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Extreme Cooling

hakkikt writes "Icrontic brings us a review about a CPU-cooling device every self-respecting overclocker and cpu-speed freak must get. The device is called MX-EVA3. With a price of US$500, it's not for the faint of wallet, but the performance is awesome."

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  1. Overclocking cost? by neksys · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why pay $500 for a cooling device when the next-step high mHz CPU can be purchased for less than that? I mean, the appeal of overclocking is that it allows people to extend their hardware far beyond the intended lifetimes. So say you've got an Intel 900, and with this device, you can overclock it to 1.4 gHz. So what have you gained? An unstable, extremely expensive CPU. The equivalient "real" 1.4 ghz chip could have been purchased for less than the cooling device.

    And nevermind those, "I have my Celeron 300 running at 2.3 gigahertz!" folks. CPU speed is so overrated - remember, fast RAM, and lots of it, is the best thing you can do to increase system performance. Don't fall victim to the overclocking madness - spend that $500 on a gig of RAM.

    1. Re:Overclocking cost? by Gaccm · · Score: 5, Insightful

      1) spend $500 on a gig of RAM

      I never use more than 256megs of ram, so buying more ram wont help.

      2) Its not all about cpu speed.

      You are completely right, thats why, if you read the site and looked at the screenies, the guy overclocked his System Bus (thus affecting ram and all) to 181Mhz (from a default 133). THAT IS A LOT. That is a very noticable speed difference.

      3) use the money for something else

      call this an investment. If this thing lasts for 3 computers, then you have probably "saved" more money by not having to pay for permium speed. Your example was having a 900mhz and going to 1.4ghz. Thats pretty sweet, but what about going from 2ghz to 3.4ghz. 3.4ghz is beyond any chip in production right now, but i've seen shots from a person who has been able to get that speed. This device isn't for people with a p3 900, it is for the extreme people and for them the benefits outweigh the costs.

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    2. Re:Overclocking cost? by binaryDigit · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually something like this is for the person who just purchased the latest/greatest/fastest thing out there, and now they want more. They want the fastest Athlon out there bar none. When a faster one comes out, out goes the old "slow" chip and in goes the new one. "Look ma, a 3GHZ Athlon".

      One other thing to consider is that with something with such massive cooling capacity, and the fact that it uses templates to attach to the cpu, you have a fairly future proof cooling solution. Even the 64bit monster that AMD is coming out with should be effectively cooled by this thing, assuming you can get it to fit on the cpu.

    3. Re:Overclocking cost? by (outer-limits) · · Score: 3, Funny

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  2. as listed on amazon.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    other customers who bought this item also bought:

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    pet rock (polished granite): $14.95
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  3. $500 may not be too much for a cooling system by Sancho · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Most people would be out of their minds to pay $500 for a fan/heatsink, but $500 for a cooling system may not be out of line. I don't know just how much cooling the CPU would bring down the total system temp.. probably by quite a bit.

    The reason for this is that there are some cases/places where the ambient temperature may be too high for a computer with a normal fan.

    For example, Texas, in the summer, when the AC goes out (or if there is no AC to begin with.)

    Most people would just say, "Hey, turn off the computer then." That doesn't work if you're away :)

  4. It's not about cost-effectiveness by SKYY · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That device is not marketed for your average user--it's aimed at the people who make overclocking CPUs and hardware their hobby. Sure, you might mock the stamp collector or the model train builder for spending thousands of dollars a year on things you would consider 'crap', but do they care? No. So what if the stamp collector spends $300 on a mint-condition stamp from the year 1917--it's to support HIS hobby, for HIS enjoyment, not yours. All the same--so what if the overclocker who buys a $130 Pentium 4 1.6A and a $500 phase-change cooling box (still a bit overpriced for a R-134a compressor, IMHO)? For him, that $500 is well-spent if it lets him clock his 1.6 GHz chip to 2.8 GHz. He doesn't care what the person who is content running a PII 400 MHz chip thinks.

  5. Re:wow... by mosch · · Score: 3, Funny
    winning the fastest desktop in the world competition is like winning the 'most luxurious kia' award.

    the funniest part is that most O/C'd systems have drive subsystems that are far from top-of-the-line, and overall system performance would be helped more by fixing that part of the system.

  6. Direct links and a quote by vrmlguy · · Score: 4, Informative
    The cooler...
    ...being installed...
    ...and attached to the CPU.

    Good things

    As you can see the MX-EVA3 can take care of some very high heat load. It is by far the best extreme cooling solution on the market today. I've used all sorts of cooling to get to the top and I was under the impression that my 220 pelt and chilled water cooler was bringing my chip to its limits. I was wrong.

    With the MX-EVA3 you can eliminate the use of pelts, extra power supplies and water. Now you use just one simple evaporator hook up.

    It also is pretty good for space. It fits under your case so all you're doing is adding about 9 inches to the height of your case. As far as the noise level it is very tolerable for any Xtreme Overclocker. This can only be written up as a good thing.

    Bad things

    I'll start with the instructions. They are very good for condensation proofing but that's about it. There are no instructions for adjusting the Digital Display as far as setting the boot temperature or setting what ever it is you can set with the 4 buttons on the Digital Display. This would be nice to know.

    They have no recommendation on moving your 4 AMD CPU tabs which in my opinion is a critical must.

    Mounting is a bit tough but if you take your time you can get it right. It's always a scary moment when it comes to risking frying your CPU. I'm sure the Intel 478 mounting may be a lot easier.

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  7. Re:Slashdotted already? by micahjd · · Score: 3, Funny
    It's probably an advertisement... In a few hours they'll come back online, and print something along the lines of "we wouldn't have gotten slashdotted if we were overclocking our Pentium 75 to 8gHz using this new cooler!"

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  8. Re:hey! by Sj0 · · Score: 3, Offtopic

    listen, i'm extremely drunk right now. why aren't you? it's fucking friday night, for fuck's sake. why the hell aren't you at a club?!?!

    I could ask you the same; getting drunk in your room alone isn't cool!

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  9. Re:hey! by great+throwdini · · Score: 3, Funny

    what's wrong with hitting the bottle alone, though?!

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  10. scary by Graspee_Leemoor · · Score: 4, Funny

    It would have been better to call it the MX-EVA2 (Asuka's) , since the EVA3 is the black one that goes a bit mental and strange.

    graspee

  11. Central Cooling? by new500 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    . . .

    At work, people I know are more interested in the water cooling scene, hoping one day for quieter machines. . .

    But now, with an external *piped* cooling device on the market, we're just waiting for the advent of building facility CPU cooling ducts, just like the air - con.

    Yup, rent new office, bring in desk, plug CPU into cooling duct (obviously with your case and machine coming standard with a nice clean bit of plumbing), connect cat5 (or fiber, come on this is an _ideal_ office :) and go . . .

    Final thought, is there any reliability gain to be had from using such a cooler and _not_ overclocking? Okay, I could probably answer that one if I tried, but it's breakfast time and I'm hungry . . .

  12. Re:LOL by garglblaster · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Well, for $500 you can get a decent refrigerator (that has more cooling power)

    Simply put the whole of the PC inside!

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