (which I use) also has tab browsing.
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Another one I've tried is Crazy Browser , which is very similar to Netcaptor but is free. I've also found that it's buggier than Netcaptor. Crazy Browser also offers ad and pop-up filtering.
In Mozilla, Ctrl-Page Up Ctrl-Page Down switch between tabs. Ctrl-Left and Ctrl-Right are reserved for something else on cross-platform applications, IIRC.
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Just configure your internet search to use google, type stuff in your URL bar, and tab to the 'search google for ...' in the drop down list.
Maybe you know this, but to educate anyone else reading this thread, many (most?) reports in Bugzilla aren't bugs and those that are bugs are unlikely to affect you.
Many (most?) reports are,
o duplicates of already reported bugs
o reports of symptoms of already reported bugs (for example, sharing profiles between Moz and Netscape causes many different problems, all of which are reported over and over).
o reports of problems that either have nothing to do with Mozilla or are unique events (i.e. nobody else can duplicate the problem).
o reports of bugs already fixed (the reporter is using old versions of Mozilla)
o requests for enhancements to Mozilla
Even if it is a real bug, it probably won't affect you:
- Do you use the platform affected by the bug?
- If it's a compatiblity problem (e.g. Netscape profiles), do you use the incompatible software?
- Are you using those particular Mozilla features, in that particular combination?
- Are you trying to load websites affected by that bug?
Anyway, you get the idea.