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Resurrecting NEAR

JoeRobe writes "Space.com is reporting that John Hopkins researchers are going to attempt to revive the NEAR-Shoemaker spacecraft at the end of the year. The spacecraft, designed to orbit asteroid Eros, finished its mission by successfully landing on the surface of the asteroid in February 2001, resting on its body and two solar panels. Now, after NEAR has been silent and cold for over a year, researchers are going to try to make contact with it and possibly try to turn on its scientific instruments one last time . How long can silent electronics last in space?"

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  1. How long can silent electronics last in space?" by phunhippy · · Score: 3, Funny

    How long can silent electronics last in space?"

    If there is no one there to listen to it, is it really silent? Ahhhhhh

    1. Re:How long can silent electronics last in space?" by Floyd+Turbo · · Score: 4, Funny

      "In space, no one can hear your electronics."

  2. How Long? by cybrpnk2 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How long can electronics last in space? NASA contacted the Pioneer 6 spacecraft after 35 years in space. An even more interesting question is how long LIFE can last in space. The Surveyor III camera brought back from the moon by Apollo 12 had bacteria in it from where somebody had coughed on it. Commenting on this, astronaut Pete Conrad (who died recently in a motorbike accident) said, "I always thought the most significant thing we found on the whole goddamn Moon was that little bacteria who came back and lived and nobody ever said shit about it..."

    1. Re:How Long? by Cally · · Score: 5, Interesting
      I became strangely obsessed with that whole incident a year or so back. I ended up grovelling through various NASA archives trying to find the pics (which of course I've lost the URIs for... so now guess I just HAVE to go back to the Project Apollo site and look for them again ;)

      what fascinated me was that they'd landed an Apollo mission close enough to the old Surveyor to go looking for, and find, it. Of course the Surveyor didn't do take a Pathfinder like "picture of me on the moon" (not having a rover to take it with), so the two pics I found are I think the only ones of a robotic craft that's completed it's mission and gone to sleep. I can't really articulate why this fascinates me -- it's something like the reason divers explore shipwrecks. An historical artefact washed up on the shores of time (maaaan...) er, or something.

      Anyway, I found the pics; warning, these are the hi-res images. to see the thumbnails go to http://www.apolloarchive.com/apollo_gallery.html
      hit the Apollo 12 link, search for "surv".

      Middle distance shot
      closeup view
      Closeup of landing pad

      Pete Conrad and Surveyor
      Alan Bean and Surveyor

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  3. Original newsfile by Kajakske · · Score: 3, Informative

    The /. article of the NEAR touchdown can be found here.

  4. Thermal Control by Detritus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Keeping all of the sensitive bits of a satellite within a reasonable temperature range is tricky. You have electronics modules producing heat that must be radiated into space. The exterior of the spacecraft has to cope with the temperature extremes of sunlight and shade. You don't want the batteries to freeze. Some parts of the spacecraft might be damaged if they are allowed to get too cold.

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  5. Re:unreal $$ by Detritus · · Score: 3, Informative

    They have to schedule time on the DSN (Deep Space Network) to communicate with the spacecraft. Time on a global satellite tracking network is not cheap. There are probably additional costs for people and support services.

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  6. Hard limit. by Stoutlimb · · Score: 4, Informative

    There is a hard limit... Since theoretically almost every atom does decay eventually, an electronic object can sit in space until enough of it's constituent atoms decay away to break the electrical connections. Then it's broken. This limit is generally much longer than the age of the universe so far.

    Then there is chemical/mechanical stability. Some compounds do degrade over time, such as plastics. Plastic parts become brittle, crumble, or otherwise age. Batteries and RTG's degrade or wear out. The same goes for moving parts. The time for this to happen is much less than atomic stability of the actual device. If cheap parts are used, even ten years is easily possible, sometimes much less. Chemical degredation is heavily dependant on the temperature of the object in question. It would also more affect the support systems of the electronics worse than the electronics itself. Batteries, fuel cells, electrical shielding for moving parts such as gyros, for example.

    Since empty space is not really empty, we also have degradation due to interaction with the spacecraft's environment. Micrometeorites abrade the suface of the craft, but larger ones behave like bullets, and these can definately cause harm to electronics inside. Then there is the radiative environment. Cosmic rays, or other exotic forms of radiation can be really nasty to electronics. At the least, they can cause random noise in running electronics, and say, flip 1's into 0's or vice versa every now and then. The much harder rays can permanently damage or fuse microcircuits. As any overclocker knows, simple heat kills electronics very nicely, so objects closer to the sun may have much shorter lifespans. Radio wave radiation from solar storms, if intense enough, can have the same effect on electronics as a highly statically charged cat rubbing against my motherboard when I took off the case.. (you don't wanna know.) There's a fair amount of redundancy in space based electronics for this reason, but there is a limit to how much abuse these systems can bear. Engineers can't insure against every eventuality, such as ET cats.

    In my opinion, the practical limit of a spacecraft is balanced between chemical/mechanical degradation, and environmental hazards. I feel that right now, mechanical degradation is much worse than environmental effects, but as durable solid state devices become more prevalent, this will tip the scale in the other direction. I'd be interested to see statistical information on the reason satellites fail.

    Bork!

  7. Re:And why did it go silent ? by AndroidCat · · Score: 3, Funny
    Did the Viking Mars probes ever die, or did they just pull the funding for listening? Who know what data might have been recorded.

    "Hello? Hello! Stupid 3rd-planeters!" seismic event, seismic event. "Stupid POS!", decreasing after-shocks...

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